Work, Measured

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Work is changing faster than most companies can keep up. On Work, Measured, behavioral scientist Dr. Nick Hobson and operator Imran Syed explore the hidden signals behind performance, leadership, workplace culture, burnout, hiring, employee retention, and the future of work. Nick brings the science of human behavior and organizational psychology. Imran brings real-world experience leading teams, scaling companies, and building AI for performance management. Together, they unpack how great teams are built, why people disengage, how AI is reshaping work, and what drives high performance.

Episodes

  1. May 15

    We Win by Being Human: Paul Hamilton & Dr. Tatijana Busic on Fear, AI, and the Case for People

    In this episode, Imran & Nick sit down with Paul Hamilton — KPMG Canada's Director of National Talent Attraction Strategy who spent over two decades in HR at Microsoft, LCBO, and KPMG — and Dr. Tatijana Busic — a clinical and organizational psychologist who co-created "The Inner Edge" leadership program — for a conversation about why 93% of organizations have adopted AI but are seeing almost no return. Using a treadmill metaphor that runs through the entire episode, they unpack why dropping a powerful new tool into a workplace doesn't mean anyone will use it — and why 31% of employees are actively sabotaging AI strategies from the inside. Paul shares a story from his time with Frank Clegg at Microsoft that reframes what leadership actually looks like at 5:30 in the evening, and introduces his concept of the "automation ceiling" — the point where human judgment, empathy, and relational intelligence become irreplaceable. Dr. Tatijana Busic breaks down why resistance to change isn't a character flaw — it's brain biology. Our fear centers aren't designed for chronic activation, and the speed of AI-era change is pushing people into reactive survival mode. She reveals why she turns down resilience training engagements when the executive team isn't doing the work themselves, and why humans succeed not because we're the smartest species, but because we're the best copycats. Together, they make the case that the organizations who win won't be the ones with the best AI — they'll be the ones who remember that people are still the greatest thing they'll ever build.

    42 min

  2. Feb 17

    Closing the Courage Gap with Dr. Margie Warrell

    In this episode, Imran & Nick sit down with Dr. Margie Warrell — bestselling author of The Courage Gap, leadership coach, and advisor to NASA, Microsoft, and Visa — for a conversation about why the gap between what leaders are doing and what they're capable of almost always comes down to fear. Margie shares the principle that's guided her life since childhood on an Australian dairy farm: growth and comfort can't ride the same horse. From there, they dig into why we overestimate risk, underestimate ourselves, and pay what she calls a "timidity tax" every time we choose safety over action. Margie breaks down why courage isn't a personality trait but a learnable skill, how the most successful founders she's met — including Richard Branson — didn't avoid failure but changed their relationship with it, and what it takes to scale a courage mindset across teams and organizations.

    39 min

  3. Feb 17

    Own Your Voice: Kim Rittberg on Fear and Confidence

    In this episode, Imran & Nick sit down with Kim Rittberg — former Netflix and Us Weekly executive who built a video unit into a $100 million sale — for a candid conversation about why even the most accomplished people hold themselves back. Kim was an award-winning executive producer who still took two years to start her business and a full year to greenlight her own podcast. The culprit every time was fear. Now a communications and confidence coach, Kim breaks down how to identify what's really holding you back — imposter syndrome, fear of judgment, or fear of failure — and why desire has to outweigh the fear for anything to change. They also dig into why your boss matters more than your job, how companies keep losing parents from the workforce, and why in an AI-saturated world, your humanity is the only real differentiator left.

    30 min

  4. 12/03/2025

    The Truth About Staying, Thriving & Getting Promoted

    In this episode, Imran & Nick sits down with Howie Konopko, Executive Vice President at Publicis and former Oracle colleague, for an honest conversation about what really makes people stay at companies- and what drives them away. Howie breaks down the framework every employee should use to evaluate their role: fair compensation, interesting work, trust in your team, and opportunities for growth. He shares practical advice on how to thrive in your organization by going above and beyond (without burning out), the traits that separate high performers from everyone else, and why having a bad manager might actually be one of the best learning experiences of your career. We also dive into the realities of modern work culture—from the distorted expectations social media creates for Gen Z employees to the ongoing tension between remote work and in-person collaboration. Howie reveals what he really looks for when hiring, how to differentiate yourself in interviews, and why dressing the part and embodying the role before you get promoted is crucial. Whether you're navigating your current job, considering a move, or trying to figure out how to advance your career, this episode is packed with actionable insights from someone who's managed hundreds of people across Citi, Oracle, and Publicis.

    34 min

  5. 11/13/2025

    Why 'Transform NOW' Culture Drives Talent Away (with Mark Cruth)

    Most companies think they're losing talent because of salary or remote work policies. They're wrong. Mark Cruth, Atlassian's Head of Team Anywhere, has coached teams at Boeing, Nordstrom, and now one of the world's most distributed companies. In this episode, he reveals why the real culprits are transformation theater, lack of psychological safety, and unsustainable work cultures that push your best people toward the exit. We discuss: Why "we need to transform NOW" mindsets actually drive talent awayThe early warning signs that your company's way of working has become unsustainableHow lack of clear storytelling causes teams to wander in different directions (and eventually leave)What happens to retention when psychological safety disappearsThe biggest shift in how we work that will determine who keeps talent over the next 3-5 yearsIf you're wondering why your top performers are quietly job searching, this conversation will give you the answers your exit interviews won't.

    33 min

  6. 10/16/2025

    The AI Psychology Trap: What Smart Companies Miss That Costs Them Their Best People

    This interview with Stefano Puntoni explores the psychological impact of AI in the workplace — how its implementation affects employee well-being, motivation, and retention. It covers the hidden psychological disruptions AI creates, why people feel less threatened by AI than by human replacement, and how cost-cutting narratives harm morale. The discussion examines how AI influences employees’ sense of competence, autonomy, and relatedness, and offers practical guidance on implementing AI in a psychologically supportive way. It also explores how companies can build “AI-proof” skills like creativity and ethics — and what they must do now to avoid losing top talent in the AI-driven future.

    29 min
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Work is changing faster than most companies can keep up. On Work, Measured, behavioral scientist Dr. Nick Hobson and operator Imran Syed explore the hidden signals behind performance, leadership, workplace culture, burnout, hiring, employee retention, and the future of work. Nick brings the science of human behavior and organizational psychology. Imran brings real-world experience leading teams, scaling companies, and building AI for performance management. Together, they unpack how great teams are built, why people disengage, how AI is reshaping work, and what drives high performance.

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  • Creator
    Hatchproof
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    6
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Hatchproof
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    Work, Measured