Thrive & Decide Guide to Divorce and Beyond

Sarah Thress

Welcome to Thrive and Decide: The Guide to Divorce and Beyond This empowering podcast is created for women navigating the emotional and legal challenges of divorce. Whether you're just beginning the process or rebuilding your life afterward, Thrive and Decide is here to help you feel seen, heard, and supported. Each episode features real stories from courageous women who openly share their divorce journeys—offering hope, healing, and the reminder that you are not alone. You'll also gain access to expert insights and valuable resources, including guidance from divorce coaches, legal professionals, financial advisors, and therapists. Our mission is to help you move through divorce with strength and step confidently into your next chapter.

  1. OCT 17

    The “Do What You’re Supposed To” Plan Went Great, Said No One Ever

    What happens when the “right thing” steals your voice? We sit down with Sam Leeson, who grew up in a small town where reputation came first and casual homophobia kept her hidden. She married a friend because it felt safe on paper, became a parent she adores, and built a career helping others advocate for themselves in birth and early parenting—while feeling unsafe and unheard at home. A panic attack at a school drop-off cracked the facade, linking past trauma to a present she could no longer tolerate. By 2010, Sam chose to leave, come out, and face the grief, doubt, and judgment that followed. Sam explains how honoring her children’s needs—letting them live where they felt safest, even with her ex—became the cornerstone of healing. We explore missteps, estrangement, and repair: the son who went quiet, the conversation in a parked car, and the choice to answer every question with honesty when they were ready. She shares the difference between co‑parenting from control versus respect, and how modeling happiness teaches kids to set their own bar. We also unpack family of origin dynamics: a mother who equated parenting with sacrificing joy, the protection of low contact, and the moment a cancer diagnosis reshaped how Sam wanted to move forward. Boundaries, chosen family, and deliberate forgiveness play leading roles. This conversation is frank about abuse, why survivors don’t “just leave,” and the messy aftermath—financial fear, lonely nights, and the long tunnel toward a brighter life. If you’ve ever felt trapped by expectations or terrified to disappoint people you love, Sam’s story offers a map: choose safety, tell the truth, and let time do its work. Subscribe, share this episode with someone who needs it, and leave a review to help more listeners find stories that make brave choices feel possible. Sam Leeson: Sam is the founder of babyREADY and has spent over 25 years supporting individuals and couples—especially 2SLGBTQIA+ families—on their journey to parenthood. Through education, coaching, and hands-on care, she’s helped thousands navigate fertility, pregnancy, and early parenting with confidence. A trusted voice in the field, Sam has been featured on international podcasts, national radio programs, and in top parenting publications. Her engaging approach empowers clients to feel seen, supported, and more informed than they ever expected. website: www.babyREADY.info Check out her podcast: https://www.babyready.info/becomingpodcast all socials: @babyREADYlgbtq Hi and welcome to Thrive and Decide. I’m your host Sarah Thress. This podcast is intended to help women who are going through a divorce, continplating divorce or have lost a spouse feel seen, heard, understood and not alone. All the beautiful souls who share on here are coming from a place of vulnerability and a common belief that sharing your story will help others. You will also hear from industry experts on what to do and not do while going through a divorce. Sarah Thress 614-893-5885 Sarahthressrealtor@gmail.com Thrive and Decide Facebook https://www.instagram.com/thrive_and_decide/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559936633799 https://www.facebook.com/SarahThressRealtor/ https://www.instagram.com/sarah_thress_realtor/ Real Estate Podcast Come To Find Out: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/come-to-find-out/id1704949604 Real Estate First Time Home Buyers course: https://sarahthress.graphy.com/

    48 min
  2. OCT 8

    Marriage Crisis Management: When “I Think I Want Out” Becomes a Plan

    When someone says “I think I want out,” most couples are shoved into panic, not a plan. We sat down with Dr. Becky Whetstone—marriage crisis manager, author of I Think I Want Out, and long‑time advocate for evidence‑based help on the brink—to unpack what actually works when a relationship feels like it’s collapsing in real time. Becky explains the missing piece in traditional training, why so many therapists go quiet at the worst moment, and how to guide a couple through the most volatile ninety days without making things worse. We explore her cornerstone idea of the “decider” and the “leaning‑in partner,” and why stabilization is the first intervention. You’ll learn how to choose a directive, credentialed professional who will name patterns, teach skills, and spot underlying mental health issues that can shape every decision. We get real about faith‑based counseling, the difference between licensed care and well‑meaning coaching, and the damage done by shaming or simplistic advice. From there, Becky maps two structured paths: a time‑bound, therapist‑guided separation that tests real change, or a clear route to an amicable divorce that protects kids, finances, and dignity. We also dig into the everyday forces that push couples apart—parenthood’s chaos, identity shifts, deferred dreams—and how to rebuild connection with practical, teachable skills. Becky shares resources for co‑parenting, blending families, and keeping communication sane, plus why support groups and short, intentional “wallow” windows can speed healing. If you’re contemplating a breakup, fighting to repair, or helping a friend through the fog, this conversation offers a calm, smart roadmap for making the next right move. If this episode helped you think or breathe easier, follow the show, share it with someone who needs it, and leave a review—your feedback keeps these conversations going. Dr. Becky Whetstone's Info: Website | https://marriagecrisismanager.com/ Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/relationshipcrisismanager/ X | https://x.com/DoctorBecky Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/doctorbecky/ LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/becky-whetstone-ph-d-33866211/ Medium | https://medium.com/@doctorbecky Hi and welcome to Thrive and Decide. I’m your host Sarah Thress. This podcast is intended to help women who are going through a divorce, continplating divorce or have lost a spouse feel seen, heard, understood and not alone. All the beautiful souls who share on here are coming from a place of vulnerability and a common belief that sharing your story will help others. You will also hear from industry experts on what to do and not do while going through a divorce. Sarah Thress 614-893-5885 Sarahthressrealtor@gmail.com Thrive and Decide Facebook https://www.instagram.com/thrive_and_decide/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559936633799 https://www.facebook.com/SarahThressRealtor/ https://www.instagram.com/sarah_thress_realtor/ Real Estate Podcast Come To Find Out: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/come-to-find-out/id1704949604 Real Estate First Time Home Buyers course: https://sarahthress.graphy.com/

    53 min
  3. SEP 23

    Navigating Divorce: Legal Insights for a Fresh Start

    Feeling trapped in an unhappy marriage because you don't understand your finances? You're not alone. Many women stay in challenging relationships simply because they can't see a clear path forward financially. In this powerful crossover episode from "Come to Find Out," host Sarah Tress interviews divorce attorney Ashley Garrison about the crucial first steps women should take when considering or facing divorce. Ashley reveals what happens during that initial consultation with a divorce attorney and how it creates a foundation for moving forward. She shares insider tips that can dramatically improve your position before legal proceedings begin, including keeping a detailed journal documenting specific incidents related to finances or children. This simple practice of separating emotions from facts gives your legal team stronger evidence to present in court. Ashley also emphasizes the importance of educating yourself about your financial situation—understanding bank accounts, investments, and tax returns puts you in control of your future. When children are involved, divorce requires even more care. Ashley and Sarah discuss their shared philosophy of keeping children out of parental conflicts and making decisions based on what truly benefits them rather than using them as pawns. This "high road" approach not only protects your children emotionally but strengthens your position in court. Ashley also explains why comparing your situation to friends' divorce outcomes can be misleading, as each case depends on specific facts and varies by county in Ohio. Her personal connection to family law, stemming from her own family's experiences with divorce, drives her passion for helping clients transform from financial uncertainty to independence. Ready to take the first step toward clarity in your divorce journey? Connect with attorney Ashley Garrison or explore the Thrive and Decide program for comprehensive support during this challenging transition. Remember, understanding your options is the first step toward reclaiming your power. Ashley Garrison ashley@aacolpa.com 614-565-7508 Hi and welcome to Thrive and Decide. I’m your host Sarah Thress. This podcast is intended to help women who are going through a divorce, continplating divorce or have lost a spouse feel seen, heard, understood and not alone. All the beautiful souls who share on here are coming from a place of vulnerability and a common belief that sharing your story will help others. You will also hear from industry experts on what to do and not do while going through a divorce. Sarah Thress 614-893-5885 Sarahthressrealtor@gmail.com Thrive and Decide Facebook https://www.instagram.com/thrive_and_decide/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559936633799 https://www.facebook.com/SarahThressRealtor/ https://www.instagram.com/sarah_thress_realtor/ Real Estate Podcast Come To Find Out: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/come-to-find-out/id1704949604 Real Estate First Time Home Buyers course: https://sarahthress.graphy.com/

    22 min
  4. JUN 4

    Finding Your True Power

    What if the path to transformation wasn't through grinding harder, but through being gentler with yourself? Emily Phillips discovered this truth during her remarkable journey from military veteran to manifestation coach. After 12 years of military service, Emily found herself struggling with self-doubt and a chaotic mind. The tight-knit camaraderie she'd experienced with fellow female service members seemed impossible to replicate in civilian life. "I thought that I was so damaged from the military that I would just be unlovable," she shares with raw honesty. Everything changed when she began exploring meditation and personal development. The simple yet profound practice of sitting with her thoughts revealed how much negative self-talk was driving her decisions. "You don't know how much you actually hate yourself until you sit and think about it," Emily explains. Through consistent meditation and powerful "I am" statements, she gradually transformed her identity and outlook. Perhaps most revolutionary is Emily's approach to physical transformation. After years of heavy lifting and intense workouts, she discovered that gentleness yielded better results. "I can't be hard on my body and gentle on my mind," she realized. This shift toward yoga and listening to her body's needs led to losing 25 pounds while feeling better than ever. Her coaching now helps women envision their ideal selves in vivid detail – not just setting goals but embodying the person who has already achieved them. This conversation challenges the dominant narrative that suffering is necessary for success. Emily's journey proves that meditation, self-compassion, and celebrating small wins creates more sustainable transformation than hustle culture ever could. Connect with Emily for her life-changing daily affirmations and discover how manifestation might be the missing piece in your own journey. To connect with Emily- emily@theuniquebalance.com https://www.instagram.com/meditate.with.emily/ Hi and welcome to Thrive and Decide. I’m your host Sarah Thress. This podcast is intended to help women who are going through a divorce, continplating divorce or have lost a spouse feel seen, heard, understood and not alone. All the beautiful souls who share on here are coming from a place of vulnerability and a common belief that sharing your story will help others. You will also hear from industry experts on what to do and not do while going through a divorce. Sarah Thress 614-893-5885 Sarahthressrealtor@gmail.com Thrive and Decide Facebook https://www.instagram.com/thrive_and_decide/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559936633799 https://www.facebook.com/SarahThressRealtor/ https://www.instagram.com/sarah_thress_realtor/ Real Estate Podcast Come To Find Out: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/come-to-find-out/id1704949604 Real Estate First Time Home Buyers course: https://sarahthress.graphy.com/

    40 min
  5. MAY 23

    Find Your Inner Wisdom and Ditch the Guilt Trip

    Michelle Murphy joins us to share her transformative approach to mental health that goes far beyond traditional talk therapy. As a holistic wellness mental health therapist, Michelle integrates the connections between mind, body, and spirit to help clients elevate their entire life experience, not just address mental health symptoms. The conversation reveals a powerful framework that examines three essential components of wellbeing. The physical aspect invites clients to become attuned to how different foods, movement patterns, and environmental factors impact their energy and mood. Rather than prescribing rigid regimens, Michelle positions her clients as the experts of their own bodies, guiding them to discover what genuinely nourishes them. The mind component builds on traditional therapy by acknowledging past trauma work while focusing forward on strengths and possibilities. Most revolutionary is the spirit component—that witnessing consciousness that helps us recognize when we're caught in unhealthy patterns. Michelle brilliantly deconstructs how many women have internalized harmful beliefs that constant productivity and self-sacrifice are prerequisites for worthiness. "For whatever reason, we've been raised with this idea that if I put pressure and guilt and expectation on myself, I'm somehow going to get more done," she explains. "Does that ever happen? No." By developing awareness of how stress manifests physically—shallow breathing, racing heart, muscle tension—clients learn to pause, question their approach, and make conscious choices aligned with their authentic values rather than external expectations. Whether you're struggling with burnout, navigating a major life transition, or simply seeking a more integrated approach to wellbeing, Michelle's insights offer a refreshing perspective on healing and personal growth. Don't miss her powerful recommendation for establishing personal rituals that create safety during times of chaos and change—even something as simple as a mindful cup of tea can help regulate your nervous system and provide an anchor amid life's unpredictability. Listen now to discover how holistic wellness counseling might be the missing piece in your journey toward true wellbeing. To connect with Michelle: Michelle Murphy, MC, LPC Holistic Wellness Counseling 614.233.1834 www.holisticwellnesscounselor.com @hollisticwellnesscounselor  on instagram  Hi and welcome to Thrive and Decide. I’m your host Sarah Thress. This podcast is intended to help women who are going through a divorce, continplating divorce or have lost a spouse feel seen, heard, understood and not alone. All the beautiful souls who share on here are coming from a place of vulnerability and a common belief that sharing your story will help others. You will also hear from industry experts on what to do and not do while going through a divorce. Sarah Thress 614-893-5885 Sarahthressrealtor@gmail.com Thrive and Decide Facebook https://www.instagram.com/thrive_and_decide/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559936633799 https://www.facebook.com/SarahThressRealtor/ https://www.instagram.com/sarah_thress_realtor/ Real Estate Podcast Come To Find Out: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/come-to-find-out/id1704949604 Real Estate First Time Home Buyers course: https://sarahthress.graphy.com/

    28 min
  6. APR 25

    Breaking Free: A Modern Approach to Divorce

    What if there was a better way to divorce? One that saves money, time, and emotional trauma while ensuring fair outcomes for all involved? In this eye-opening conversation with Terri Austin from Modern Divorce Solutions, we explore collaborative divorce—a structured, legislated approach that's transforming how couples navigate the end of their marriages. Terri pulls back the curtain on this innovative process, explaining how a team of specially-trained professionals—collaborative attorneys, financial neutrals, and family coaches—work together to facilitate amicable agreements outside the courtroom. The financial benefits alone are staggering; while traditional divorces can drain hundreds of thousands in legal fees, collaborative divorce typically costs significantly less while giving couples more control over both process and outcomes. The conversation takes a powerful turn when Terri shares heartbreaking stories of financial mistakes made during divorce. One woman nearly lost her family home unnecessarily because neither she nor her attorney understood she could easily afford to keep it. These costly errors highlight why consulting a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA) before finalizing agreements is crucial—they identify overlooked assets, calculate long-term implications of different settlement options, and ensure decisions are made with complete financial clarity. Most compelling is Terri's passionate explanation of how Modern Divorce Solutions approaches each case. Whether working as a neutral financial expert in collaborative cases, providing basic mediation for agreeable couples, or offering advocacy for individuals in contentious situations, the focus remains on transparency and informed decision-making. "I'm not here to try and get somebody more than they're entitled to," she emphasizes. "I want you to understand what you're entitled to and what your decisions mean for your future." Ready to explore a better approach to divorce? Visit moderndivorcesolutions.com to learn how financial expertise can transform your divorce experience and secure your financial future. Learn more about Collaborative Divorce: https://www.winwindivorce.org/ Hi and welcome to Thrive and Decide. I’m your host Sarah Thress. This podcast is intended to help women who are going through a divorce, continplating divorce or have lost a spouse feel seen, heard, understood and not alone. All the beautiful souls who share on here are coming from a place of vulnerability and a common belief that sharing your story will help others. You will also hear from industry experts on what to do and not do while going through a divorce. Sarah Thress 614-893-5885 Sarahthressrealtor@gmail.com Thrive and Decide Facebook https://www.instagram.com/thrive_and_decide/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559936633799 https://www.facebook.com/SarahThressRealtor/ https://www.instagram.com/sarah_thress_realtor/ Real Estate Podcast Come To Find Out: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/come-to-find-out/id1704949604 Real Estate First Time Home Buyers course: https://sarahthress.graphy.com/

    35 min
  7. APR 10

    Bridging Faith and Spirit: Exploring Oracle Cards and Spirituality

    Have you ever wondered if your spiritual curiosity conflicts with your religious upbringing? This soul-stirring conversation with Kaylee English, oracle card reader and spiritual guide, illuminates the beautiful harmony between traditional faith and modern spiritual practices. Kaylee demystifies oracle card reading, explaining how this intuitive practice differs from tarot and fortune-telling. Unlike the structured format of tarot, oracle cards offer flexible interpretations that serve as present-moment check-ins rather than rigid predictions of the future. The parallels between acknowledging guardian angels in traditional faith and connecting with guidance through oracle readings reveal a shared foundation—both honor the protective energies that surround us. Our dialogue explores how women often lose connection with their authentic selves through marriage, motherhood, and career demands. When we constantly pour from an empty cup, attempting to be everything for everyone else, we deplete our energy and effectiveness. Spiritual practices—whether church-based or alternative—offer pathways back to our core essence. By honoring both our intuitive feminine energy and our action-oriented masculine energy, we find the balance necessary for sustainable fulfillment. The conversation challenges hustle culture's relentless push for productivity, reminding us that rest isn't laziness—it's essential restoration that actually enhances our output. When we silence our intuition to conform to expectations of constant motion, we sacrifice the quality of our work and our wellbeing. Opening our minds to the possibility that seemingly different spiritual approaches can coexist allows us to embrace the full spectrum of our spiritual nature without abandoning our foundational beliefs. Ready to explore your own spiritual journey with curiosity rather than judgment? Listen now and discover how reconnecting with your spiritual self might be exactly what you need to thrive in every aspect of life. Want to connect With Kayleigh: https://www.instagram.com/kayleighenglish89/ Hi and welcome to Thrive and Decide. I’m your host Sarah Thress. This podcast is intended to help women who are going through a divorce, continplating divorce or have lost a spouse feel seen, heard, understood and not alone. All the beautiful souls who share on here are coming from a place of vulnerability and a common belief that sharing your story will help others. You will also hear from industry experts on what to do and not do while going through a divorce. Sarah Thress 614-893-5885 Sarahthressrealtor@gmail.com Thrive and Decide Facebook https://www.instagram.com/thrive_and_decide/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559936633799 https://www.facebook.com/SarahThressRealtor/ https://www.instagram.com/sarah_thress_realtor/ Real Estate Podcast Come To Find Out: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/come-to-find-out/id1704949604 Real Estate First Time Home Buyers course: https://sarahthress.graphy.com/

    27 min
  8. MAR 27

    The Courage to Choose Yourself When Marriage No Longer Serves You

    What happens when your marriage looks perfect from the outside but feels empty on the inside? Katie Fleming bravely shares her journey of walking away from a marriage that wasn't terrible—just terribly unfulfilling. Katie married young at 21, seeking stability after her father left during childhood. Despite creating a picture-perfect family with three children, something vital was missing: genuine connection. "He wasn't a bad dad, he just was there," Katie explains, capturing the quiet devastation of living alongside someone who doesn't truly see you. "We don't hang out, we don't talk, we don't fight, but we don't talk." The conversation explores the unique challenges of ending a marriage without dramatic betrayal or abuse—facing judgment from friends who couldn't understand why anyone would leave such a "good guy." Katie's candid reflection offers validation to anyone questioning whether mere coexistence is enough for a fulfilling life. The story transforms when Katie describes finding true partnership with Ed, now her husband. Their relationship began as genuine friendship before blossoming into something more meaningful. Together they've navigated the complex terrain of blending five children, managing relationships with ex-partners, and creating a unified family during COVID lockdowns. Katie's wisdom shines through when discussing co-parenting dynamics and healing after divorce. She emphasizes the importance of creating boundaries, focusing on the children's wellbeing, and learning to distinguish between battles worth fighting and those better left behind. Most poignantly, Katie reflects on how modeling healthy partnership benefits her children: "Now they're seeing, oh, this is how a boyfriend or girlfriend's supposed to treat me." This episode offers hope and practical guidance for anyone questioning whether more is possible in their relationships and life. Katie's journey reminds us that choosing yourself isn't selfish—it creates space for authentic happiness that ultimately benefits everyone you love. Hi and welcome to Thrive and Decide. I’m your host Sarah Thress. This podcast is intended to help women who are going through a divorce, continplating divorce or have lost a spouse feel seen, heard, understood and not alone. All the beautiful souls who share on here are coming from a place of vulnerability and a common belief that sharing your story will help others. You will also hear from industry experts on what to do and not do while going through a divorce. Sarah Thress 614-893-5885 Sarahthressrealtor@gmail.com Thrive and Decide Facebook https://www.instagram.com/thrive_and_decide/ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559936633799 https://www.facebook.com/SarahThressRealtor/ https://www.instagram.com/sarah_thress_realtor/ Real Estate Podcast Come To Find Out: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/come-to-find-out/id1704949604 Real Estate First Time Home Buyers course: https://sarahthress.graphy.com/

    49 min

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Welcome to Thrive and Decide: The Guide to Divorce and Beyond This empowering podcast is created for women navigating the emotional and legal challenges of divorce. Whether you're just beginning the process or rebuilding your life afterward, Thrive and Decide is here to help you feel seen, heard, and supported. Each episode features real stories from courageous women who openly share their divorce journeys—offering hope, healing, and the reminder that you are not alone. You'll also gain access to expert insights and valuable resources, including guidance from divorce coaches, legal professionals, financial advisors, and therapists. Our mission is to help you move through divorce with strength and step confidently into your next chapter.

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