Wood for the Trees Cait Macleod

The police have a duty to protect our right to protest while maintaining public safety. Too often they get the balance wrong. 

Edward Maguire  is a professor of criminology and criminal justice at Arizona State University and the author of a guidebook on policing protests safely. 

He talks to Cait about crowd psychology, the history of protest policing, and his advice for police who take on these challenging events. 
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Prof Muntingh is the Director of the Dullah Omar Institute, a human rights organisation based in Cape Town, South Africa.  He's been involved in criminal justice reform for three decades. We spoke about:


 Wins and fails in African criminal justice The cheapest way to cut crimeTackling torture in prisonsAnd even why a man was imprisoned for burying his cat. 
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Professor Mark Osler used to push for heavy sentences for narcotics trafficking as a federal prosecutor. Now he helps prisoners petition for clemency.  How's that for a plot twist? 

In this episode we discuss:
-  Whether the justice system can have an impact on drug use
- Why narcotics should be treated more like white collar crime
- The notion of compassionate prosecution.
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Prison is supposed to protect, deter,  and rehabilitate. But what if isn't a very effective way of doing those things? My guests offer two different visions of how the prison system could be re-imagined - including a glimpse of a Norwegian prison that looks nicer than most college dorms. 

Featuring

Dr David Scott - abolitionism activist and scholar from the Open University

Are Hoidal - former warden of Halden Prison in Norway
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Prisons don't do what we want them to do. Should we ditch them? Or perhaps reimagine them?

Cait speaks to abolitionist and criminologist David Scott about why he hopes for a world without prisons. 

Then she interviews Are Hoidal, former warden of Halden Prison in Norway, about a different approach to imprisonment that seems to yield better results. 
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A conversation with Ronan Levy, industry pioneer and CEO of Field Trip Health,  a company that offers psychedelic-enhanced psychotherapy. 



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