100 episodes

Musician/engineer/bartender Allen Epley talks with artists of all walks and at all levels of success about their own unique journeys and jobs they've worked in order to follow their passions. Many successful musicians, actors, filmmakers, composers, and comedians still have side gigs that afford them the ability to create their art for us. Some get to work in their chosen field and some work jobs that are convenient and make that buck. It is this unique hustle that's at the heart of this podcast. How exactly does the sausage get made when there are bills to be paid? And what drives these maniacs to make our desperate lives better with their art when the pay-off often fulfills their hearts but not their bank accounts?

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Musician/engineer/bartender Allen Epley talks with artists of all walks and at all levels of success about their own unique journeys and jobs they've worked in order to follow their passions. Many successful musicians, actors, filmmakers, composers, and comedians still have side gigs that afford them the ability to create their art for us. Some get to work in their chosen field and some work jobs that are convenient and make that buck. It is this unique hustle that's at the heart of this podcast. How exactly does the sausage get made when there are bills to be paid? And what drives these maniacs to make our desperate lives better with their art when the pay-off often fulfills their hearts but not their bank accounts?

    Episode 139 - Sarah Shook

    Episode 139 - Sarah Shook

    The pandemic takes its toll on everyone in different ways and Sarah Shook is not unique in that it yielded a new record, but this music was a new sort of fruit from a fresh vine. Sarah's delivery and metrics have up to now hewed to an 'outlaw country' quilt but these songs stood out from their work with Sarah Shook & The Disarmers. They leaned towards pop, yes, but a spartan and economized version of smart indie rock with melodies that also dovetail their country roots. The result is a new band Mightmare and the accompanying debut album Cruel Liars (Kill Rock Stars) due October 14th '22 with tours to follow. It's been a dusty road for this ex-bartender, atheist, vegan, pansexual and now sober singer/songwriter, but the future is very bright indeed.

    • 52 min
    Episode 138 - Patrick Fabian Revisited

    Episode 138 - Patrick Fabian Revisited

    AE goes back in the vault for a loving reexamination of his conversation on with actor Patrick Fabian (Ep. 37) of Better Call Saul as the high powered attorney Howard Hamlin. We talk about his time and tenure on BCS as that iconic series has just wrapped its final season, in which Patrick's character is central.  There's even more poignancy and relevance in the rearview context of the Covid pandemic looming just after this conversation. Patrick is a rigorously prepared for every audition and for when he walks on the set. He has relentless drive and is relentless about staying ahead of the hustle and to expect disappointment along the way. A thoughtful rap with an absolute pro.

    • 1 hr 14 min
    Episode 137 - Zach Barocas

    Episode 137 - Zach Barocas

    When drummer Zach Barocas began to play with his legendary band Jawbox again in late 2017 to rehearse for some reunion shows, he wasn't sure exactly how that might play out given they hadn't been in the same room together for about 20 years. Turns out, it went so well they're still playing shows now and in fact will be playing Riot Fest in September 2022. Zach has been creatively busy with his bands The Up On In, The Bells, and now New Freedom Sounds with some guys like J Robbins, Gordon Withers and Tom Cisneros that makes music that is related to but doesn't live in the same house as standard jazz. It's a very fresh take on that medium built and arranged by Zach over the pandemic months, at the same time that he and his wife have opened a boutique stationary shop in Brooklyn called Measure Twice that has become a...calling card for Zach. 

    • 1 hr 34 min
    Episode 136 - AE REFLECTS (ON BIRTHDAYS AND COLLEGE-BOUND KIDS)

    Episode 136 - AE REFLECTS (ON BIRTHDAYS AND COLLEGE-BOUND KIDS)

    Our handsome host Allen Epley goes guestless for this episode to take time to reflect and wax on the state of his state of mind. It is the eve of his 54th birthday and the week before his twins fly the coop for college and leave their parents alone at home at once, both elated and broken; free at last or utterly rudderless. Raising kids is a dangerous business; to love someone so much with the knowledge that if all goes right, they will leave you in 18 or so years and break your heart. Turning 54 is an achievement also considering the life spent making music and what it has taken to make ends meet and still make quality music for long periods of time and create relationships across the globe, not to mention with the guys in your band. It's these revelations that are pondered and given thanks and gratitude for, and for the listeners of this therapy session masquerading as a podcast. 

    • 36 min
    Episode 135 - Ian Prince

    Episode 135 - Ian Prince

    Drummer Ian Prince couldn't have predicted that at this time in his life he'd be making music again with the same two men who he really needed time away from in 2004 when Houston had been on the road for long stretches. After Houston's implosion, he formed Story of the Sea with his brother Adam Prince to make several albums of high level song craftsmanship, he played with Minneapolis' Porcupine, Soul Asylum and famously also BirdHands. But it's Houston that made such a profound impact on their fans with their brand of post pre indie prog shoe staring. Not only have they been making new music and indeed a new album to boot(!) they've also been enjoying reentering each others lives again to embrace the thing they do the best. 

    • 54 min
    Episode 134 - Terence Hannum

    Episode 134 - Terence Hannum

    Terrance Hannum, synth-ist and keyboardist in his darkly beautiful drone-core band Locrian, doesn't set out everyday to be the most creative human on earth, but more often than not, something does indeed get made. Between his job as a professor of 3D Printing and digital fabrication and his life in Locrian, he also manages to write award-winning fiction, pulls haunting images out of his soul for his oil paintings and sculptures of dead flowers, and uses cassette tape to powerful effect of structured minimalism. Locrian has a new record called New Catastrphisms out August 12th (Profound Lore) produced and recorded mostly live by none other than J Robbins (Jawbox/Burning Airlines) to profound results. It continues with their string of celebrated records in a vein of music not unlike the beautifully disturbing and heavily weighted pieces of Hildur Guðnadóttir and the Chernobyl soundtrack. 

    • 1 hr 25 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
89 Ratings

89 Ratings

ConfusedBreakfastPodcast ,

So good

Allen is truly a gem and this is an amazing podcast to listen to. Doesn’t matter who the guest is, it’s always a great conversation. Entertaining must listen!

unlimitedwonder ,

For creatives of any stripe

Epley has gathered a great assortment of artists whose work continues to inspire. The 100+ and counting shows are filled with great conversations where he ably frames their stories with a kind wit and humor that shows such a genuine regard and friendship full of mutual admiration. I’m of the generation who were in their twenties through the 90’s boom and bust of major labels signing these bands I loved and this show has brought me a clearer understanding of what the careers of these bands I so greatly admired were really like and how they continue creating today. Thank you, Allen Epley, and all of your guests for this gift.

- G.R.L.

Zachbot@gmail ,

The episode I needed

I’ve loved most episodes of this podcast, the Ken Andrews episode was everything I had always hoped this would be. Relating to jamming for hours and recording everything and then going fishing for gems and inspiration. “If I can’t turn my system on in 30 seconds I record on my phone.” So great. So familiar. I love it big A. Please keep it up. Keep it safe. See you in Birdhands in MPLS

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