Unspoken Words: A Selective Mutism Podcast by Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum

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Selective Mutism is a social communication anxiety disorder that can be incredibly difficult to navigate and often misunderstood. Fortunately, your host, Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum DO, has over 30 years of experience in understanding and treating Selective Mutism. This podcast serves to educate those who are struggling (or those who may know someone who is struggling) and to allow their words to be heard. Listen along for tips, strategies, and everything and anything selective mutism. For all podcast inquiries please contact Dakota Hornak at dhornak@selectivemutismcenter.org

  1. MAY 4

    EP75: Why Your Child Talks at Home But Goes Silent Around Peers w/ Dr. Jenna Blum

    Episode 75 of the Unspoken Words podcast features Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum and Dr. Jenna Blum answering some of the most commonly submitted listener questions received at the SMart Center — covering peer engagement, school transitions, and a topic that doesn't get nearly enough airtime: grief. Dr. E and Dr. Jenna tackle why children with SM can speak freely at home yet go completely silent around peers, break down the critical difference between responding and initiating, and make the case for why facilitation — not waiting — is the most important thing parents and school professionals can do. Through real case examples, they illustrate how pairing children around high-interest activities like chess clubs and baking projects creates the comfort and connection that must come before communication can follow. The second half turns to grief — specifically, how to process the sadness of not having received proper SM treatment as a child, and what it feels like to watch younger generations succeed while carrying the weight of years of ineffective therapy. Dr. E and Dr. Jenna offer clinical perspective and genuine reassurance, and introduce gratitude journaling as a practical tool for shifting focus from deficits to wins. The episode closes with a timely reminder that the end of the school year is the right time to start planning for the next one — from 504 and IEP updates, to summer peer pairings, to building transitions — and why the tone parents bring to that process matters more than they may realize. -- Chapters:  (03:23) Introducing the Initiation Gap and Why Facilitation Can't Wait (08:53) How High-Interest Activities Build the Comfort and Connection That Precedes Communication (18:03) What If My Life Had Been Different? Processing the Grief of a Late or Mismanaged SM Diagnosis (29:54) Why Focusing on Wins — Not Deficits — Is the Key to Lowering Anxiety and Building Momentum (39:47) How to Plan School Transitions, Peer Pairings, and Summer Preparation Before the Window Closes -  ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: https://selectivemutismcenter.org/resources/  Ask Dr. E a question of your own!  Learn more about the host, Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum  Explore our SMart Center success stories!  Get started at the SMart Center  Listen to other Unspoken Words episodes here.  For the best clips from every episode, follow the podcast on Instagram & YouTube  Learn more about our 6-Week Virtual Group Series for children and teens! Learn more about CommuniCamp, our 3+ day intensive group treatment and ALL DAY parent training & support program -  For all podcast inquiries, please contact Dakota Hornak at ⁠dhornak@selectivemutismcenter.org ⁠ This podcast was produced and published by New Edition Productions (neweditionconsulting.com)

    58 min

  2. APR 6

    EP74: Is It SM, Autism, or Both? w/ Dr. Jenna Blum

    Episode 74 of the Unspoken Words podcast features a discussion between Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum and Dr. Jenna Blum, exploring one of the most frequently asked — and misunderstood — questions in the selective mutism community: Is it SM, autism, or both? In the episode, Dr. E and Dr. Jenna break down the core features of each condition and explain why they so often look alike on the surface — while stemming from very different underlying causes. They discuss why the home environment is one of the most important diagnostic clues, how a child's motivation for peer connection can reveal whether anxiety or the social puzzle is driving their shutdown, and why the reason behind the silence matters just as much as the silence itself. They also cover the critical distinction between comfort and skills — why children with SM have innate social know-how that anxiety blocks, while children on the autism spectrum often need those social skills explicitly taught. Additionally, they address masking, restricted interests, echolalia, and the initiation-versus-response dynamic that can look surprisingly different in the autism population. The episode closes with an overview of the SMart Center's evaluation process, including how the SME, ADOS, and ADIR tools work together to bring clarity to complex, overlapping presentations. -- (03:04) Is It SM, Autism, or Both? Introducing the Overlap and Core Features of Each Condition (09:38) The Social Puzzle: How Motivation and Peer Interest Reveal What's Really Driving the Shutdown (19:25) The Passenger in the Car: Why Social Communication Skills Must Be Taught, Not Just Unlocked (28:42) Same Behaviors, Different Reasons: How to Distinguish SM From Autism Across Settings (39:49) Masking, Misdiagnosis, and the Evaluation Process: What a Thorough Assessment Actually Looks Like -- ADDITIONAL RESOURCES: https://selectivemutismcenter.org/resources/  Ask Dr. E a question of your own!  Learn more about the host, Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum  Explore our SMart Center success stories!  Get started at the SMart Center  Listen to other Unspoken Words episodes here.  For the best clips from every episode, follow the podcast on Instagram & YouTube  Share our upcoming Selective Mutism In The School Virtual Conference on April, 10th, 2026, with your child or teen’s school staff. 6.5 CEs/CEUs are available.  Learn more about CommuniCamp, our 3+ day intensive group treatment and ALL DAY parent training & support program -  For all podcast inquiries, please contact Dakota Hornak at ⁠dhornak@selectivemutismcenter.org⁠  This podcast was produced and published by New Edition Productions (neweditionconsulting.com)

    54 min

  3. MAR 23

    EP73: The Three-Letter Formula That Lowers Anxiety & Unlocks Communication w/ Dr. Jenna Blum

    Episode 73 of the Unspoken Words podcast features a discussion between Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum and Dr. Jenna Blum, exploring the PVC model — a practical, anxiety-lowering framework built around three core principles: Preparing, Visuals, and Choice questions. In the episode, Dr. E and Dr. Jenna discuss why deliberate preparation before an exposure matters more than most families realize, and how anticipation anxiety can undermine a child's readiness before they even walk through the door.  They cover how visuals reduce cognitive load in ways verbal preparation alone cannot, why choice questions are a powerful tool for moving a child from responding to initiating, and how silent goals allow parents to set up supportive environments for resistant or overwhelmed children. They also introduce the look-listen-learn approach to understanding what strategies work best for each individual. -- Chapters:  (03:26) What the PVC Model Is and Why Anxiety Makes Communication So Hard (13:19) Why Preparation Before an Exposure Matters More Than the Exposure Itself (25:29) How Visuals Lower Cognitive Load and Why Writing It Down Changes Everything (33:15) Using the Social Communication Bridge to Meet Every Child Where They Are (43:05) Why Choice Questions Are the Key to Moving From Responding to Initiating -  ADDITIONAL RESOURCE: Prepare, Visuals, Choices! A Parent’s Guide to Reducing Anxiety and Boosting Communication for Children with Selective Mutism Ask Dr. E a question of your own!  Learn more about the host, Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum  Explore our SMart Center success stories!  Get started at the SMart Center  Listen to other Unspoken Words episodes here.  For the best clips from every episode, follow the podcast on Instagram & YouTube  Share our upcoming Selective Mutism In The School Virtual Conference on April, 10th, 2026, with your child or teen’s school staff. 6.5 CEs/CEUs are available.  Learn more about CommuniCamp, our 3+ day intensive group treatment and ALL DAY parent training & support program -  For all podcast inquiries, please contact Dakota Hornak at ⁠dhornak@selectivemutismcenter.org⁠  This podcast was produced and published by New Edition Productions (neweditionconsulting.com)

    49 min

  4. FEB 25

    EP72: Understanding the Underlying Causes of Selective Mutism w/ Dr. Jenna Blum

    Episode 72 of the Unspoken Words podcast features Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum and Dr. Jenna Blum exploring why Selective Mutism is so much more than shyness and why comprehensive assessment matters. In the episode, Dr. E and Dr. Jenna discuss how misunderstanding SM as simple shyness leads to missed diagnoses. They explore the distinction between shyness and anxiety-based communication challenges, identify common comorbidities (ADHD, autism, learning disabilities, sensory processing challenges, and speech/language issues), and explain when additional testing is needed. They also cover how to recognize red flags across settings and why understanding each child's underlying "whys" leads to more effective treatment planning. (04:22) Why "Just Get Them Comfortable" Doesn't Work When Treating Selective Mutism (14:21) Recognizing That Selective Mutism Is More Than Shyness (19:35) Selective Mutism Comorbidities You Need to Know About (28:19) The Less Anxious A Mute Child Looks, the More You Need to Dig Deeper (33:16) Assessing and Testing a Selectively Mute Individual - ⁠Ask Dr. E⁠ a question of your own!  ⁠Learn more⁠ about the host, Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum  Explore our⁠ SMart Center success stories⁠!  ⁠Get started⁠ at the SMart Center  Listen to other Unspoken Words episodes⁠ here⁠.  For the best clips from every episode, follow the podcast on⁠ Instagram⁠ &⁠ YouTube⁠  Share our⁠ upcoming Selective Mutism In The School Virtual Conference⁠ on April, 10th, 2026, with your child or teen’s school staff. 6.5 CEs/CEUs are available.  ⁠Learn more about CommuniCamp⁠, our 3+ day intensive group treatment and ALL DAY parent training & support program -  For all podcast inquiries, please contact Dakota Hornak at⁠ ⁠dhornak@selectivemutismcenter.org⁠⁠  This podcast was produced and promoted by⁠ New Edition Consulting⁠ (neweditionconsulting.com)

    47 min

  5. FEB 9

    EP71 (Ask Dr. E): Behavioral challenges, family SM patterns, school separation anxiety, whispering strategies & more

    EP71 of the Unspoken Words podcast features our latest installment of our Ask Dr. E series, where we answer real questions from our listeners. In this episode, Dr. E and Dr. Jenna address five important questions about selective mutism; including behavioral challenges in children who are verbal with peers, whether SM runs in families and how to support multiple children, school separation anxiety and its connection to SM, strategies for progressing beyond whispering, and how to help children who refuse accommodations and show no visible motivation to communicate. Dr. E and Dr. Jenna share evidence-based insights and practical strategies to help parents, educators, and treatment professionals better understand and support individuals navigating selective mutism across different settings and developmental stages. -- Chapters:  (04:11) What are behavioral red flags in children with selective mutism who are verbal with peers? (10:28) Does selective mutism run in families, and how should parents support multiple children with SM? (20:04) Is school separation anxiety related to selective mutism, or is it a normal adjustment process? (31:42) What strategies help children progress beyond whispering to using their full voice? (39:49) How do you help children who refuse accommodations and show no visible motivation to communicate? - Ask Dr. E a question of your own!  Learn more about the host, Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum  Explore our SMart Center success stories!  Get started at the SMart Center  Listen to other Unspoken Words episodes here.  For the best clips from every episode, follow the podcast on Instagram & YouTube  Share our upcoming Selective Mutism In The School Virtual Conference on April, 10th, 2026, with your child or teen’s school staff. 6.5 CEs/CEUs are available.  Learn more about CommuniCamp, our 3+ day intensive group treatment and ALL DAY parent training & support program -  For all podcast inquiries, please contact Dakota Hornak at ⁠dhornak@selectivemutismcenter.org⁠  This podcast was produced and promoted by New Edition Consulting (neweditionconsulting.com)

    54 min

  6. JAN 26

    EP70: Detecting Selective Mutism Early w/ Cara Tyrell

    Episode 70 of the Unspoken Words podcast features a discussion between Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum and Cara Tyrrell, M.Ed., discussing detecting Selective Mutism early and building the foundation for successful intervention through intentional language and collaborative support. In the episode, Dr. E and Cara explore why early detection matters and why many cases of Selective Mutism are missed in young children. They discuss the distinction between shyness and anxiety-based communication challenges, red flags to watch for, and how intentional language builds confidence without pressure. They also cover first steps toward professional evaluation and treatment planning. -- Chapters:  (3:59) Full Body Sensory – Understanding How Anxious Kids Experience the World (7:04) The Four Ages Framework – Why Your Smart Kid Still Can't Handle Social Situations (17:58) Beyond the Label – Why We're Assessing Instead of Understanding (24:44) Tell, Don't Test – How Your Words Shape Anxiety in the Moment (41:13) Connection Over Correction – Building the Foundation for Everything Else -  Ask Dr. E a question of your own!  Learn more about the host, Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum  Explore our SMart Center success stories!  Get started at the SMart Center  Listen to other Unspoken Words episodes here.  For the best clips from every episode, follow the podcast on Instagram & YouTube  Share our upcoming Selective Mutism In The School Virtual Conference on April, 10th, 2026, with your child or teen’s school staff. 6.5 CEs/CEUs are available.  Learn more about CommuniCamp, our 3+ day intensive group treatment and ALL DAY parent training & support program -  For all podcast inquiries, please contact Dakota Hornak at ⁠dhornak@selectivemutismcenter.org⁠  This podcast was produced and published by New Edition Productions (neweditionconsulting.com)

    1h 5m

  7. JAN 12

    EP69: Raising Neurodivergent Children w/ Deborah Reber

    Episode 69 of the Unspoken Words podcast features a discussion between Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum and parenting activist and founder of Tilt Parenting, Debbie Reber, on raising neurodivergent children and the connection between neurodivergence and Selective Mutism.   In the episode, Dr. E and Debbie explore why Selective Mutism is often overlooked in neurodivergent children and how it co-occurs with autism, ADHD, and anxiety disorders. They examine what Selective Mutism looks like across different environments and discuss the unique factors—sensory processing, social fatigue, and executive functioning—that trigger communication anxiety. -- Chapters:  (3:48) Introduction to neurodivergence, definitions, and foundational concepts (11:22)  Understanding underlying reasons, the emotional/sensory experience, diagnosis and identification (20:32) Practical strategies and parenting approaches (32:16) Connection, relationships, emotional regulation, nervous system (39:33) Practical tools, strategies, parental mindset, resources  -  Ask Dr. E a question of your own!  Learn more about the host, Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum  Explore our SMart Center success stories!  Get started at the SMart Center  Listen to other Unspoken Words episodes here.  For the best clips from every episode, follow the podcast on Instagram & YouTube  Share our Selective Mutism In The School Virtual Conference with your child or teen’s school staff. 5.5 CEs/CEUs are available.  Learn more about CommuniCamp, our 3+ day intensive group treatment and ALL DAY parent training & support program -  For all podcast inquiries, please contact Dakota Hornak at ⁠dhornak@selectivemutismcenter.org⁠  This podcast was produced and published by New Edition Productions (neweditionconsulting.com)

    50 min

  8. 12/29/2025

    EP68: Best of 2025

    EP68 of the Unspoken Words podcast features the five most popular chapter cuts from 2025. -- Chapters:  (02:23) VIA EP45 (SHINING STAR) - NICK’S ADVICE TO TEENS STRUGGLING WITH SELECTIVE MUTISM (11:15) VIA EP47 (ASK DR. E) - WHERE SHOULD TREATMENT START FOR A 4-YEAR-OLD W/ SELECTIVE MUTISM? (22:49) VIA EP48 (SHINING STAR) - ALEX’S UNIQUE BUT RELATABLE EXPERIENCE WITH SELECTIVE MUTISM  (27:23) VIA EP51 (ASK DR. E) - HOW TEACHERS CAN HELP STUDENTS WITH SELECTIVE MUTISM (37:35) VIA EP60 (W/ DR. NATALIE WEDER) - RESILIENCE & SELECTIVE MUTISM -  Ask Dr. E a question of your own!  Learn more about the host, Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum  Explore our SMart Center success stories!  Get started at the SMart Center  Listen to other Unspoken Words episodes here.  For the best clips from every episode, follow the podcast on Instagram & YouTube  Share our upcoming Selective Mutism In The School Virtual Conference with your child or teen’s school staff. 5.5 CEs/CEUs are available.  Learn more about CommuniCamp, our 3+ day intensive group treatment and ALL DAY parent training & support program -  For all podcast inquiries, please contact Dakota Hornak at ⁠dhornak@selectivemutismcenter.org⁠  This podcast was produced by New Edition Consulting (neweditionconsulting.com)

    56 min
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Selective Mutism is a social communication anxiety disorder that can be incredibly difficult to navigate and often misunderstood. Fortunately, your host, Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum DO, has over 30 years of experience in understanding and treating Selective Mutism. This podcast serves to educate those who are struggling (or those who may know someone who is struggling) and to allow their words to be heard. Listen along for tips, strategies, and everything and anything selective mutism. For all podcast inquiries please contact Dakota Hornak at dhornak@selectivemutismcenter.org

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