Transition Drill

Paul Pantani
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Transition Drill Podcast: explores identity, leadership, and life after service through long-form conversations with military veterans, police, fire, and first responders navigating career transition, purpose, and reinvention. Tactical Transition Tips: practical guidance for those preparing for career change, organized by transition timelines The Mindset Debrief: short-form reflections on accountability, discipline, self-leadership, and personal responsibility for people navigating life.

  1. 236. Advice to Help Veterans Succeed in Their Civilian Transition: Marine Corps SgtMaj Ret. Joshua Celis

    8H AGO

    236. Advice to Help Veterans Succeed in Their Civilian Transition: Marine Corps SgtMaj Ret. Joshua Celis

    Joshua Celis, Marine Corps Combat Veteran, in Episode 236 of the Transition Drill Podcast, shares his 23-year career, combat deployments, and transition, where he explains the emotional and practical challenges of stepping away from the uniform, the importance of early preparation, education, and networking, and the reality that senior rank doesn’t automatically translate to civilian success. Josh was raised between Houston and a tiny East Texas town got pulled out of a rough track, found structure through sports, and then chose the Marine Corps when college felt out of reach. From the start, Joshua’s story is about momentum, consequences, and learning the hard way that “I don’t have time” usually means “it’s not my priority.” He talks about early fleet life in communications, including getting shot in the head in while stationed in Hawaii that exposed how differently the military handled injuries back then and what he’d do as a senior leader looking back. From there, his career builds: deployments that came faster after 9/11, a first Iraq deployment in 2005, and then as a sergeant, leading in Afghanistan, advising Afghan Army counterparts while managing the pressure that comes with real responsibility. He also talks about the “yin yang” of recruiting duty in Houston, returning to the operating forces, and how key mentors and leaders shaped the way he led Marines as he moved into senior ranks. The second half of the conversation is all transition. Joshua explains why he started planning earlier than most, how education and certifications changed his options, and why senior leaders often need the most space to detach and reset. He breaks down SkillBridge honestly, including what didn’t work, the stress of rejection, and how networking, making friends, and showing up in person is what finally landed him a role in San Diego with Northrop Grumman. He lays out what he’d do differently, what most people underestimate, and what actually carries you through when the uniform comes off. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com SPONSORS: GRND Collective Get 15% off your purchase Link: https://thegrndcollective.com/ Promo Code: TRANSITION15 Blue Line Roasting Get 10% off your purchase Link: https://bluelineroasting.com Promocode: Transition10 Frontline Optics Get 10% off your purchase Link: https://frontlineoptics.com Promocode: Transition10

    2h 12m
  2. Tactical Transition Tips Round 111: Deciding to Geographically Move or Stay | Veterans and First Responders

    4D AGO

    Tactical Transition Tips Round 111: Deciding to Geographically Move or Stay | Veterans and First Responders

    Tactical Transition Tips Round 111 of the Transition Drill Podcast offers practical guidance and career readiness for veterans and first responders, organized based on how far out your exit is. In this episode, how your attachment to where you live can shape, limit, or expand your civilian opportunities. Some of you are clinging to where you live like it’s oxygen. Some of you are desperate to get out, like the place is on fire. Either way, it’s easy to tell yourself your answer is “just practical.” But geography isn’t neutral. Where you live quietly decides what jobs exist around you, what your income ceiling looks like, who you can realistically network with, what licensing or certification hurdles you’ll face, and how much pressure lands on your spouse and kids if you change the plan. Labor markets aren’t evenly distributed. Opportunities cluster. Some roles flat out don’t exist everywhere. And even when the job exists, the pay might not match the cost of living. This episode is about geographic rigidity in transition. Staying can be a smart foundation. It can also be a comfortable trap. Moving can be liberation. It can also be chaos. The point isn’t “stay” or “go.” The point is whether you’re making a strategic decision, or an emotional one, before you ever submit an application. Transition group tips Close Range Group (less than a year from transition): Research geographic factors before you apply. You’re going to want to blast out applications, but you need real data first, like cost of living, local demand for your skills, and whether your certifications or status transfer to that state. Medium Range Group (a few years from transition): Create optionality before you need it. Build credentials that travel and grow a network in the region you might want, including conferences or training events, so you’re not starting cold later. Long Range Group (a decade or more from transition): Don’t build a life you can’t leave. Keep your footprint light, avoid getting overextended, and protect your ability to say “yes” to an opportunity anywhere so you stay a free agent instead of getting pinned to one place. Get additional resources and join our newsletter via the link in the show notes. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: IG: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com SPONSORS: Frontline Optics Get 10% off your purchase Link: https://frontlineoptics.com Promocode: Transition10 Blue Line Roasting Get 10% off your purchase Link: https://bluelineroasting.com Promocode: Transition10

    21 min
  3. The Mindset Debrief: Who Are You Without Your Role? The Mistake High Performers Don’t See Coming

    5D AGO

    The Mindset Debrief: Who Are You Without Your Role? The Mistake High Performers Don’t See Coming

    This Mindset Debrief episode is a short-form reflection on personal accountability, discipline, and self-leadership for people navigating pressure, responsibility, and growth. In this episode, we focus on: how tying your identity to your performance slowly erodes your sense of self. If you’ve ever wondered who you’d be without your job title, your results, or your reputation as the one who fixes everything, this episode is for you. It starts with a simple pressure test: take away the role, the output, and the constant problem-solving, and see what’s left. A lot of high performers don’t just do the work, they become the work. That’s role engulfment: when one role consumes your entire self-concept and everything else gets pushed aside. The provider. The leader. The rock. The expert. The person who’s always “on.” And when you confuse what you do with who you are, uncertainty starts feeling like failure, not information. This is where the performance trap shows up. If you’re constantly producing, leading, and fixing, it can feel like you’re disappearing the moment you stop. The episode pushes on that fear, and it separates presence from output. People don’t just need results, they need you to actually be there. It also hits the guilt that shows up when you try to rest. When “doing nothing” feels wrong, recovery turns into weakness, and exhaustion starts getting treated like a badge. This episode reframes rest as a requirement for doing the work well, not a reward you earn after the work is done. The thread that ties it together is accountability without control. Own standards and actions, but stop tying identity to outcomes you can’t fully control. The goal isn’t to quit your roles. It’s to stop letting them swallow you. Share this episode with someone who could benefit from the information. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: IG: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com

    13 min
  4. 235. From Air Force Thunderbirds to Entrepreneur: 300 Million Jobs Gone by 2030. Malcolm Copeland

    FEB 16

    235. From Air Force Thunderbirds to Entrepreneur: 300 Million Jobs Gone by 2030. Malcolm Copeland

    Malcolm Copeland, Air Force Veteran, in Episode 235 of the Transition Drill Podcast, his story addresses a reality most veterans face. The military gives you structure, identity, and momentum, but it doesn’t guarantee relevance once you leave. His transition wasn’t about replacing one job with another. It was about reclaiming control and creating his own structure instead of relying on someone else’s. His story is a reminder that transition isn’t a single event at separation. It’s a shift in ownership. Malcolm isn't just an Air Force veteran; he's a master of transition who's navigated the high-stakes world of elite military units and the complex landscape of civilian entrepreneurship. In this episode dive deep into his journey from a curious kid in Long Island to a crew chief for the a famous jet in Hollywood history. Malcolm grew up in West Islip, New York, where he spent his days taking apart electronics just to see how they worked. That engineering mindset was his gift, but his life hit a major crossroads when he lost his father at just 13 years old. This unexpected loss pushed him to grow up fast and find a path that offered adventure and independence, so he enlisted in the Air Force at 17. He didn't just fix planes, he became an elite technician. From working on the block forties in South Korea to maintaining the CV-22 Ospreys that appeared in the first Transformers movie, Malcolm lived the high-tempo life of military maintenance. His career reached a pinnacle when he joined the Thunderbirds. In that world, precision isn't just a goal, it's a requirement. He learned that teamwork and structure can make the impossible happen, like swapping an F-16 engine in half the standard time to ensure a show never gets canceled. But Malcolm's story doesn't end on the flight line. After 14 years of service, he took a unique risk by appearing on the first season of Married at First Sight. While the show wasn't a match, his honesty on screen led him to his soulmate; she was from Germany. He moved overseas, mastered the challenges of a blended family of eventually six children, and finished his engineering degree and MBA. Today, back in the United States with his family, Malcolm's focused on the future of veteran entrepreneurship. He's the founder of Eighth Ascent, where he helps veterans launch business ideas in just 28 days. He's also a leading voice on how AI and automation will impact the workforce. He's helping veterans build businesses that are future-proof, ensuring they keep the purpose and passion they had in uniform. Malcolm’s life proves that with the right azimuth, you can navigate any transition and build a legacy that lasts. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com EPISODE BLOG PAGE AND CONNECT WITH MALCOLM: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com/post/air-force-veteran-malcolm-copeland-on-thunderbirds-and-military-transition-drill-podcast SPONSORS: GRND Collective Get 15% off your purchase Link: https://thegrndcollective.com/ Promo Code: TRANSITION15 Blue Line Roasting Get 10% off your purchase Link: https://bluelineroasting.com Promocode: Transition10 Frontline Optics Get 10% off your purchase Link: https://frontlineoptics.com Promocode: Transition10

    1h 48m
  5. Tactical Transition Tips Round 110: How A Pension Can Lower Ambition and Stall Your Post Service Preparation.

    FEB 12

    Tactical Transition Tips Round 110: How A Pension Can Lower Ambition and Stall Your Post Service Preparation.

    Tactical Transition Tips Round 110 of the Transition Drill Podcast offers practical guidance and career readiness for veterans and first responders, organized based on how far out your exit is. In this episode, learn how a guaranteed paycheck can shift your mindset from building your future to coasting toward it. You’ve earned the right to think about your pension. You’ve put in years most people will never understand, and the idea of a guaranteed check waiting on the other side can feel like proof you did it right. But that same calm can quietly take the edge off your preparation. In this episode, it’s about the trap that shows up in small, normal decisions while you’re still serving: you stop pushing to build civilian skills, you delay the resume, you don’t study the market, and you start thinking, “I only need a little extra income.” It doesn’t feel like avoidance in the moment. It feels like patience. Then the interview comes, and someone asks what value you bring, and you realize you never practiced answering that question outside your current system. This isn’t anti pension. It’s pro strategy. A pension is supposed to reduce catastrophic risk, not replace ambition. It’s a safety net, not a ceiling. Transition tips by group: Close Range Group (less than a year out): Don’t accept a low civilian salary because “you have a pension.” One sentence why: If you start your negotiations low because you feel financially safe, you can lock yourself into a lower earning trajectory for years. Medium Range Group (a few years out): Build your lifestyle on today’s money and invest tomorrow’s. One sentence why: If you mentally spend your pension now and raise your lifestyle early, you lose flexibility, and flexibility is what protects you during transition. Long Range Group (at least a decade away): Treat your pension like the ground floor of your financial building, not the penthouse. One sentence why: You’ve got time to stack income sources and financial skills now, so your pension becomes one piece of your plan, not the whole plan. Get additional resources and join our newsletter via the link in the show notes. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: IG: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com SPONSORS: GRND Collective Get 15% off your purchase Link: https://thegrndcollective.com/ Promo Code: TRANSITION15 Blue Line Roasting Get 10% off your purchase Link: https://bluelineroasting.com Promocode: Transition10 #tacticaltransitiontips #militarytransition #firstresponders

    20 min
  6. The Mindset Debrief: You're Scared to be Uncomfortable and Playing it Safe is Self-Sabotage

    FEB 11

    The Mindset Debrief: You're Scared to be Uncomfortable and Playing it Safe is Self-Sabotage

    This Mindset Debrief episode is a short-form reflection on personal accountability, discipline, and self-leadership for people navigating pressure, responsibility, and growth. In this episode, we focus on: Avoiding discomfort can disguise as being practical, but it holds you back If you keep telling yourself you’re not afraid of discomfort, but you keep saying “now’s not the right time” or “I’ve got to be smart about this,” this episode puts a spotlight on what’s really getting avoided. It’s usually not the work. It’s the feeling that comes with the work: awkwardness, being exposed, looking unprepared, being wrong. You’ll hear how avoiding uncomfortable feelings can feel like control in the moment, but it’s a trade. Short-term emotional relief gets purchased with limited long-term improvement, and the cost shows up later. A line from Amy Morin frames it simply: avoidance offers immediate relief, but it can create long-term consequences. The episode breaks down how avoidance can shrink your world over time. You say no more often. Hesitation gets longer. What starts as “stability” turns into a quieter kind of stuck. It also draws a clean line between recovery and retreat. One helps you move forward. The other just keeps you comfortable. There are concrete places this shows up at work: dodging difficult conversations, staying in roles where you already know the game, and avoiding real feedback. Not encouragement, not validation, but the kind of input that exposes blind spots and tests your confidence. When you stay slightly invisible, you stay static, and static is falling behind in slow motion. It also calls out the cover stories: “practical,” “rational,” “protecting my energy,” “I don’t want the added responsibility.” If you feel defensive when someone questions a “practical” choice, that’s a cue to ask: if discomfort wasn’t part of this, would you still choose the same thing? Share this episode with someone who could benefit from the information. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: IG: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com

    14 min
  7. 234. The Trauma of Combat Loss That Followed an Army Medic Who Planned to be a Doctor. Sergio Alfaro

    FEB 9

    234. The Trauma of Combat Loss That Followed an Army Medic Who Planned to be a Doctor. Sergio Alfaro

    Sergio Alfaro, Army Medic and GWOT veteran, in Episode 234 of the Transition Drill Podcast, his experience highlights the importance of preparing for the mental and emotional side of transition, not just the next job or degree, and building support systems early instead of relying on a single post-service plan. Ultimately, his path reinforces that successful transition preparation requires adaptability, self-awareness, and permission to redefine success when the original mission no longer fits. Sergio talks about Iraq, PTSD, and the long road from wanting to become a doctor to rebuilding a life that actually works. If you’re a veteran or first responder trying to figure out who you are after the job, this one’s for you. Sergio was born in Los Angeles and grew up in Maywood and Burbank, seeing two very different worlds early on. He joined the Army with a long-term plans of becoming a doctor. In the Army, he became a medic, trained and deployed to Iraq in 2003–2004, based in Hamadi, west of Fallujah. He describes the reality of frequent mortar attacks, watching for IED threats, and the kind of moments that never really leave you. He also shares the loss of his commanding officer overseas, and how survivor’s guilt and “why him, not me” thinking followed him home. After one enlistment, that turned into four and a half years because of stop-loss, Sergio struggled with trauma, but was hopeful of getting the option for the Army to send him to college to be a doctor. He wanted to keep serving and also go to school, but he ran into the “ask command” reality of the system, and it changed his outlook on staying in. He got out, determined to chase the goal on his own terms. That drive carries him all the way to acceptance at Harvard Medical School, with the GI Bill and Yellow Ribbon support helping make it possible. But also dealing with PTSD, a medical culture not built for that, and a training path that puts him in a VA inpatient psych ward rotation at the worst possible time. Things spiral, and he shares what it’s like when your identity is tied to one mission and you feel it slipping away. The second half of this conversation is about what actually helped: support systems, weekly check-ins, and eventually getting connected with Wounded Warrior Project’s Warriors to Work, job fairs, resume feedback, and a shift toward a new career path built around what he always loved most, training and teaching others. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com SPONSORS: GRND Collective Get 15% off your purchase Link: https://thegrndcollective.com/ Promo Code: TRANSITION15 Blue Line Roasting Get 10% off your purchase Link: https://bluelineroasting.com Promocode: Transition10 Frontline Optics Get 10% off your purchase Link: https://frontlineoptics.com Promocode: Transition10

    2h 16m
  8. Tactical Transition Tips Round 109: Why Safer Career Choices Can Cost You After the Uniform

    FEB 5

    Tactical Transition Tips Round 109: Why Safer Career Choices Can Cost You After the Uniform

    Tactical Transition Tips Round 109 of the Transition Drill Podcast offers practical guidance and career readiness for veterans and first responders, organized based on how far out your exit is. In this episode, how civilian career decisions that bring immediate relief can quietly limit your options. A lot of people in uniform picture the civilian world as the easier world. Less danger. Less stress. Less intensity. Some of that can be true. But the risk doesn’t disappear when you hang up the uniform. It just changes its disguise. This time it’s about a different kind of risk. The kind that doesn’t show up with sirens or urgency. The kind that shows up later, after you’ve already made the move. It’s the risk of picking what feels familiar instead of what protects your future. It’s the trap of confusing relief with security. It’s the slow cost of delayed consequences, unclear feedback, and workplaces where effort doesn’t always translate into stability the way you’re used to. If you’re planning your transition, this is about learning to spot the new version of “danger” early, so you don’t end up stuck in a role that feels calm but quietly caps your options. Transition-group tips • Close Range Group (transitioning within a year): Chasing Challenge or Easy Tip: Before you commit to your next job, ask yourself if you’re choosing it because it shuts the noise off fast, or because it actually gives you stability and growth. Why it matters: When urgency is running the show, “familiar” can feel safe even when it recreates the same burnout in different camouflage. • Medium Range Group (transitioning in 3 to 5 years): New Game, New Rules Tip: Use your runway to learn how civilian careers actually work, including how decisions are made, how security is built, and how advancement really happens. Why it matters: The danger here isn’t lack of preparation, it’s preparing for the wrong game and getting blindsided by a different reward system. • Long Range Group (transitioning in a decade or more): Build Mobility, Not Attachment Tip: Build skills that travel, relationships outside your organization, and an identity that isn’t dependent on your current role. Why it matters: Complacency is quiet, and the real risk is realizing too late your experience only makes sense inside one system. Get additional resources and join our newsletter via the link in the show notes. CONNECT WITH THE PODCAST: IG: https://www.instagram.com/paulpantani/ WEBSITE: https://www.transitiondrillpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulpantani/ SIGN-UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER: https://transitiondrillpodcast.com/home#about QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS: paul@transitiondrillpodcast.com SPONSORS: GRND Collective Get 15% off your purchase Link: https://thegrndcollective.com/ Promo Code: TRANSITION15 Frontline Optics Get 10% off your purchase Link: https://frontlineoptics.com Promocode: Transition10

    19 min
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Transition Drill Podcast: explores identity, leadership, and life after service through long-form conversations with military veterans, police, fire, and first responders navigating career transition, purpose, and reinvention. Tactical Transition Tips: practical guidance for those preparing for career change, organized by transition timelines The Mindset Debrief: short-form reflections on accountability, discipline, self-leadership, and personal responsibility for people navigating life.

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  • Creator
    Paul Pantani
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
    389
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Paul Pantani
  • Show Website
    Transition Drill

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