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Verse

Discussing the latest news in digital art with Leyla Fakhr and Jamie Gourlay.

  1. OCT 4

    Raoul Pal: from Real Vision to the new art world

    00:25 – Intro: Raoul Pal 01:05 – Real Vision: why it started after the GFC/Euro crisis 02:06 – Democratising finance content; early crypto coverage 03:41 – Bootstrapping video: “we knew f*** all” era (2013–14) 04:45 – Word of mouth growth; mistakes + learning media/tech 06:40 – Art + NFTs: desire to be part of a cultural movement 09:05 – Crypto Twitter as daily culture; priceless long-term record 10:33 – What is “consensus”? Attention as the driver 13:00 – Influencers vs. durable consensus (fleeting vs. lasting) 14:32 – Do we need museum/gallery validation? Two worlds emerge 16:36 – Museums, value, and attention  17:19 – Counterpoint from museum practice; cultural significance 18:37 – Once museums act, value follows; UK institutions lag on digital 20:56 – Egalitarian internet: anyone can show, few will sell 22:19 – Raoul’s barbell thesis: ultra-culture ↔ frontier tech 24:10 – Living with digital art; display that works vs. doesn’t 25:33 – XCOPY supply dynamics; Beeple’s opposite path 28:05 – Die With The Most Likes: world-building & collector bonds 29:57 – Explaining it to the “old world”; youth curators & A&R analogy 30:52 – People will write the art history; institutions must adapt 32:27 – Contemporary art attention collapse; digital shows done poorly 33:48 – Onboarding wealthy collectors: friction + sticker shock 35:48 – Curation, custody, and NFT funds as bridges 37:22 – Can outsiders “feel it” without the chats? Not yet 38:52 – Is recommending digital art scary? On risk & Lindy effects 40:19 – The collector’s journey: pain → pride → taste 41:57 – Where are we in the NFT art cycle? Re-ratings ahead 43:45 – Token incentives = attention fuel, but fleeting 44:48 – Toward automated, attention-driven art funds (later) 46:11 – Shiny objects vs. signal; what the experiments teach 48:00 – AI upends moats; community as the moat 49:39 – One-to-one media future; end of “one-to-many” 51:00 – Human connection, shared experiences become scarce 51:40 – Art as cultural capsule in an AI world 53:06 – Marfa event as a “marker stone” 54:13 – Small world energy; one degree of separation 55:18 – Thanks + closing… 55:37 – One last Q: why Raoul goes against the grain 56:05 – Rebellion roots; living in the future 57:38 – Do it differently; travel > prestige paths 59:50 – Be yourself in the age of AI; find your voice 01:00:26 – Comfort zone ≠ where the magic happens https://x.com/RaoulGMI https://x.com/XCOPYART https://x.com/kimasendorf https://x.com/toadswiback

    57 min
  2. SEP 19

    Sebastian Sanchez: digital art at Christie's, auction models, and the power of relational dynamics

    00:45 - Welcome Sebastian Sanchez  08:55 - A journey into digital art  11:05 - Christie's 3.0 and joining the team  17:44 - Developing a commercial mindset  20:40 - Finding the right market fit  22:30 - Nurturing artist and collector relationships  25:05 - Highlights across the last three years  26:58 - Curatorial vs commercial perspectives  30:18 - The effect of an open market on institutional Web3 adoption  32:12 - The closure of Christie's digital art department  35:05 - The implications of digital work in the evening sale   38:42 - Winning collections and building the narrative  43:40 - Dynamics between primary and secondary markets  45:55 - Institutional vs. market credibility  48:00 - The reality of a nascent space  52:04 - A changing collector base  54:26 - A moment of future historical importance  56:19 - Sebastian's artist highlights  57:40 - The emergence of a merged market  01:00:28 - Verse roundtable  01:02:00 - V001: In Real Time recap  01:08:27 - The power of relational dynamics and mixed lots  01:14:26 - Marketing, strategies and themed lots  01:25:25 - Upcoming in-person events and gallery shows  01:27:45 - $PNKSTR  01:30:47 - Traditional art market decline  01:36:30 - Jack Butcher's Gas Wars  01:38:48 - Eric De Giuli and Zero (Broken Symmetry)  01:47:00 - Artist highlights  Sebastian Sanchez: https://x.com/sebastianss527  Lowbie: https://x.com/archivepilled  Thelonious Stokes: https://www.instagram.com/thelonious_art  Sachcoo The Arty: https://x.com/sachcoo_thearty  James Bloom: https://x.com/crashblossom1  Maya Man: https://x.com/mayaonthenet  Joe Pease: https://x.com/joepease  William Mapan: https://x.com/williamapan

    1h 54m

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