Your Way Back

Mary Beth Gonzalez

Your Way Back is for people who sense there is more they can do to support their healing. If you’re facing illness, chronic stress, or simply don’t feel like your body is working the way it used to, this show offers calm, trustworthy guidance in a noisy health world. Each episode helps you understand how the body is designed to repair and rebalance — and what may be getting in the way. Hosted by Mary Beth Gonzalez, steward of The Gonzalez Protocol®, this podcast draws from decades of clinical experience developed by Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez in medical practice. For over forty years, this work has guided patients through personalized nutrition, detoxification, and whole-body support. Here, Mary Beth shares whole-body wisdom, nourishment principles, a faith-informed perspective, and practical ways to reduce burden and support the body’s natural capacity to heal. Your Way Back is about clear understanding, steady support, and giving your body what it needs to recover — so you can participate in your healing journey with intention instead of overwhelm. You are not broken. You are finding your way back to your health.

  1. 5d ago

    24: A Sabotaged Study "Proved" The Gonzalez Protocol® Doesn't Work. Here's the Truth - Dr. Colin A. Ross, MD

    Donate to The Nicholas Gonzalez Foundation to support our research efforts. In 1998, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) approved funding for a large-scale clinical study, in which The Gonzalez Protocol®, a nutritional-enzyme therapy, would be compared to the best available chemotherapy in the treatment of patients diagnosed with inoperable pancreatic cancer. But the federal trial that supposedly disproved The Gonzalez Protocol® enrolled 39 patients and only one of them actually completed the treatment. Put plainly: this trial never tested The Gonzalez Protocol®. All it measured was what happens when people don’t do it. Appearing for a second time is my guest, Dr. Colin A. Ross, a psychiatrist, researcher, and founding board member of The Nicholas Gonzalez Foundation. His work on the trophoblast model of cancer and the NCI trial gives him a rare command of both the science and the paperwork. Our conversation moves like a forensic walkthrough. I ask Dr. Ross to take the 2010 Journal of Clinical Oncology paper apart section by section, and he answers with the patient counts, the enrollment dates, the findings from the Office of Human Research Protections (OHRP), and the specific sentences the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) own spokesperson put in writing, while the trial was still running, documenting that the data was meaningless. The tone stays clinical. No outrage, no hype, just a researcher explaining what the record shows and where the published paper diverges from it. If you've ever been told this protocol failed, this episode might change your mind. You'll Learn: [0:00] Introduction [3:28] John Beard's embryology slides and what they revealed about cancer [13:56] The Gonzalez Protocol® sits at level two evidence, not fringe science [19:55] Inside the NCI's landmark trial design, before it fell apart [25:25] Dr. Gonzalez was locked out of screening his own patients [31:36] Intent-to-treat analysis destroyed a protocol that most patients never followed [34:46] The staging data that changed long after enrollment closed [40:15] The lead investigator wasn't even listed as an author [49:35] A six-step roadmap for how the trophoblast model should be researched [57:38] How to talk to your oncologist about weighing this decision Resources Mentioned: The Truth about the NCI-NCCAM Clinical Study by Gonzalez, N. | Article The Trophoblast and the Origins of Cancer by Nicholas J. Gonzalez, MD and Linda L. Isaacs, MD | Book Pancreatic Proteolytic Enzymes and Cancer: New Support for an Old Theory by Isaacs, L. | Article What Went Wrong by Nicholas J. Gonzalez, MD | Book Conquering Cancer Volume One by Nicholas J. Gonzalez, MD | Book One Man Alone: Dr. Kelley by Nicholas J. Gonzalez, MD | Book Find more from Dr. Ross: Methodological Flaws in the Chabot Trial of Pancreatic Enzymes for Cancer Therapy by Ross, C. | Article The Trophoblast Model of Cancer by Ross, C. | Article Future Research Directions for the Trophoblast Model of Cancer by Ross, C. | Article Case Examples from the Gonzalez Protocol for Treatment of Cancer by Ross, C. | PDF The Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma | Website Colin A. Ross, MD | LinkedIn | Books Find more from Mary Beth: The Gonzalez Protocol® | Website The Gonzalez Protocol® | Instagram Disclaimer: The information shared on Your Way Back is for education, not medical advice. Please work with your physician or healthcare provider when making decisions about your health.

  2. Jul 28

    23: How Stress and Trauma Feed Cancer with Brandon LaGreca, LAc.

    Explore The Gonzalez Protocol and discover how The Power of Prayer can support your healing journey. Consider donating to The Nicholas Gonzalez Foundation to help keep his legacy and work alive.  What if we've been treating cancer too narrowly? Brandon LaGreca is a licensed acupuncturist, integrative oncology expert, and author of three books on the parts of cancer most oncologists won't touch: trauma, chronic stress, and electromagnetic radiation. His own remission changed how he researches and what he asks cancer patients to consider. He works with the concept of the Type C personality, the role of adverse childhood experiences, and the image of a calm pond disrupted by a boulder that displaces the water. Brandon walks through research on how unresolved emotional history shapes the terrain in which a tumor grows, and he explains why traditional Chinese medicine had language for this centuries before Western science caught up. Then our conversation shifts to the phone on your nightstand, the router that never turns off, and the four corroborating lines of evidence he documents on EMFs and cancer risk. Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez joins us in a video clip to add his own perspective on the dangers of EMF.  This episode connects directly to the foundation of the Gonzalez Protocol, including the autonomic nervous system, the whole environment of the patient, and the belief that the tumor is a symptom, not the disease. You'll Learn: [0:00] Introduction [3:09] A stage four lymphoma diagnosis taught him what a decade of clinical practice never could [5:38] The Type C personality and why people pleasers are more prone to cancer [8:43] The ACE study links childhood trauma to dying twenty years earlier [10:17] The physiological conditions unresolved trauma creates for cancer [13:42] Top-down versus bottom-up trauma therapy, and why EMDR rewires the memory [18:41] Chronic stress erodes the terrain through cortisol, coping habits, and compliance [21:59] The yin and yang of cancer: the how versus the why [25:11] Toxic positivity versus genuine mindset work, and being at peace with dying [32:21] The four corroborating lines of evidence that EMFs damage human cells [36:11] The highest-impact EMF changes you can make tonight without gutting your life [49:59] Brandon's advice to every newly diagnosed cancer patient: slow down Resources Mentioned: The Dangers of Electromagnetic Field Exposure | YouTube Is 5G the Problem? Or Is ‘Antenna Densification’? by Camilla Rees, MBA | Article Collection of Books by Our Patients | Books To contact Brandon and explore his books, visit his website here. Find more from Brandon: Brandon LaGreca, LAc | Website Empowered Patient Blog | Blog Cancer and EMF Radiation by Brandon LaGreca | Book Cancer, Stress & Mindset by Brandon LaGreca | Book Cancer, Trauma & Emotions by Brandon LaGreca | Book Find more from Mary Beth: The Gonzalez Protocol® | Website The Gonzalez Protocol® | Instagram Join the Truly Thrive Membership for just $60 annually, and get full access to exclusive members-only content, including bonus content and product coupons. You'll experience how The Gonzalez Protocol® is helping people understand the root causes of disease and live their lives to the fullest. Step into a new paradigm of medicine where ancient nutritional wisdom and modern science converge. Disclaimer: The information shared on Your Way Back is for education, not medical advice. Please work with your physician or healthcare provider when making decisions about your health.

  3. Jul 21

    22: His Light, Our Hands: Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez' Legacy

    To help keep Dr. Gonzalez's legacy alive, especially on this 11th anniversary of his passing, consider donating to The Nicholas Gonzalez Foundation. You can also explore The Gonzalez Protocol®, discover books and resources at New Spring Press, and find personalized guidance at the Gonzalez Guidance Group.  Eleven years ago, I lost my dear husband and made a promise: to keep his work and legacy alive for every patient who still needs it.  Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez was my husband, and a physician who treated patients others had given up on. His story is the reason this show exists. Six weeks after we met, I asked him plainly where I fit in a life already so claimed. His answer was immediate: God, then me, then his patients, then his country. I never doubted it. Not once. Nick was not an easy man to love. The size of his calling left room for little else, and we chose it together anyway. This episode is personal. It's about a man who refused to back down when it cost him, who carried hope for people who couldn't carry it themselves, and what it means to keep answering to him eleven years later. If you found your way here through his work, through a patient, through a book, through a moment when everything changed, there's a reason. Let’s talk about it. You'll Learn: [0:00] Introduction [2:23] Why Dr. Gonzalez told patients their bodies weren’t broken beyond repair [4:13] Learning to live inside the question when there are no answers [6:39] Regret as an invitation, not a punishment [9:44] Be that person for someone: how his light stays on Resources Mentioned: The Nicholas Gonzalez Foundation | Website Gonzalez Guidance Group | Website New Spring Press | Website Find more from Mary Beth: The Gonzalez Protocol® | Website The Gonzalez Protocol® | Instagram Join the Truly Thrive Membership for just $60 annually, and get full access to exclusive members-only content, including bonus content and product coupons. You'll experience how The Gonzalez Protocol® is helping people understand the root causes of disease and live their lives to the fullest. Step into a new paradigm of medicine where ancient nutritional wisdom and modern science converge. Disclaimer: The information shared on Your Way Back is for education, not medical advice. Please work with your physician or healthcare provider when making decisions about your health.

  4. Jul 14

    21: Carol Alt: What Long-Term Healing Really Requires

    Apply to work with a Certified Gonzalez Doctor here. Carol Alt has spent decades proving that discipline leads to physical and spiritual transformation, and it's always worth the challenge. Carol is a highly recognized supermodel, actress, and longtime voice in raw foods and wellness. Her decades on The Gonzalez Protocol® give her a rare vantage point on what long-term healing asks of you. Her story doesn't follow the arc most people expect. The rollercoaster she describes is the part of the healing journey that almost nobody talks about honestly. Freedom isn't found in skipping the rules; it's in not becoming a slave to them. And she's learned the hard way that not everyone in your life can come with you. Carol is also candid about her friendship with Dr. Gonzalez, the questions she pushed back with, the case studies he sent her, and the forewords he wrote for her three raw cookbooks.  If you've ever wondered what it's like to stick to protocol for decades in an industry obsessed with speed and appearance, listen closely to how she talks about the bricks in the wall. You'll Learn: [0:00] Introduction [3:55] Setting the record straight on Dr. Gonzalez's approach to healing [7:13] The diet-first protocol that changed how Carol looked and felt [13:06] Her 25-day cycle felt like nirvana, not deprivation [15:21] Dr. Gonzalez's menopause comment that stuck with her forever [17:01] Detoxing changed the way she saw and greeted strangers [20:59] Health is built brick by brick, not overnight [24:45] The discipline that creates freedom instead of punishment [31:56] She had to cut people out to keep healing Follow Carol on Instagram to tune in to her show, Tea Time. Find more from Carol: Carol Alt | Website Carol Alt’s Raw Food Cookbooks, with expanded forewords by Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez: The Raw 50 | Book | Expanded Foreword Easy Sexy Raw | Book | Expanded Foreword Eating in the Raw | Book | Expanded Foreword Find more from Mary Beth: The Gonzalez Protocol® | Website The Gonzalez Protocol® | Instagram Join the Truly Thrive Membership for just $60 annually, and get full access to exclusive members-only content, including bonus content and product coupons. You'll experience how The Gonzalez Protocol® is helping people understand the root causes of disease and live their lives to the fullest. Step into a new paradigm of medicine where ancient nutritional wisdom and modern science converge. Disclaimer: The information shared on Your Way Back is for education, not medical advice. Please work with your physician or healthcare provider when making decisions about your health.

  5. Jul 7

    20: Why We Never Recommend a Vegan Diet for Cancer Healing

    Take the Gonzalez Metabolic Type Test to stop guessing and start aligning your nutrition with your metabolic pattern. For the patient who has been told a plant-only diet will save them, this episode is the conversation no one else is willing to have. I'm addressing going vegan not from opinion, trends, or ideology, but from history, biochemistry, clinical outcomes, and the metabolic reality of what someone with cancer actually needs. As the wife of the late Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez, I'm drawing on decades of documented case work from Dr. William Donald Kelley, Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez himself, and our certified Gonzalez doctors to explain why this matters so much. There's a reason the first weeks on a plant-only diet feel like relief. There's also a reason that feeling doesn't last. A depleted cancer patient eating from a depleted food supply, then removing the most nutrient-dense category available, is not a neutral choice. Conventional produce carries its own load, while metabolic type changes everything about what a body can actually utilize. Dr. Weston A. Price's global research, Dr. Gonzalez's clinical observations, mainstream oncology nutrition standards, and over 160 documented patient cases all point in the same direction. If you've built your healing plan around a belief, this episode asks you to examine the belief honestly. Not to shame the choice, but to look at what your body truly needs. You'll Learn: [0:00] Introduction [2:10] When cancer patients arrive depleted, cleansing protocols starve them further [3:43] Why vegan diets feel like relief in the first weeks, and what that feeling actually masks [8:12] The predictable trajectory from week-one energy to month-six muscle loss and deficiency [9:43] Weston A. Price’s findings, after a decade searching every continent for a thriving vegan culture [11:38] Why traditional cultures reserved organ meats, liver, and bone marrow for the sick and pregnant [14:47] Dr. Gonzalez on why Pritikin, Ornish, and Gerson got the universal diet question wrong [18:26] The pesticide trap hiding inside conventional vegan protocols built on soy, corn, and grains [21:48] What 160 documented Gonzalez cases reveal about animal foods and difficult cancer prognoses [23:41] Parasympathetic-dominant patients with blood cancers get worse on alkaline-forming vegan diets [29:20] How to find out whether your metabolic type calls for plants, animal foods, or both Resources Mentioned: Gonzalez Metabolic Type Test | Website Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston A. Price | Book Nutrition and the Autonomic Nervous System by Dr. Nicholas J. Gonzalez | Book Proof of Concept by Dr. Nicholas J. Gonzalez | Book One Man Alone: Dr. Kelley by Dr. Nicholas J. Gonzalez | Book Conquering Cancer Volume One by Dr. Nicholas J. Gonzalez | Book  Conquering Cancer Volume Two by Dr. Nicholas J. Gonzalez | Book The Gerson Therapy | Website Price Pottenger, Ancestral Nutrition Foundation | Website Related Episodes of Your Way Back: The Perfect Diet Doesn’t Exist | The Truth About Metabolic Individuality | Podcast How to Find the Right Food for Your Body | Podcast Find more from Mary Beth: The Gonzalez Protocol® | Website The Gonzalez Protocol® | Instagram Join the Truly Thrive Membership for just $60 annually, and get full access to exclusive members-only content, including bonus content and product coupons. You'll experience how The Gonzalez Protocol® is helping people understand the root causes of disease and live their lives to the fullest. Step into a new paradigm of medicine where ancient nutritional wisdom and modern science converge. Disclaimer: The information shared on Your Way Back is for education, not medical advice. Please work with your physician or healthcare provider when making decisions about your health.

  6. Jun 30

    19: What Doctors Rarely Tell Patients about Healing with Dr. Andre Williams, MD

    Ready for a different conversation about your cancer care? Apply to be on The Gonzalez Protocol® and meet a doctor who listens first. Most oncology conversations focus on killing cancer cells, but Dr. Williams says that's the smallest part of what actually heals a patient. What if everything you were told about healing was only half the story? My returning guest is Dr. Andre Williams, board-certified in conventional oncology and one of a small number of physicians in the world trained in the Gonzalez Protocol®, which means he has sat on both sides of the line and can speak honestly about what each side misses. The language inside an oncology appointment matters more than most patients realize. Words like survival, battle, and attack shift a patient away from the body's own capacity to repair. Four things underpin every cancer recovery, according to Dr. Williams, and three of them rarely come up in a standard appointment. One case stays with me: a nurse who slipped into a coma during treatment, and the simple intervention at her bedside that revealed the difference between treating cells and treating a person. Then there's the question of why patients who ask more questions get labeled non-compliant, and what that label is actually protecting. This one sits with you. You'll Learn: [0:00] Introduction [1:52] Why modern medicine has lost sight of the body's innate capacity to heal [4:37] The four pillars every cancer recovery requires [6:47] What doctors get wrong about the liver, kidneys, and detoxification in cancer patients [8:56] Why daily discipline beats miracle therapies, and how protocol restores the body's diurnal rhythm [12:18] Cognitive dissonance in medicine, and why doctors resist nutrition as central to healing [15:31] Why patients who ask for more get labeled difficult, and the Truman Show problem in oncology [18:45] The comatose nurse, a fleet enema, and what it taught Dr. Williams about treating the whole body [23:14] The disturbing trend in patient education, and what oncologists aren’t explaining [27:36] The maid with breast cancer who changed how Dr. Williams sees every patient [32:35] A closing message for patients who refuse to stop believing in their body's capacity Resources Mentioned: Collection of Books by Our Patients | Books Other Episodes of Your Way Back with Dr. Andre Williams: The Surprising Link Between Pregnancy and Cancer | Podcast What Patients Say After a Cancer Diagnosis: Fear, Myths, and Hard Truths | Podcast Find more from Dr. Andre: Dr. Andre Williams | Intro Video Dr. Andre Williams | Facebook Dr. Andre Williams | Instagram Healthy Reasonings | Podcast Teshuva Wellness | Website  Find more from Mary Beth: The Gonzalez Protocol® | Website The Gonzalez Protocol® | Instagram Join the Truly Thrive Membership for just $60 annually, and get full access to exclusive members-only content, including bonus content and product coupons. You'll experience how The Gonzalez Protocol® is helping people understand the root causes of disease and live their lives to the fullest. Step into a new paradigm of medicine where ancient nutritional wisdom and modern science converge. Disclaimer: The information shared on Your Way Back is for education, not medical advice. Please work with your physician or healthcare provider when making decisions about your health.

  7. Jun 23

    18: "There Is No Alternative Medicine" with Dr. Colin Ross, MD

    Donate to the Nicholas Gonzalez Foundation so we can fund the research needed to advance this work. Apply to work with one of our Certified Gonzalez Doctors here.  We always hear the term “alternative” medicine… but alternative to what? The 1899 Merck Manual listed herbs, plant compounds, cannabis, and nutritional therapies as accepted medical treatments, and almost none of them disappeared because they stopped working. My guest is Dr. Colin A. Ross, MD, a psychiatrist, researcher, and founding board member of the Nicholas Gonzalez Foundation, who has published scientific articles on the Gonzalez Protocol® and the trophoblast model of cancer. My late husband, Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez, used to say there is no alternative medicine, only medicine that hasn't been accepted yet. That line sits at the center of this conversation. We get into the history of how the word "alternative" became code for flaky, who benefits from that framing, and why nutrition got pushed to the margins of medical training. Dr. Ross shares what he was actually taught about nutrition in medical school, what the data on statins and vitamin D really show, and how patented "natural" drugs reveal the financial logic underlying it all. This isn't a rejection of modern medicine. It's a closer look at the labels, the language, and the economics shaping what patients are even allowed to consider. You'll Learn: [0:00] Introduction [3:19] Why "alternative" really means flaky, fringe, and unscientific in mainstream medical culture [5:01] How the Flexner Report and big pharma money rewrote what counts as real medicine [7:18] The American diet is driving disease, and what public health actually fixed [9:15] The 20-minute nutrition lecture that defined an entire generation of doctors [12:44] The St. John's wort study that matched Zoloft and why nobody talked about it [18:09] How the big lie works and what the pandemic revealed about medical propaganda [22:35] Why doctors chase your LDL while ignoring the vitamin D deficiency in two-thirds of Americans [27:49] Behind the scenes of the Nicholas Gonzalez Foundation and the funding it still needs Resources Mentioned: The Trophoblast and the Origins of Cancer: One Solution to the Medical Enigma of our Times by Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez | Book Collection of Books by Our Patients | Books Find more from Dr. Ross: The Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma | Website Colin A. Ross, MD | LinkedIn | Books Find more from Mary Beth: The Gonzalez Protocol® | Website The Gonzalez Protocol® | Instagram Join the Truly Thrive Membership for just $60 annually, and get full access to exclusive members-only content, including bonus content and product coupons. You'll experience how The Gonzalez Protocol® is helping people understand the root causes of disease and live their lives to the fullest. Step into a new paradigm of medicine where ancient nutritional wisdom and modern science converge. Disclaimer: The information shared on Your Way Back is for education, not medical advice. Please work with your physician or healthcare provider when making decisions about your health.

  8. Jun 16

    17: What Long-Term Cancer Survivors Have in Common: Dr. Sarper Diler MD

    Apply to meet with a Certified Gonzalez Doctor like Prof. Dr. Sarper Diler here. If you're the kind of patient who tries something for two weeks and then switches when you read a new article at 2 AM, this conversation is about you. Two patients can walk in with the same diagnosis, the same stage, similar treatment plans, and end up in completely different places. The cancers vary. The stages vary. But across pancreatic, breast, lung, lymphoma, leukemia, melanoma, colon, and prostate cancer, certain patterns keep showing up among the people who outlive expectations, and they're not the patterns most people would guess. My guest in this episode is our lead doctor, Prof. Dr. Sarper Diler, MD, a member of the Medical Council for the Ovital Institute and a certified Gonzalez doctor. He's spent years watching what separates long-term survivors from patients who decline quickly. What he describes isn't dramatic; it's more subtle than that. Decisiveness instead of dabbling. Consistency instead of intensity. Treating the body as a system instead of chasing the tumor alone. He's blunt about what derails people, too. Protocol hopping. Scan panic. Family doubt. Quitting during healing reactions. Trying everything at once until nothing reads as a clean signal. If you've been told outcomes are mostly random, this conversation will challenge that. The patterns are there. Whether you act on them is the real question. You’ll Learn: [0:00] Introduction [5:10] The decisive moment that separates survivors from passive patients [7:52] Why shrinking the tumor isn't enough if the terrain stays the same [12:10] How functionally malnourished patients are starving despite eating perfectly [15:57] The warning patterns that show up in poor outcome cases [17:13] How protocol hopping and family doubt derail healing [23:13] Why fear-driven decisions create instability and six-months-too-late commitments [27:15] Healing reactions, scan panic, and social pressure: the three sabotage points [30:05] The spreadsheet patient running 14 protocols and going nowhere [32:56] Why strategy is not the opposite of hope, it's how hope becomes a plan Resources Mentioned: Proof of Concept by Dr. Nicholas J. Gonzalez | Book Conquering Cancer Volume One by Dr. Nicholas J. Gonzalez | Book  Conquering Cancer Volume Two by Dr. Nicholas J. Gonzalez | Book Collection of Books by Our Patients | Books Find more from Dr. Sarper Diler: Dr. Sarper Diler | Website Find more from Mary Beth: The Gonzalez Protocol® | Website The Gonzalez Protocol® | Instagram Join the Truly Thrive Membership for just $60 annually, and get full access to exclusive members-only content, including bonus content and product coupons. You'll experience how The Gonzalez Protocol® is helping people understand the root causes of disease and live their lives to the fullest. Step into a new paradigm of medicine where ancient nutritional wisdom and modern science converge. Disclaimer: The information shared on Your Way Back is for education, not medical advice. Please work with your physician or healthcare provider when making decisions about your health.

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Your Way Back is for people who sense there is more they can do to support their healing. If you’re facing illness, chronic stress, or simply don’t feel like your body is working the way it used to, this show offers calm, trustworthy guidance in a noisy health world. Each episode helps you understand how the body is designed to repair and rebalance — and what may be getting in the way. Hosted by Mary Beth Gonzalez, steward of The Gonzalez Protocol®, this podcast draws from decades of clinical experience developed by Dr. Nicholas Gonzalez in medical practice. For over forty years, this work has guided patients through personalized nutrition, detoxification, and whole-body support. Here, Mary Beth shares whole-body wisdom, nourishment principles, a faith-informed perspective, and practical ways to reduce burden and support the body’s natural capacity to heal. Your Way Back is about clear understanding, steady support, and giving your body what it needs to recover — so you can participate in your healing journey with intention instead of overwhelm. You are not broken. You are finding your way back to your health.