The Space Between

Bevan Pfeiffer
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In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Johnson Chong. Shamanic practitioner, author, and transformational guide, for a profound exploration of what it really means to wake up. Together, they navigate the terrain where ancient wisdom meets modern psychology, asking what it takes to live, heal, and grow in a time of deep collective change. Johnson opens up about his journey from a traditional upbringing to becoming a bridge between worlds, weaving together shamanic traditions, yogic insight, and therapeutic practice. The conversation touches the heart of consciousness itself: how we create meaning, the role of ritual in integrating experience, and the transformative potential of altered states, whether reached through ceremony, breath, or daily devotion. This dialogue is less about answers and more about remembering, the body as teacher, ancestry as guide, and presence as medicine. Listeners will find practical wisdom for navigating their own path of self-inquiry, from the challenges of letting go to the courage of coming home to who we truly are. If you’re drawn to the intersections of science, spirituality, and self-discovery, this episode offers both grounded insight and luminous perspective. For more on Bevan’s therapeutic work, visit www.theembodiedmind.com.au. To learn about Johnson’s retreats and teachings, visit www.johnsonchong.com.

  1. 6D AGO

    Postpartum Advocate: Jenna Kline - On Surrendering Your Plans, Trusting Your Body, and Redefining Success as a New Mom

    Jenna Kline is a postpartum advocate reshaping how we talk about motherhood. In this conversation, Jenna reveals the transformation nobody warns you about—how becoming a mother requires a death of your old self, and why fighting that death is what makes postpartum so hard. She shares her experience of a 70-hour labor that ended in an unplanned C-section, working two weeks postpartum for a client who never asked if her baby survived, and why she wished she'd trusted her instinct to burn it all down. We discuss why maternal instinct is undermined by billion-dollar industries, how co-sleeping became her family's choice despite the shame, and why she stopped caring about getting her body back for the first time in her life.  She explains what fathers need to know about bonding, why exclusively pumping saved her mental health, the unsolicited advice that wounds new mothers, and what people should actually do to support someone postpartum (spoiler: don't ask to hold the baby). This is a masterclass in surrender, trusting yourself when the world profits from your doubt, and finding the most alive version of yourself by letting go of who you thought you needed to be.   Jenna's Instagram: @thesaltairmama   Bevan's Offering's: Website: www.theembodiedmind.com.au Instagram: @bevanpfeiffer

    1h 6m

  2. MAR 2

    Somatic Sex & Relationship Coach: James Buckley - Non-Monogamy, Jealousy & The Crisis Of Masculine Identity

    James Buckley is a somatic sex and relationship coach who has spent 17 years navigating non-monogamy, kink, and the messy, complicated terrain of modern masculinity. What does it mean to be a man when you have no male role models? How do you rebuild yourself after your closest friends stage an intervention and force you to confront the worst version of yourself? And why is the manosphere teaching young men that eating p***y makes them submissive? Expect to learn how James went from blacking out for days and drinking mouthwash to five years of sobriety, why jealousy might actually be something to lean into rather than avoid, what Morocco taught him about masculine affection, the difference between envy and jealousy that most people miss, why homo-hysteria is keeping men dangerously isolated, how to have the non-monogamy conversation without making your partner spiral, what happened when James ran a 250-person camping festival for alternative relationships, why the manosphere's version of masculinity is profoundly weak, and much more. This conversation goes deep.   James' Offerings:    Website: https://www.enmaustralia.com.au Instagram : @enm.australia   Bevan's Offerings:    Website: www.theembodiedmind.com.au Instagram: @bevanpfeiffer

    1h 27m

  3. FEB 23

    Holistic Counsellor: Jonathan Symonds- Healing Beyond Logic, Masculine Vulnerability & The Non-Linear Path

    Jonathan Symonds is a holistic counsellor specialising in somatic healing, emotional integration, and helping men reconnect with their bodies after years of living in their heads. What We Discuss: • Why traditional talk therapy kept Jonathan stuck in a "healing loop" for 8 years—and what finally broke the pattern • The moment everything he knew about healing stopped working, and how regression became his greatest teacher • Why men are conditioned to disconnect from their bodies, and the specific practices that helped Jonathan rebuild that connection • How judgment of others reveals what we're afraid to feel in ourselves • The difference between spiritual bypassing and grounded spiritual growth—and why psychedelic insights mean nothing without integration • Why healing isn't linear, and how to navigate the inevitable "backwards" moments without losing trust in the process • The role of meaning-making in trauma: how the stories we tell ourselves keep pain locked in the body • Why men struggle with loneliness later in life, and what emotional literacy actually looks like in practice • How to know when you're avoiding versus when you're genuinely choosing to do nothing • The 1% rule: the smallest embodied action you can take today to reclaim agency in your life • Why transformation requires letting a part of you die—and how to surrender to the unknown without a safety net Follow Jonathan: Instagram: @jonathansymonds Website: www.jonathansymonds.net   Follow Bevan: instagram: @bevanpfeiffer   Website: www.theembodiedmind.com.au

    1h 26m

  4. FEB 2

    Group Therapist: Sara Schreiber - The Mirror Effect, How Groups Heal What Individual Therapy Can't

    What happens when we stop performing for each other and start being real? In this episode, I sit down with Sara, a group therapist who creates spaces where vulnerability becomes contagious in the best possible way—where the very thing that terrifies us, being exposed in front of others, becomes the doorway to profound transformation. We explore what group therapy does that individual therapy cannot, why shame loses its power when spoken aloud to witnesses, and how conflict—when held well becomes connection. Sara shares the unique magic of interpersonal process groups, where there's no curriculum, no theme, just the raw practice of staying present to what's happening inside you as it happens. In this conversation, we discuss: Why healing happens differently when witnessed by many instead of one The neuroscience of being seen by multiple people simultaneously How group therapy acts as a mirror for your interpersonal patterns The agreements that create safety for radical honesty Why the person who activates you most teaches you the most about yourself How social media and technology are reshaping our ability to connect The role of culture, projection, and shame in group dynamics Why conflict is essential for growth (and how to navigate it) The most powerful transformations Sara has witnessed in groups If you've ever wondered what it would be like to drop your mask in a room with strangers and speak the unspeakable, or if you're curious about how we learn to be human together in an age that's forgotten how to connect—this conversation is for you.   Bevan's therapeutic website:  https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   Sara's Links:  Instagram: @groups_in_private_practice Website: www.groupsinprivatepractice.com

    1h 11m

  5. JAN 7

    Spiritual Retreat Creator: Ruby Chapman - On Trust, Grief, and the Courage to Evolve

    Ruby Chapman is a retreat space creator, energy worker, and spiritual guide based in Mudgee, Australia. Ruby has spent years navigating the edges of her comfort zone—from solo pilgrimages through the Andes to building Zensei, her wellness retreat space. In this conversation, we explore trust, presence, grief, shadow work, and what it means to surrender to something beyond our control. Expect to learn how Ruby learned to trust her intuition over her logical mind, what happened during her spiritual awakening in Peru, why solitude is one of the most powerful tools for self-discovery, how to work with your nervous system to stay present, the ancient practice of collective grief ceremonies, why your shadow is just untransmuted light, how to distinguish between surrendering and giving up, the neuroscience behind consciousness and telepathy, why we can't actually multitask, and much more. This conversation goes deep into the uncomfortable truths about spiritual growth, the power of being present, and the courage it takes to keep evolving when you can't see the path ahead   Bevan's Therpautic offerings: https://theembodiedmind.com.au/   Ruby's Retreat Space: https://www.zensiretreat.com.au/

    1h 29m

  6. 12/29/2025

    Self-Worth Psychotherapist: Jackson Goding - Redefining Self-Worth, Masculinity & Healing Shame

    Welcome to The Space Between, where we explore the transformative journey of self-worth, vulnerability, and authentic masculinity. In this episode, clinical psychotherapist Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Jackson Goding for a raw, honest conversation about the hidden stories we tell ourselves, the roots of shame, and the courage it takes to step into the unknown. Discover how early experiences shape our sense of value, why men struggle with emotional expression, and how embracing vulnerability can lead to deeper relationships and true personal growth. Jackson shares his own battles with identity, addiction, and the masks we wear, offering practical insights on boundaries, self-acceptance, and the healing power of community. Whether you’re seeking to break free from old narratives, understand the difference between self-worth and self-esteem, or learn how to set healthy boundaries in love and life, this episode is your guide to thriving in the space between who you are and who you want to become.   Bevan's Therapeutic Website:  https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   Jackson's Therapeutic Website: https://findreasontherapy.com.au/

    54 min

  7. 12/22/2025

    Kink Educator: Sam Gatsby Lim - The Power of Play, Reclaiming the Body, Identity and Intimacy

    What does it mean to truly come home to yourself? In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Sam Gatsby Lim. Kink educator, artist, and advocate for embodied living, to explore the journey from disconnection and people-pleasing to radical self-acceptance and authentic intimacy. Sam shares his story as a child of immigrants navigating trauma, cultural expectations, and the search for safety within his own body. Together, they unpack the tension between societal norms and personal truth, the transformative power of somatic practices, and how kink and play can become profound tools for healing and self-discovery. This conversation dives deep into the nuances of consent, the myths of masculinity, and the importance of creating spaces where vulnerability is not just allowed, but celebrated. Whether you’re queer, straight, or somewhere in between, Sam’s insights invite us all to question the scripts we’ve inherited, embrace our unique desires, and cultivate a more compassionate relationship with ourselves and others. If you’re ready to challenge your assumptions about intimacy, identity, and what it means to be fully alive, this episode is for you.   Bevan Pfeiffer's therapy website: https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   Sam Gatsby Lim's website:  https://www.samgatsbylim.com/

    1h 28m

  8. 12/07/2025

    Breathwork Practitioner: Mark Moon - Breathwork The Hidden Key to Healing, Presence & Transformation

    What if the key to unlocking your deepest vitality, healing old emotional wounds, and transforming the way you live was right under your nose—literally? In this powerful episode, psychotherapist and couples therapist Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with  Mark Moon, a seasoned breathwork practitioner whose journey has taken him from the rigidity of the fitness world to the profound freedom found in conscious connected breathing. Together, they explore why breathwork is far more than a wellness trend. It’s an accessible and science-supported pathway for nervous system regulation, trauma release, and self-inquiry. Bevan and Mark unpack how intentional breathing can help you reconnect to your body’s innate intelligence, shift long-held emotional patterns, and rediscover a sense of grounded vitality. Mark also shares his personal story—how he moved from disconnection and depression into a life filled with presence, energy, and playfulness. His lived experience brings nuance to the conversation as he and Bevan explore the myths, science, and subtle art behind transformational breathwork. You’ll hear practical insights on: The difference between breath techniques and true breathwork journeys Why integration and safety matter more than intensity How conscious breathing builds resilience, emotional clarity, and inner spaciousness Ways to begin or deepen your breathwork practice with intention and care Whether you’re a curious beginner, a committed seeker, or someone skeptical of breathwork’s bold claims, this conversation invites you to slow down, pay attention, and experiment with the most powerful tool you already have: your breath. Tune in to discover why, as Bevan Pfeiffer and Mark Moon teach, the journey inward might just be the most meaningful—and exciting—adventure of your life.   Bevan Pfeiffer's therapy website: https://www.theembodiedmind.com.au/   Mark Moon's website:  https://thexbreath.com.au/

    1h 31m
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In this episode, Bevan Pfeiffer sits down with Johnson Chong. Shamanic practitioner, author, and transformational guide, for a profound exploration of what it really means to wake up. Together, they navigate the terrain where ancient wisdom meets modern psychology, asking what it takes to live, heal, and grow in a time of deep collective change. Johnson opens up about his journey from a traditional upbringing to becoming a bridge between worlds, weaving together shamanic traditions, yogic insight, and therapeutic practice. The conversation touches the heart of consciousness itself: how we create meaning, the role of ritual in integrating experience, and the transformative potential of altered states, whether reached through ceremony, breath, or daily devotion. This dialogue is less about answers and more about remembering, the body as teacher, ancestry as guide, and presence as medicine. Listeners will find practical wisdom for navigating their own path of self-inquiry, from the challenges of letting go to the courage of coming home to who we truly are. If you’re drawn to the intersections of science, spirituality, and self-discovery, this episode offers both grounded insight and luminous perspective. For more on Bevan’s therapeutic work, visit www.theembodiedmind.com.au. To learn about Johnson’s retreats and teachings, visit www.johnsonchong.com.

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  • Creator
    Bevan Pfeiffer
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    15
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Copyright 2025 All rights reserved.
  • Show Website
    The Space Between