What's Your Baseline? Enterprise Architecture & Business Process Management Demystified

Roland Woldt / J-M Erlendson

This show is about Enterprise Architecture and Business Process Management, and how you can set up your practice to get the most out of it. It is for newbies who just get started with these topics, organizations who want to improve their EA/BPM groups (and the value that they get from it), as well as practitioners who want to get a different perspective and care about the discipline. Learn more about the show and read articles about EA and BPM on www.whatsyourbaseline.com.

  1. Ep. 99 - BPMN 3(?): Part 1

    23H AGO

    Ep. 99 - BPMN 3(?): Part 1

    BPMN—”the” standard for process modeling and also the foundation for process automation using BPMS tools—is currently in its version 2.02, and that version was published in early 2014.Since then? Crickets. So, why haven't we seen an update of the standard? That is a big question and since we had such a blast talking about this topic we went wayyyyy overboard time-wise so that we are splitting the episode into two (well, Episodes 99 and 99 1/2) ;-) Part 2 will be published in a week from now, on next Monday. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Today’s topic: the complaint episode — what’s wrong with BPMN 2.0 and why we need a BPMN 3.0.A quick refresher: what BPMN is, where it came from, and why it became the lingua franca of process modeling.The promise of BPMN — a vendor-neutral, universal standard that was supposed to be “the last one you’d ever need.”The architecture perspective: balancing human understanding with machine execution — and why that balance got lost.A trip through history — from BPMN 1.0 (2004) to BPMN 2.0 (2011) and the last official update way back in 2013.The big question: why has BPMN stagnated for 12 years despite widespread use and clear pain points?Misconceptions and limitations — why BPMN isn’t truly hierarchical and struggles with multi-level process design.The missing pieces: business context, data models, organizational links, and real-world process hierarchies.AI and automation — how BPMN 2.0 fails to address adaptive, probabilistic, or dynamic process behavior.Tool vendors’ workarounds — how they “extended” BPMN to make it usable for analysts and automation implementers.The call to action: OMG, it’s time to evolve the standard — let’s build a BPMN 3.0 for the next generation.Listener question: how do you use BPMN 2.0? What frustrates you — and how have you worked around it? Please reach out to us by either sending an email to hello@whatsyourbaseline.com or signing up for our newsletter and getting informed when we publish new episodes here: https://www.whatsyourbaseline.com/subscribe/.

    32 min
  2. Ep. 98 - Decisions, Decisions ... with Tony Phillips

    SEP 22

    Ep. 98 - Decisions, Decisions ... with Tony Phillips

    There is a thing that I have not seen managed well in today's organizations: business rules. Typically, they are an “afterthought” in implementations (because you have to feed the business rules engine and control the process flow). But how many organizations rationalize the underlying business rules on a larger scale? When was the last time the magic “above $50 and below $50” rule was looked at? Remember $50 in 1979 is $222 today. And how do we check business rules and compliance when we don't even know what AI agents even do in detail? Today we are speaking with Tony Phillips, an experienced consultant, business architect, and business systems analyst with a focus on improving business efficiency and effectiveness. He covers strategy planning, capability modeling, process reengineering, systems analysis and design, data modeling, business rules engineering, and project management. Tony's experience, skills, and versatility allow him to excel as an architect, analyst, designer, mentor, trainer, and methodology implementer. He has a track record of providing critical services to and maintaining excellent relations with a wide range of clients, including government and financial services companies worldwide. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Defining Business Rules: Tony defines a business rule as a simple “if/then” statement that determines an output based on an input. He argues that business rules are a critical part of the “why” column in the Zachman framework and that they change more frequently than processes.Rules in Action: The hosts and guest discuss how business rules often change, using examples from the insurance and mortgage industries where the process remains the same, but the rules for approval constantly evolve.Separating Rules from Process: The discussion highlights the importance of managing business rules separately from processes and data. Tony notes that rules can apply to various aspects, including data types, data entities, and the relationships between them.DMN and Process Flow: The conversation touches on the Decision Model and Notation (DMN), a standard that connects an external rules table to a decision task within a BPMN diagram. This approach helps avoid complex, unwieldy decision trees.The Challenge of Complexity: The hosts and Tony discuss the complexity of modeling decisions, noting that a single, massive spreadsheet is typically not the most effective approach. Instead, they suggest using smaller, more focused decision tables that feed into one another.Governance and Maintenance: The podcast raises the critical question of who governs and manages business rules. Ideally, rules should be stored in a central, reusable repository where changes can be made and updated everywhere.False Positives vs. False Negatives: Tony explains the difference between false positives (a rule approves something it shouldn't have) and false negatives (a rule rejects something that should have been approved). He notes that false negatives are particularly difficult to spot and often require a manual audit or comparison to old methods.Business Rules and AI: The conversation transitions to the role of business rules in the age of AI. Tony proposes that business rules act as algorithmic “yes/no” decisions, whereas AI is more goal-oriented and based on probabilities.AI's Guardrails: The hosts and Tony agree that business rules are essential “guardrails” for AI, ensuring that AI's outcome-oriented behavior doesn't lead to unintended negative consequences. They also emphasize the need for human oversight and governance of AI-driven processes. Tony can be found on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonynphillips/. Please reach out to us by either sending an email to hello@whatsyourbaseline.com or signing up for our newsletter and getting informed when we publish new episodes here: https://www.whatsyourbaseline.com/subscribe/.

    53 min
  3. Ep. 97 - Successful Process Mining Projects

    SEP 8

    Ep. 97 - Successful Process Mining Projects

    Process Mining—a technology and technique that Gartner just called “early mainstream” in one of their last reports. But many people still don’t know exactly how to approach this thing. They listen to the vendors talking about technical integrations and all the fancy features, which—to be honest—can be pretty overwhelming for someone who is just looking at it. That is why Roland wrote his second book about “Successful Process Mining Projects,” which will be released in a bit more than a week from now on Sep. 15. It is full of real-life experiences and advice for the newbie who tries to make sense of all the new terms and possibilities. To introduce you to the content and approach, we recorded an episode talking about the book while J-M tried to be the tough investigative journalist that he wants to become—spoiler alert, there were still some softball questions 😉 In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Roland’s second book, “Successful Process Mining Projects,” is a follow-up to his first, “Successful Architecture Implementation.” It focuses on the measurement and analysis phase of the process and solution lifecycle.The book was written to address the need for guidance in process mining, as Roland observed that many large organizations have dabbled in the technology without widespread adoption or success.It aims to serve a wider audience, including small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs), and provides a neutral, experience-based perspective on the topic.Roland presents a six-step process for successful process mining projects, which he recommends doing in short, five-week iterations to build momentum and demonstrate value quickly.The six steps are: 1) Develop a strategy, 2) Extract data, 3) Create a data model, 4) Create a reference model, 5) Perform the analysis, and 6) Define process improvements.The book uses a fictitious case study about a medical device company called “Heartbeat” to demonstrate how to apply these steps in a real-world scenario.A key aspect of the process is the “aha moment” when a client sees their discovered process for the first time, which can reveal surprising truths and lead to an emotional reaction.Included with the book are free resources, such as all the graphics from the book, a checklist to guide projects, and the data and project files from the case study.These freebies are intended to act as an “accelerator” for readers, helping them get started with their projects. The book will be available on many marketplaces (Amazon, Apple, Google, etc.) but is also available in our webshop at whatsyourbaseline.gumroad.com. Please reach out to us by either sending an email to hello@whatsyourbaseline.com or signing up for our newsletter and getting informed when we publish new episodes here: https://www.whatsyourbaseline.com/subscribe/.

    1h 5m
  4. Ep. 96 - Integrated Management System: Vassilik Spentzou

    AUG 25

    Ep. 96 - Integrated Management System: Vassilik Spentzou

    We are hundreds of years into thinking about how we do work (insert your philosopher of choice here: Smith, Marx, Plato, etc.), but I get the impression that the most common style is “muddling through.” But why is that? Why has the concept of an Integrated Management System (IMS) not taken hold in many organizations? Is it too complicated? Too much effort? Not worth it?Even though I doubt that anyone will deny the benefits of an organized, integrated, and streamlined way of producing your product and value for your customers, it requires a certain amount of maturity to stand up an IMS. Vassiliki built her experience through numerous operational excellence projects that she has led or participated in. Her strongest competencies include identifying opportunities, specifying and managing customized optimization initiatives within large organizations, usually including specialized process analysis to raise BPM awareness, proposing digitization interventions, and applying change scenarios. She has invested in building her expertise in enterprise architecture methodologies and practices, facilitating process performance-based optimization, optimal systems & data strategy implementation, and compliance with GRC frameworks & practices. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Vassiliki's backgroundWhat is an Integrated Management System (IMS)?Benefits of an IMS for an organizationWho needs to be involved?IMS in the era of AIKey topics of an IMS exploredReal-world project examples (telco and banking)Success factors when implementing and operating an IMS Vassiliki can be reached via LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vassilikispentzou1/. Please reach out to us by either sending an email to hello@whatsyourbaseline.com or signing up for our newsletter and getting informed when we publish new episodes here: https://www.whatsyourbaseline.com/subscribe/.

    55 min
  5. Ep. 95 - Green BPM: Katharina Paulick

    AUG 11

    Ep. 95 - Green BPM: Katharina Paulick

    Having lived in two cultures, it is so interesting to see how people cope with big problems. Climate change and sustainability are some of the biggest issues that we have to deal with in our lifetimes, and I see reactions from denial to aimless “do-gooder” activity. But how do you improve this situation and solve the problem to get to more sustainable business practices? Well, process management (and especially the flavor of “Green BPM”) to the rescue. This week we are speaking with Katharina Paulick, who is a creative, engaged, and dynamic professional in life sciences, lab automation, and machine learning. She works in a Green BPM consulting firm and is the right expert for our topic. Katharina’s objective is to help create a sustainable Industry 4.0, and she stumbled (and then dove deep into) process management a few years ago. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Katharina’s backgroundThe topic of “Green BPM” and why it is important from economical, ecological, etc., up to regulatory requirementsThe dimensions of Green BPM from economical, ecological, etc., up to regulatory requirementsThe limitations of regulatory approvals of processes and how they can limit process executionWhy is there resistance against green practices?Katharina’s approach to process analysis and figuring out the needed changesThe challenge (and benefits) of working as an external person without the detailed background of the processWhat are the recommendations when you want to implement your sustainable BPM program? If you’d like to reach out to Katharina, simply connect with her on LinkedIn or on Mastodon (@katharinaxxx@social.tchncs.de) Please reach out to us by either sending an email to hello@whatsyourbaseline.com or signing up for our newsletter and getting informed when we publish new episodes here: https://www.whatsyourbaseline.com/subscribe/.

    52 min
  6. Ep. 94 - AI Hype: Maxwell Smith

    JUL 28

    Ep. 94 - AI Hype: Maxwell Smith

    We are back with our first episode of the brand-new season 9 of the podcast—and we are starting right into the topic of these days: AI … well, the AI hype that is out there. And we are discussing what you can do to avoid falling into the trap of falling for that hype. Our guest today is Maxwell Smith, who I had the pleasure of working with in a past life. He has years of experience in product management and product marketing in the BPM space with an IT background. Max is a detail-oriented analytical thinker who enjoys empathizing with customers' problems and bringing solutions to market through products and positioning. The attention to detail is always contextualized with the larger vision of the product. The key success factor is his passion for tech and understanding of people's perception of it. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about: Max' backgroundA look at the different forms of AI (and their benefits and drawbacks)How to see through "AI-washing"Guiding questions to help folks to see if the vendor is really using AISecondary questions/guidelines to consider if AI seems to be legit in a vendor's pitchOther concerns to look out for when implementing AI-supported technology Max can be reached on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwell-smith-1b612b83/. Please reach out to us by either sending an email to hello@whatsyourbaseline.com or signing up for our newsletter and getting informed when we publish new episodes here: https://www.whatsyourbaseline.com/subscribe/.

    1h 6m
  7. Second Chance: APQC visualized - What's Your Baseline Shorts 10

    JUL 16 · BONUS

    Second Chance: APQC visualized - What's Your Baseline Shorts 10

    Today we have our last “What's Your Baseline?” short during our little summer break. And this time we're looking at something special. This is a Shorts about APQC and we had a long episode with Moritz Berger about what that framework is and all of those things. Moritz put in the APQC reference framework into a tool called The Brain. What I really like with that and the short is mostly a demonstration of what he did and we're talking about what to take in care of when using APQC. What he did was, the tool is not linear; it's not folders and models, etc., but it's connected nodes. And this is where I think the process modeling tools should go. Anyway, enjoy the show. (And here are the show notes from the initial release) This is another What's Your Baseline? Shorts episode and we are following up with the guest from our last episode, Moritz Berger. Moritz took the APQC Process Classification Framework and imported it into “The Brain” to visualize the breakdown and connectivity of processes to each other. Since this Shorts consists mostly of a demonstration, you might want to watch at it on Spotify, YouTube, or on our website. And if you like to click through the Brain for yourself, please go here: ⁠⁠https://bra.in/3qzgr6⁠⁠. Please reach out to us by either sending an email to ⁠⁠⁠hello@whatsyourbaseline.com⁠⁠⁠ or signing up for our newsletter and getting informed when we publish new episodes here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.whatsyourbaseline.com/subscribe.⁠

    17 min

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This show is about Enterprise Architecture and Business Process Management, and how you can set up your practice to get the most out of it. It is for newbies who just get started with these topics, organizations who want to improve their EA/BPM groups (and the value that they get from it), as well as practitioners who want to get a different perspective and care about the discipline. Learn more about the show and read articles about EA and BPM on www.whatsyourbaseline.com.

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