What if We?

RALLY

What If We? is a new podcast about advocacy, persuasion, and the messages that move us. Hosted by Kaitlin Funaro from advocacy agency RALLY, each episode features real talk with advocates and strategists working on issues like marriage equality, education equity, climate action, racial justice, and many others. Follow wherever you get your podcasts, and reach out to us at pod@wearerally.com.

Episodes

  1. 2D AGO

    Metrics Don’t Create Community: Engagement Tips for Advocacy Communications

    Storytelling moves people — but it’s not enough on its own. The real magic happens when stories spark engagement and build community. That’s why one of our persuasion principles is “storytelling needs engagement.”  In this episode, host Kaitlin Funaro talks with content creator Benjamin Coy and Dr. Ashley Elliott, a Doctor of Clinical Psychology and content creator better known as Dr. Vivid, about what it takes to turn storytelling into connection. From reclaiming queer narratives online to bringing those stories to life offline, they explore how authentic engagement transforms content into community — and why that’s where real change begins. In This Episode: The importance of cultivating online and offline connections The emotional cost of chasing metrics and numbers over meaning and impactEngagement is a two-way street to cultivate belonging for your followersWhy marginalized creators need safe, inclusive spaces to tell their storiesAdvice for creators and organizations building authentic community on social mediaLinks: Learn more about Dr. Vivid at doctorvivid.com and Benjamin Coy at linktr.ee/benjiecoy  About RALLY: RALLY is an advocacy communications firm that works with foundations, nonprofits, businesses, and campaigns to change the way people think and act around today’s biggest social and political challenges. Where you can find us: wearerally.com Follow us on LinkedIn Follow us on Instagram Do you have an idea for an episode or want to connect with us? Say hello at pod@wearerally.com.

    21 min
  2. OCT 30

    Main Character Energy: The Psychology of Audience Identity

    What if we stopped thinking about audiences as demographics and started seeing them as heroes of their own stories? In this episode of What If We?, guest host, Sheri Klein, Senior Director of  Research and Strategy at RALLY, sits down with Principal Hillary Moglen and Riki Conrey, Principal Scientist at Harmony Labs, to unpack how audience identity shapes persuasion. From the shows we watch to the personal conflicts we face, our media choices reflect more than just preferences; they reveal our values, aspirations, and worldviews. Together, Hillary and Riki explore how advocates and communicators can move beyond “reaching everyone” to instead meet audiences where they are, address their concerns, and craft stories that resonate deeply. They also share why the “movable middle” isn’t about convincing people to agree, but about understanding their internal conflicts and helping them see the choices in front of them. If you’ve ever wondered how to tailor messages that move people toward shared understanding and action, this episode offers both the art and the science behind it. In This Episode: What “audience identity” really means.How the shows we watch reflect our values and worldviewWhy advocates should explore different media segments to understand different audiencesThe biggest mistake communicators make: trying to “reach everyone”How to think about the “movable middle” through the lens of identity and conflictWhy conflict is not something to avoid—but to embrace as a path to persuasionWhat the future of audience engagement looks like in an era of AI and changing media habits About RALLY: RALLY is an advocacy communications firm that works with foundations, nonprofits, businesses, and campaigns to change the way people think and act around today’s biggest social and political challenges. Where you can find us: wearerally.com Follow us on LinkedIn Follow us on Instagram Do you have an idea for an episode or want to connect with us? Say hello at pod@wearerally.com.

    21 min
  3. OCT 16

    'No One Trusts a Phony:' What Authenticity in Action Looks Like

    Authenticity isn’t just a buzzword—it’s the foundation of trust, influence, and real persuasion. In this episode of The Art and Science of Persuasion series, Kaitlin Funaro sits down with RALLY Principal Latia Curry Harrison to talk about why authentic, genuine communication matters more than ever in a world flooded with polished messaging. They explore how leaders and organizations can show up authentically—even within the guardrails of talking points—by embracing vulnerability, rejecting jargon, and backing up words with meaningful action. From public figures like AOC and Charlamagne tha God to lessons from the advocacy space, this episode unpacks real examples that make messages feel real and what makes them fall flat.  In This Episode: Why authenticity is the foundation of persuasion and trustThe dangers of jargon and over-filtered messagingWhy unfiltered, emotionally honest communication connects with audiences What we can learn from leaders who speak with consistency and convictionThe role of vulnerability in building trust and influenceWhy actions must match words to sustain credibility About RALLY: RALLY is an advocacy communications firm that works with foundations, nonprofits, businesses, and campaigns to change the way people think and act around today’s biggest social and political challenges. Where you can find us: wearerally.com Follow us on LinkedIn Follow us on Instagram Do you have an idea for an episode or want to connect with us? Say hello at pod@wearerally.com.

    20 min
  4. OCT 2

    Emotions > Facts: How MTV’s 16 & Pregnant and Jersey Shore became an advocacy juggernaut

    Why do we remember stories, not statistics?  Persuasion isn’t just about presenting the facts—it’s about connecting with people on an emotional level. Today in our series The Art and Science of Persuasion, Kaitlin Funaro talks with Stephen Friedman, former president of MTV and adjunct professor at Columbia University, and Jason Rzepka, Senior Director at RALLY, to discuss how storytelling and emotional engagement can drive real-world impact. From MTV campaigns that shaped cultural conversations to lessons for today’s advocacy work, they reveal why tapping into emotion often works better than relying on data. In This Episode: How MTV used reality TV like 16 and Pregnant, Teen Mom, and Jersey Shore to connect with audiences through story and emotion Why connecting emotionally—rather than overloading with facts—can change minds, especially among audiences that aren’t already convinced or awareThe role of authentic, relatable storytelling in shaping public opinion and fostering social changeStrategies for advocates to integrate emotional storytelling without sacrificing credibility or forcing a narrativeLessons from reality and scripted TV on how narrative can spark awareness, action, and empathyHow partnering with professional storytellers and showing social issues through personal journeys engages, educates, and inspires audiences Read more:  Media Influences on Social Outcomes: The Impact of MTV’s 16 and Pregnant on Teen Childbearing About RALLY: RALLY is an advocacy communications firm that works with foundations, nonprofits, businesses, and campaigns to change the way people think and act around today’s biggest social and political challenges. Where you can find us: wearerally.com Follow us on LinkedIn Follow us on Instagram Do you have an idea for an episode or want to connect with us? Say hello at pod@wearerally.com.

    20 min
  5. SEP 18

    The Art & Science of Persuasion: How We Change Minds

    What does it mean to be persuaded? And why do so many of us resist the idea of changing our minds? Persuasion isn’t just about convincing—it’s about influence, connection, and building shared understanding. And in today’s polarized world, it might be one of the most important tools advocates have. This episode kicks off a special series on persuasion. Over the next six episodes, we’ll explore the principles that make persuasion possible—how identity shapes who we listen to, how emotions matter more than facts, and how we can use connection and storytelling to bridge divides and make progress on sticky issues. Today, Kaitlin talks with research director Sheri Klein and Dr. Nichole Argo, social psychologist and founder of the TogetherUp Institute. They unpack what persuasion really means in advocacy today, why going on the attack often backfires, and what the research tells us about how people actually change their minds. From sacred values to the power of community, they explore how communicators can use persuasion to build a “bigger we.” In This Episode: What persuasion really is—and why it’s more common in daily life than we thinkThe three M’s of persuasion: message, messenger, and mediumHow authentic connection, curiosity, and listening can move people more than logicLessons from deep canvassing: why persuasion often works best when you’re not trying to persuadeThe importance of building a “bigger we” in advocacy and communicationsTo hear more conversations about community and belonging, check out the podcast Reimagining Us with Nichole Argo & Scott Hutcheson.  About RALLY: RALLY is an advocacy communications firm that works with foundations, nonprofits, businesses, and campaigns to change the way people think and act around today’s biggest social and political challenges. Where you can find us: wearerally.com Follow us on LinkedIn Follow us on Instagram Do you have an idea for an episode or want to connect with us? Say hello at pod@wearerally.com.

    27 min
  6. SEP 4

    15 Min FAQ: Becoming A LinkedInfluencer & Cracking the LinkedIn Algorithm

    LinkedIn—it’s not just an online résumé. It’s a platform for storytelling, visibility, and connection. When used strategically, it helps decision-makers, partners, and allies find you, learn from you, and amplify your work.  RALLY's Kaitlin Funaro chats with the pod's favorite digital expert Elyse Dickson Becker and thought leadership extroidinare René Verma to break down all the essentials of LinkedIn — from what the algorithm rewards, to the role of video, visuals, and engagement, in just 15 minutes (well, almost!). In This Episode: What quality thought leadership looks like on LinkedIn Practical tips to make your posts stand out The value of engagement: commenting, sharing, and interacting to boost your presenceVideo? Photos? Emoji lists? What kind of content the algorithm rewards Why the "golden hour" of a LinkedIn post is so important for visibility Read More:  How the LinkedIn algorithm works in 2025 LinkedIn Algorithm Explained & How It Works  What LinkedIn Golden Hour Algorithm Means for Early Engagement About RALLY: RALLY is an advocacy communications firm that works with foundations, nonprofits, businesses, and campaigns to change the way people think and act around today’s biggest social and political challenges. Where you can find us: wearerally.com Follow us on LinkedIn Follow us on Instagram Do you have an idea for an episode or want to connect with us? Say hello at pod@wearerally.com.

    17 min

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What If We? is a new podcast about advocacy, persuasion, and the messages that move us. Hosted by Kaitlin Funaro from advocacy agency RALLY, each episode features real talk with advocates and strategists working on issues like marriage equality, education equity, climate action, racial justice, and many others. Follow wherever you get your podcasts, and reach out to us at pod@wearerally.com.

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