Wellbeing Explained

Be Well Co

Wellbeing Explained brings in the experts to answer the questions others won't, bust myths, and go deeper into the science of wellbeing at work. On the podcast, Be Well Co's Head of Research Dr Matthew Iasiello sits down with academics from different fields to unpack their work, the challenges they're facing, and what it actually means for the rest of us. Formerly Researching Happy. For workplace wellbeing practitioners, HR and people and culture teams, psychologists, coaches, and anyone in the wellbeing research space. Made by Be Well Co.

  1. Sep 1

    What if work was the solution not the cause? | Dr Kat Page

    In this episode Matt sits down with Dr Kat Page, organisational psychologist, author of Good Work, and one of the researchers behind the model that sits underneath most workplace mental health strategies in Australia. We get into why fixing the work is only half the job, what the new psychosocial legislation is actually producing on the ground, and what makes work good for the people doing it. What we cover •   Where the integrated approach to workplace mental health came from, and how a 2014 paper ended up cited by the World Health Organisation, the International Labour Organisation and Beyond Blue •   Why removing the harm from work does not guarantee thatanyone is well •   The six C's of good work: clarity, control, connection,contribution, competence and care •   The gap between having evidence in place for a regulator and actually doing the work •   Why small businesses sit furthest from the minimum standard, and the one thing they can do that large organisations cannot •   How to tell a credible wellbeing provider from snake oil •   What Kat tells wellbeing and HR people who are worn out from trying to shift their leaders Chapters 00:16 - Welcome and introduction 01:31 - Meet Dr Kat Page 02:07 - Why she wrote Good Work 06:21 - Where protect, promote and respond came from 10:58 - The three threads, and how the model went global 12:39 - The craft table: the model in one analogy 14:12 - Distress at work that didn't come from work 16:31 - Individual or systemic, and why we pick sides 17:31 - The question she gets asked on every podcast 18:35 - Why fixing the work isn't enough on its own 19:47 - What the legislation is actually producing 22:07 - The six C's of good work 24:48 - Which occupations carry the most risk 27:11 - The small business gap 29:57 - Data, or just having the conversation 31:10 - How to spot wellbeing snake oil 33:37 - For the practitioners who are worn out 35:56 - Wellbeing's marketing problem 36:25 - Human happiness in anAI-led workplace 36:55 - The one thing Kat does for her own wellbeing You can also watch episode #72 on YouTube or join the community on Substack. Connect further Follow Dr Kat Page on Instagram: & LinkedInCheck out Kat's book Good Work ByManyWebsite Follow Matt LinkedIn Substack

  2. Aug 17

    Is it Possible to Live Well with Cancer?

    Matt sits down with A/Prof Hannah Wardill, who leads the Supportive Oncology Research Group at the University of Adelaide and SAHMRI, and Natalie Tuckey, a health and clinical psychologist finishing a PhD on multiple myeloma. Together they've spent the past few years taking a wellbeing skills program built for workplaces and rebuilding it for people living with a rare, incurable blood cancer. It's delivered in peer groups by specialist myeloma nurses, and it exists because consumers asked for it. Their answer so far is yes, it's possible. But not by accident, and not by waiting until someone falls apart first. What we cover: Why mental health support in Australia mostly arrives once someone is already in crisis, and what a program built for the years before that point looks like.Why specialist myeloma nurses turned out to be the right people to deliver it, and what it did for the nurses themselves.Why this program landed when similar content struggled in workplaces and universities.The friction between a flexible, individualised wellbeing program and the fixed endpoints of a randomised controlled trial.What came out of 40+ interviews about end of life, and why "fear of recurrence" might be the wrong phrase for what people actually mean. Chapters:00:00 Meet Hannah and Nat03:04 A PhD in multiple myeloma and smouldering myeloma07:44 What the program is, and why it runs as a peer group09:05 The three aims of the project11:00 Dom, and the consumers who asked for mental health care12:19 Why support only arrives once you're in crisis17:14 "We already do wellbeing"19:03 The unsung heroes of supportive care24:52 Why this landed when the workplace programs didn't29:11 What surprised a lab scientist about wellbeing research34:20 Fitting a wellbeing program into a clinical trial38:06 The participant who dropped out and still benefited45:50 The Death Festival52:04 The loneliness nobody talks about55:06 Fear of recurrence, or fear of dying? Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZKJumS7dKzrB6stwsrnNV33fEd5lVe9M Join the community on Substack: https://wellbeingexplained.substack.com/podcast Follow Matt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-iasiello/Follow Matt on Substack: https://substack.com/@mattiasiello Follow Hannah Wardill: https://au.linkedin.com/in/hannahrosewardill Follow Natalie Tuckey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-t-68712035/ Researching Happy is hosted by Be Well Co's Head of Research & Translation. Be Well Co is a social enterprise by Camp Quality that focuses on proactive mental health and wellbeing care. Through evidence-based wellbeing workshops and programs to organisations, Be Well Co is on a mission to make an impact for the 5 million Australians currently languishing. Website: https://www.bewellco.io/

  3. Jul 20

    LIVE from ECPP26: Cleaning up the Mess of Measures in Positive Psychology

    In this special episode of Researching Happy, recorded at the European Conference on Positive Psychology in Dublin, Matthew Iasiello from Be Well Co and the University of Adelaide explores one of the most pressing issues in wellbeing science: the fragmented and inconsistent definitions of wellbeing. Iasiello presents a clear diagnosis of the problem — with nearly 100 different measures using widely varying dimensions, the field struggles with research synthesis, policy impact, and clear communication. When studies claim to “improve wellbeing,” it’s often unclear what exactly is being measured or changed.He proposes a promising solution: the development of a flexible, modular taxonomy of positive mental health. Drawing on a three-study program — including an umbrella review of 155 measures, in-depth item analysis, and a major Delphi consensus study with 122 leading international experts — Iasiello and his team identified 19 core dimensions that reached expert agreement. The talk covers the resulting working definition of positive mental health, the tension between standardization and cultural nuance, and why a taxonomy (inspired by the successful Behavior Change Technique Taxonomy) could bring greater clarity without becoming a rigid “prison cell” for the field. Iasiello discusses limitations, including the need for stronger cross-cultural validation and lived-experience perspectives, and outlines practical next steps for research, interventions, and policy. This presentation offers both a critical look at the current state of wellbeing science and an optimistic, collaborative path forward. Whether you're a researcher, practitioner, or anyone passionate about human flourishing, this episode provides valuable insight into how we can make well-being science more coherent and impactful. If this is the kind of conversation you want more of, subscribe. We bring in the experts to answer the questions others won’t, bust myths, and go deeper into the science. If you loved this ep, we’d love you to join the community over on Substack or watch more of our eps on YouTube. Connect further: Follow Matt on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-iasiello/⁠ Follow Matt on Substack: ⁠https://substack.com/@mattiasiello⁠ Researching Happy is hosted by Be Well Co's Head of Research & Translation. Be Well Co is a social enterprise by Camp Quality that focuses on proactive mental health and wellbeing care. Through evidence-based wellbeing workshops and programs to organisations, Be Well Co is on a mission to make an impact for the 5 million Australians currently languishing.

  4. Jun 29

    Flourishing with AI: Virtue Ethics and the Risks of Outsourcing Our Humanity

    In this episode of Researching Happy, Dr. Matthew Iasiello speaks with Dr. Anco Peeters, philosopher and cognitive scientist at Radboud University. Anco’s work sits at the intersection of embodied cognition, virtue ethics, human-centered design, and AI — with a focus on care robots, education, and the societal impacts of intelligent systems. Starting from a prescient thought experiment about “Google Morals,” Anco explains how we’ve rapidly moved from hypothetical worries about outsourcing ethics to everyday reality with large language models. The conversation explores: The risks of de-skilling critical thinking, moral reasoning, and reflection by over-relying on AIWhy friction, pushback, and discomfort are often essential for personal growth and flourishingVirtue ethics as a practical framework for evaluating AI in healthcare, education, and mental healthLessons from care robots and sex robots for today’s AI companionsPractical ways to design “frictional AI” that supports — rather than replaces — human connection and developmentThe balance between efficiency and human well-being in professional and personal contextsWhether you’re optimistic or concerned about AI’s role in our lives, this episode offers nuanced, thought-provoking insights grounded in philosophy and cognitive science. Anco makes a compelling case for human-centered AI development that prioritizes long-term flourishing over short-term convenience. If this is the kind of conversation you want more of, subscribe. We bring in the experts to answer the questions others won’t, bust myths, and go deeper into the science. If you loved this ep, we’d love you to join the community over on ⁠Substack⁠ or watch more of our eps on ⁠YouTube⁠. Connect further: Follow Matt on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-iasiello/⁠⁠ Follow Matt on Substack: ⁠⁠https://substack.com/@mattiasiello⁠⁠ Researching Happy is hosted by Be Well Co's Head of Research & Translation. ⁠Be Well Co⁠ is a social enterprise by Camp Quality that focuses on proactive mental health and wellbeing care. Through evidence-based wellbeing workshops and programs to organisations, Be Well Co is on a mission to make an impact for the 5 million Australians currently languishing.

  5. Jun 9

    Building Societies for Human Wellbeing: Stress, Social Conditions, and Flourishing | Dr. Matthew Fisher

    In this episode of Researching Happy, host Dr. Matthew Iasiello interviews Dr. Matt Fisher, philosopher, artist, and senior research fellow in public health at Adelaide University. They discuss Fisher’s book How to Create Societies for Human Well-being, which integrates philosophy, psychology, and public health to argue that societies must be intentionally designed to support human flourishing rather than undermine it. The conversation explores how social environments drive chronic stress through threats to coping ability and social standing, contributing to widespread mental ill-health (especially among young people). Fisher presents wellbeing as an active process—the development and exercise of “wellbeing abilities” (a capabilities-like approach) that require both personal resources and supportive external conditions. Key themes include balancing goal-directed action with rest, social connection, creativity, contact with nature, and sufficiency; the harms of inequality, discrimination, neoliberal ideology, digital media, and separation from nature; and practical ideas for wellbeing-oriented policies at local and societal levels. They critique the current trajectory of materialist, hustle-driven cultures and biomedical-focused mental health approaches, while highlighting promising examples from places like Scandinavia, Scotland, and Wales, along with prevention efforts in Australia. The episode emphasizes clear thinking about what truly supports thriving and calls for shifting from reactive treatment to proactive societal design. It’s an insightful, balanced discussion for anyone interested in mental health, public policy, and creating better conditions for people to live well. If this is the kind of conversation you want more of, subscribe. We bring in the experts to answer the questions others won’t, bust myths, and go deeper into the science. If you loved this ep, we’d love you to join the community over on ⁠Substack⁠ or watch more of our eps on ⁠YouTube⁠. Connect further: Follow Matt on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-iasiello/⁠⁠ Follow Matt on Substack: ⁠⁠https://substack.com/@mattiasiello⁠⁠ Researching Happy is hosted by Be Well Co's Head of Research & Translation. ⁠Be Well Co⁠ is a social enterprise by Camp Quality that focuses on proactive mental health and wellbeing care. Through evidence-based wellbeing workshops and programs to organisations, Be Well Co is on a mission to make an impact for the 5 million Australians currently languishing.

  6. May 25

    Time for a Reset: The Future of Positive Psychology | Prof Aaron Jarden

    In this episode of Researching Happy, host Matt welcomes back Professor Aaron Jarden, who recently moved to Perth and took on the role of Associate Dean (Postgraduate) in the School of Education at Edith Cowan University (ECU). Aaron discusses his leadership approach, which emphasizes enabling others, and reflects on career highlights beyond metrics (e.g., student successes). The core discussion focuses on the upcoming 12th European Conference on Positive Psychology (ECPP), where Aaron serves as co-chair of the academic committee. He is highly enthusiastic about its innovative philosophy: greater interdisciplinarity, genuine debate and extended audience conversations (not just Q&A), meaningful networking, audience participation via QR codes, video abstracts for broader access, and a playful, non-hierarchical vibe. The conference theme centers on positive health (body meeting mind) and boldly tackling major global challenges like war, poverty, climate change, and non-communicable diseases. Aaron sees it as a watershed moment for the field — an opportunity to address stagnation, lack of clear direction/leadership, and the need for a fresh, collaborative community vision (moving beyond Martin Seligman’s original framing). He highlights the transparent, democratic committee process and the influx of fresh talent/future leaders. Broader reflections include: Positive psychology/wellbeing science embedding successfully in established disciplines (e.g., education).The value of better questions, sustainable wellbeing, and translation to policy/practice.Challenges like conceptual clarity, integration with psychology, and avoiding insularity. If this is the kind of conversation you want more of, subscribe. We bring in the experts to answer the questions others won’t, bust myths, and go deeper into the science. If you loved this ep, we’d love you to join the community over on ⁠Substack⁠ or watch more of our eps on ⁠YouTube⁠. Connect further: Follow Matt on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-iasiello/⁠⁠ Follow Matt on Substack: ⁠⁠https://substack.com/@mattiasiello⁠⁠ Researching Happy is hosted by Be Well Co's Head of Research & Translation. ⁠Be Well Co⁠ is a social enterprise by Camp Quality that focuses on proactive mental health and wellbeing care. Through evidence-based wellbeing workshops and programs to organisations, Be Well Co is on a mission to make an impact for the 5 million Australians currently languishing.

  7. May 11

    Are We Preventing Suicide in One Room and Assisting It in Another? A/Prof Kristin Collier

    We all agree that something is deeply wrong with how we die today. In many modern healthcare systems, death feels over-medicalised, isolating, and often stripped of meaning, dignity, and human connection. No one is defending the status quo.Yet on the deeply contentious issue of assisted dying, we are sharply divided — not necessarily on the existence of suffering, but on how we should respond to it, and what it truly means for human dignity, autonomy, and the role of medicine. In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Kristin Collier — practicing internist, Associate Professor at the University of Michigan, and Director of the Program on Health, Spirituality, and Religion. We explore the fundamental tension between our strong societal commitment to suicide prevention and the growing push for physician-assisted dying. A central challenge in this conversation is language itself. Terms like “death with dignity” and “medical aid in dying” carry powerful emotional weight for many. Others, including the American Medical Association, insist on the term “physician-assisted suicide,” arguing that softer language can obscure reality and erode the healing identity of medicine.Dr. Collier offers a thoughtful, principled critique rooted in concerns about patient vulnerability, ableism, bracket creep, unintended consequences for disabled communities, and the integrity of the medical profession. We also examine how different worldviews understand autonomy and dignity — one sees dignity as the right to control the timing and manner of death, while another sees it as intrinsic to every person, independent of suffering or disability. We discuss power differentials in healthcare, financial incentives, and the critical distinction between aiming at death versus making difficult choices to forgo burdensome treatments near the end of life.While the conversation is uncomfortable, we find important common ground:  No one believes we are dying well right now. Better palliative care, deeper accompaniment of suffering, stronger support systems, and honest cultural reform around death are urgently needed — no matter where one stands on assisted dying.This is a nuanced and respectful exploration of one of the most important ethical questions of our time. Chapters 00:00 The Dilemma of Life and Death 03:04 Understanding Human Dignity 06:04 The Role of Medicine in Suffering 11:09 The Language of Dignity and Death 15:51 Compassionate Responses to Suffering 21:19 The Ethics of Physician-Assisted Suicide 25:56 Financial Incentives and Healthcare Choices 32:05 The Role of Disability Advocacy in Medical Ethics 35:43 Ableism and Ageism in Medicine 39:08 The Complexity of Suffering and Assisted Dying 46:28 The Slippery Slope of Assisted Dying Legislation 51:46 Moral Perspectives on Physician-Assisted Suicide 54:02 Building Consensus on End-of-Life Care If this is the kind of conversation you want more of, subscribe. We bring in the experts to answer the questions others won’t, bust myths, and go deeper into the science. If you loved this ep, we’d love you to join the community over on ⁠Substack⁠ or watch more of our eps on ⁠YouTube⁠. Connect further: Follow Matt on LinkedIn: ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-iasiello/⁠⁠ Follow Matt on Substack: ⁠⁠https://substack.com/@mattiasiello⁠⁠ Researching Happy is hosted by Be Well Co's Head of Research & Translation. ⁠Be Well Co⁠ is a social enterprise by Camp Quality that focuses on proactive mental health and wellbeing care. Through evidence-based wellbeing workshops and programs to organisations, Be Well Co is on a mission to make an impact for the 5 million Australians currently languishing.

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Wellbeing Explained brings in the experts to answer the questions others won't, bust myths, and go deeper into the science of wellbeing at work. On the podcast, Be Well Co's Head of Research Dr Matthew Iasiello sits down with academics from different fields to unpack their work, the challenges they're facing, and what it actually means for the rest of us. Formerly Researching Happy. For workplace wellbeing practitioners, HR and people and culture teams, psychologists, coaches, and anyone in the wellbeing research space. Made by Be Well Co.

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