Unveiling Jesus Christ

John Cassinat

This podcast is based on the research, writings, and content created by John E. Cassinat found principally in his two-volume book entitled The Book of Revelation Doctrinal Commentary: Unveiling Jesus Christ. The book focuses on the unveiling of Jesus Christ as seen through the eyes of John the Revelator. The podcast sets forth the views and opinions of theologians and Biblical scholars from many different religions, although the doctrinal views of the apocalypse predominantly align with those found in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. John the Revelator’s symbolism and images are explained with reference to multiple Old Testament books, including Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Joel and Zechariah. Jesus Christ is the major focus of this podcast from the time of his premortal existence through the time of the celestialization of the earth. Within these broad parameters, podcast topics will include a discussion of the creation of spirit bodies in premortality; the premortal conflict between Lucifer (Satan) and Jehovah (Christ) during the grand council in heaven and the war in heaven; Christ’s physical creation of multiple worlds; the mortal ministry of Christ among the Jews and the establishment of his ancient church; the postmortal ministry of Christ’s spirit in paradise after His crucifixion; the post-resurrection ministry of Christ among the Jews on the eastern hemisphere, the Nephites on the western hemisphere and the lost ten tribes of Israel; the ongoing conflicts between Christ and Satan in the earthly kingdoms of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome and the modern nations of the earth; the great apostasy that followed the apostolic period; the restoration of Christ’s latter-day church in preparation for His Second Coming and the resurrection of His saints; and Christ’s millennial reign of peace on the renewed and paradisiacal earth for 1000 years, followed by the final defeat of Satan’s kingdom at the end of the earth. These topics and many more will be discussed in this podcast as the many symbols and apocalyptic images of Saint John the Divine are explained to unveil Jesus Christ.

  1. [§216] John’s Vision of the Two Beasts Compared with Nephi’s Visions

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    [§216] John’s Vision of the Two Beasts Compared with Nephi’s Visions

    This podcast compares the apocalyptic writings of Nephi found in 1 Nephi 13 and 14 in the Book of Mormon with the apocalyptic writings of John found in Revelation 13. 1 Nephi 13 covers the period of time from the death of the apostles no later than 70 AD, until the restoration of the gospel in 1830. John's description of this same period of time can be found in Revelation 13:1-11. John and Nephi both describe Satan's kingdom on earth after 70 AD, which John identifies as the symbolic First Beast, and which Nephi identifies as the great and abominable church. The devil is the foundation for the great and abominable church, which was formed after the apostles died and apostate members of the ancient church introduced false doctrines and false ordinances among church members until the true Church ceased to exist during the period of the great apostasy. Both John and Nephi describe this in Revelation 13 and 1 Nephi 13, respectively. 1 Nephi 14 covers the period of time from the restoration of the gospel in 1830 until the Second Coming. John's description of the same time can be found in Revelation 13:12-18. After 1830, Nephi states that there are only two churches on earth. One is the church of the Lamb which is the only true and living church upon the earth that offers salvation. All other churches are called the church of the devil‒not because all other churches are wholly evil‒but because they take people away from salvation offered in the church of the Lamb. John describes these other churches, including both secular and religious institutions, as a Second Beast that looks like a lamb, but speaks like a dragon. John’s symbolism of the Second Beast in Revelation 13:12 matches perfectly the description of the church of the devil given in 1 Nephi 14:10. Nephi confirms that his apocalyptic visions are the same as those seen by John in the Book of Revelation. However, Nephi was forbidden to write the details of his complimentary vision because John was foreordained to write the vision.

    50 min
  2. [§214] Rev 12:17: The Dragon Makes War on the Woman’s Seed

    12/28/2025

    [§214] Rev 12:17: The Dragon Makes War on the Woman’s Seed

    This podcast explains the symbolism found in Revelation 12:17, which states: “The dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” The historical context and timeframe for this verse is 70 AD, after the Roman Abomination of Desolation destroyed Jerusalem, Herod's Temple, and the Jewish nation as a whole. This violence was symbolically described by John in Revelation 12:15-16. After the violence in 70 AD, verse 17 indicates that the Dragon (Satan) was wroth with the woman who represents the ancient church of Jesus Christ in the meridian of time. Satan was wroth because his efforts to destroy the ancient church physically during the First Jewish War had failed. A remnant of the woman's seed still remained, and he went forth to make war upon that remnant. John tells us specifically that the remnant were those saints after 70 AD that kept the commandments of God and remained firm in their testimony of Jesus Christ. Satan’s war against the Christian remnant after 70 AD included persecution and martyrdom, as well as a growing apostasy from within and among the faithful remnant. The seeds of apostasy were planted among the ancient members of the church, but these seeds of apostasy began to take root and grow in the aftermath of the violence in 70 AD. John's description of Satan's war against the remnant of the church after 70 AD is further evidence that the ancient church was not in a state of apostasy nor was it taken into the wilderness of heaven in Revelation 12:14 as some scholars suggest. The Great Apostasy begins as part of Satan's continuing war against the remnant of the church after 70 AD.

    38 min
  3. [§213] Rev 12:15-16: Flood Water Threatens the Woman in 70 AD

    12/23/2025

    [§213] Rev 12:15-16: Flood Water Threatens the Woman in 70 AD

    This podcast interprets the symbolic language found in Revelation 12:15-16, which states: “And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.” In these verses, the serpent is a symbol for Satan acting through the Roman Empire, which is Satan’s mouthpiece or source of the flood. The flood of water is the violence perpetrated by the Roman Empire on the ancient Christian church represented by the woman. This flood of violence occurred in the 3½ years leading up to the Abomination of Desolation in 70 AD, when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and Herod's Temple. This occurred during the First Jewish War that was ostensibly perpetrated by Rome against the Jews but, according to Revelation 12:15, had the woman (the ancient church of Jesus Christ) as Satan's real target. The violence of the flood in the days of Noah is remarkably descriptive of the violence perpetrated by Rome in 70 AD. To explain the violence of the flood imagery, this podcast explores the meaning of the statement in Genesis 7:11 that the fountains of the great deep were broken up on the day of the flood in Noah's day. This podcast goes back to the first and second days of the physical creation to explain the origin of the fountains of the great deep, which began as a subterranean ocean that formed through the creative processes according to natural laws that have always existed. Before his death, the Savior warned members of his ancient church that the Abomination of Desolation was coming and that they would have to flee Judea and Jerusalem to avoid the violence of the Roman flood. Faithful members of the church heeded this warning and escaped to Pella located on the east side of the Jordan river in Perea. The symbol of the earth helping the woman means that church members, by their own earthly means, were able to avoid the Roman flood. The imagery may suggest that the waters of the Jordan River were "swallowed up" so that the Christians could pass through the Jordan riverbed on dry ground. However, there is nothing in recorded history or tradition to suggest that this occurred.

    53 min
  4. [§212] Rev 12:14: The Church Is Nourished in the Wilderness

    12/21/2025

    [§212] Rev 12:14: The Church Is Nourished in the Wilderness

    This podcast interprets the symbolism found in Revelation 12:14, which states: “To the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.” (Rev 12:14) The context for this verse is the persecution of the Christian church after the death of Jesus Christ and prior to the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem in 70 AD. In this timeframe, members of the ancient church were initially persecuted by the Jews in and around Jerusalem. Revelation 12:14 symbolically describes how the woman representing the earthly church was protected and nourished by the two wings of the Great Eagle. The eagle was an emblem and standard for the Roman empire at that time. Thus, the Roman empire protected the ancient church in the wilderness of the Roman empire beyond Jerusalem, where all religions were generally accepted and tolerated. The woman of the ancient church was protected in the Roman wilderness for a time, times, and half time, representing the symbolic number 3½. In this case, this symbolic number means the 3½ decades from the death of Jesus Christ to the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. During this period of the apostolic era, the ancient church was protected against the serpent who represents Satan, but also the Roman empire as Satan’s earthly agent. Unfortunately, as the end of the apostolic era approached, the Roman Dragon turned on the woman in the time of Nero. After his edicts against Christians in 64 AD, the Roman wilderness ceased to be a place of spiritual refuge. However, even at the time of the Abomination of Desolation in 70 AD, the Christians were protected because they followed the warning of the Savior to flee Judea to Pella in Perea as the Roman armies encircled Jerusalem and ultimately destroyed the city. Many scholars in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints interpret the symbolism in Revelation 12:14, as the Great Apostasy when the ancient earthly church was taken up into heaven. This podcast explains why that interpretation is not correct.

    52 min
  5. [§211] Rev 12:13: Satan Persecutes the Ancient Earthly Church

    12/16/2025

    [§211] Rev 12:13: Satan Persecutes the Ancient Earthly Church

    This podcast explains and interprets Revelation 12:13 which states: “And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.” (Rev 12:13) The Dragon symbolizes Lucifer (Satan) who was cast down to this earth at the time of the physical creation of the earth. However, in this verse, Satan was cast to the earth in the sense that he fell spiritually to defeat at the time of Jesus Christ's crucifixion and successful atonement. Christ’s victory brought Satan down to defeat or low in the dust metaphorically speaking. This verse also indicates that after the crucifixion, Satan persecuted “the woman which brought forth the man child." The woman represents the ancient earthly church of Jesus Christ as of the time of Christ's crucifixion. John previously identified the man child in Revelation 12:5. The reference to the man child in verse 13 alludes back to the premortal birth of the man child in verse 5. The man child is not born in verse 13. He is simply mentioned by John as a point of reference to indicate that the woman representing the ancient church is the same woman John previously saw in premortality as the Church of God. (JST Rev 12:7) The church and kingdom of God in premortality evolved into and became the same church and kingdom of God on earth. The persecution mentioned in verse 13 occurred in the ancient earthly church after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and during the apostolic period that formally ended with the death of the apostles and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.

    53 min

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This podcast is based on the research, writings, and content created by John E. Cassinat found principally in his two-volume book entitled The Book of Revelation Doctrinal Commentary: Unveiling Jesus Christ. The book focuses on the unveiling of Jesus Christ as seen through the eyes of John the Revelator. The podcast sets forth the views and opinions of theologians and Biblical scholars from many different religions, although the doctrinal views of the apocalypse predominantly align with those found in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. John the Revelator’s symbolism and images are explained with reference to multiple Old Testament books, including Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Joel and Zechariah. Jesus Christ is the major focus of this podcast from the time of his premortal existence through the time of the celestialization of the earth. Within these broad parameters, podcast topics will include a discussion of the creation of spirit bodies in premortality; the premortal conflict between Lucifer (Satan) and Jehovah (Christ) during the grand council in heaven and the war in heaven; Christ’s physical creation of multiple worlds; the mortal ministry of Christ among the Jews and the establishment of his ancient church; the postmortal ministry of Christ’s spirit in paradise after His crucifixion; the post-resurrection ministry of Christ among the Jews on the eastern hemisphere, the Nephites on the western hemisphere and the lost ten tribes of Israel; the ongoing conflicts between Christ and Satan in the earthly kingdoms of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome and the modern nations of the earth; the great apostasy that followed the apostolic period; the restoration of Christ’s latter-day church in preparation for His Second Coming and the resurrection of His saints; and Christ’s millennial reign of peace on the renewed and paradisiacal earth for 1000 years, followed by the final defeat of Satan’s kingdom at the end of the earth. These topics and many more will be discussed in this podcast as the many symbols and apocalyptic images of Saint John the Divine are explained to unveil Jesus Christ.

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