But You Look So Good

But You Look So Good Podcast
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Two psychologists on a mission to illuminate the realities of living with chronic health conditions. Hosted by Sally Shaw and Seona Ilalio, both living with chronic conditions themselves. They lead Livology, a private practice specialising in psychological support for those navigating chronic health challenges. Tune in to hear candid conversations and professional insights designed to create community and connection within the chronic health conditions population.

  1. An Interview with Chris: MS, Sport and Rebuilding Identity

    1 day ago

    An Interview with Chris: MS, Sport and Rebuilding Identity

    Today we're sitting down with Chris Henderson, a man who in 2017 went from playing football in regional Victoria to sitting in a hospital bed being told he had multiple sclerosis, and then being told he'd never play sport again. For someone whose identity was built around sport, that news was devastating. But Chris found his way back to sport and discovered a completely different version of himself, one who plays wheelchair AFL professionally, coaches, captains the Geelong Basketball Club, and has represented Australia internationally.  He's also the founder of Freedom Sports, an organisation taking wheelchair sports into schools across Victoria, reaching more than 10,000 students last year alone. But before any of that, there was a time when Chris told almost nobody about his diagnosis, because saying the words out loud made it real, and every time he tried, he cried. This is a conversation about identity, grief, masculinity, sport, and vulnerability. We hope you enjoy listening to Chris's story ⁠⁠⁠Livology (Psychology - Private Practice)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠MS: Get Your Head Around It! (Online Course)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠But You’ll Be OK (Online Course)⁠ ⁠Webinars and Resources⁠ If you need any support after listening to our podcast, you can contact Lifeline in Australia at 13 11 14, available 24/7. For support in other locations, please visit⁠ ⁠Befrienders Worldwide⁠⁠. ⁠⁠Instagram @butyoulooksogoodpodcast⁠⁠

    40 min

  2. 4 days ago

    Understanding Your Nervous System: Flight, Fight, Freeze and Fawn

    Living with a chronic health condition can feel like you're constantly fighting your own body. But what if many of the challenges you experience—fatigue, pain, brain fog, anxiety, overwhelm, poor sleep, and even burnout—are connected to the way your nervous system is responding to ongoing stress and illness? In this episode, Seona and Sally explore the nervous system in simple, practical terms and discuss how understanding it can help people living with chronic illness respond to their symptoms with greater compassion, flexibility, and confidence. ⁠⁠⁠Livology (Psychology - Private Practice)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠MS: Get Your Head Around It! (Online Course)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠But You’ll Be OK (Online Course)⁠ ⁠Webinars and Resources⁠ If you need any support after listening to our podcast, you can contact Lifeline in Australia at 13 11 14, available 24/7. For support in other locations, please visit⁠ ⁠Befrienders Worldwide⁠⁠. ⁠⁠Instagram @butyoulooksogoodpodcast⁠⁠

    36 min
  3. Anne’s Voice: The invisible work of Type 1 Diabetes

    18 June

    Anne’s Voice: The invisible work of Type 1 Diabetes

    Welcome to Anne's Story. Today, you'll be hearing Anne Freeman's voice and story. Anne was 21 years old when she was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes. What followed was not only the challenge of learning to manage a lifelong condition, but also the emotional and psychological impact of adapting to a future she had never imagined for herself. In this Voices story, Anne reflects on the realities of living with a condition that never takes a day off. She speaks candidly about diagnosis, identity, motherhood, resilience, and the invisible work that goes into managing Type 1 Diabetes every single day. As with all Voices stories, this is an opportunity to hear directly from someone living the experience—because behind every diagnosis is a person, a life, and a story worth hearing. We are incredibly grateful to Anne for sharing hers. This is Anne's Voice. Anne's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/annefreemanwrites Anne's Website - for books, events, workshops and more - https://www.annefreeman.com.au/ ⁠⁠⁠Livology (Psychology - Private Practice)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠MS: Get Your Head Around It! (Online Course)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠But You’ll Be OK (Online Course)⁠ Webinars and Resources⁠ If you need any support after listening to our podcast, you can contact Lifeline in Australia at 13 11 14, available 24/7. For support in other locations, please visit⁠ ⁠Befrienders Worldwide⁠⁠. ⁠⁠Instagram @butyoulooksogoodpodcast⁠⁠

    28 min

  4. 15 June

    Toxic People and Protecting Your Wellbeing

    Living with a chronic health condition means your energy is precious. So what happens when the people around you leave you feeling drained, criticised, guilty, or emotionally exhausted?  In this episode, psychologists Dr Sally Shaw and Seona Ilalio explore the impact of toxic relationships on our mental and physical health. From friends and family members to health professionals, they discuss how to recognise unhealthy relationship patterns, the questions to ask yourself when assessing a relationship, and practical strategies for setting boundaries and protecting your wellbeing.  You'll learn how to identify the people who support your health, limit exposure to those who don't, and give yourself permission to prioritise your own needs. Because sometimes self-care means carefully choosing who gets access to your energy. ⁠⁠⁠Livology (Psychology - Private Practice)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠MS: Get Your Head Around It! (Online Course)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠But You’ll Be OK (Online Course)⁠ ⁠Webinars and Resources⁠ If you need any support after listening to our podcast, you can contact Lifeline in Australia at 13 11 14, available 24/7. For support in other locations, please visit⁠ ⁠Befrienders Worldwide⁠⁠. ⁠⁠Instagram @butyoulooksogoodpodcast⁠⁠

    33 min
  5. An Interview with Lucy: Ehlers Danlos Syndrome

    11 June

    An Interview with Lucy: Ehlers Danlos Syndrome

    Meet Lucy, a research psychologist from the UK living with Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (EDS), chronic migraine, and persistent pain that went undiagnosed for more than two decades. From painful periods and joint pain to migraines, digestive issues, and fatigue, Lucy spent years collecting diagnoses without anyone connecting the dots. Receiving an EDS diagnosis finally brought answers—but also a profound shift in how she understood herself and her future. In this thoughtful and honest conversation, Lucy shares what it means to live with chronic illness while building a meaningful life. We discuss grief, acceptance, pacing, the constant "pain noise" of living in an unpredictable body, and the deliberate choices she makes to prioritise what matters most. This is a powerful conversation about resilience, self-compassion, and learning to live well alongside chronic illness. We hope you enjoy.

    43 min

  6. 8 June

    "Less Than"

    One of the most painful experiences many people living with chronic illness, disability, mental health challenges, neurodivergence, grief, or major life setbacks experience is the feeling of being somehow "less than." Less successful.Less productive.Less capable.Less independent.Less worthy. In this episode, we unpack where this feeling comes from, why it is so common, and how much of it is shaped by the messages we absorb from society rather than objective truth. We'll explore the hidden rules many of us have been taught about worth, success, independence, productivity, relationships, and achievement, and what happens when illness, disability, or life circumstances make those rules impossible to follow. Most importantly, we'll discuss how to challenge these beliefs and begin building a sense of worth that isn't dependent on what we can produce, achieve, or contribute.

    36 min
  7. An interview with Becky: MS, Single & Social Media

    4 June

    An interview with Becky: MS, Single & Social Media

    Today on But You Look So Good, we're sitting down with Becky, a woman who has spent her entire adult life single, and along the way, received a life-changing diagnosis of multiple sclerosis. While Becky has a close and supportive network of family and friends, living with a chronic health condition has meant facing many of life's biggest challenges independently. From managing symptoms and medical appointments, to buying a home on her own and making decisions about the future. There-- These are the realities that come with carrying so much responsibility yourself. But this isn't just a conversation about the hard parts. What began as Becky sharing snippets of her life online grew into something much bigger. By speaking openly about the realities of being single with MS, she created a community where people feel seen, understood, and less alone. Today, she has a deeply engaged following and continues to have honest conversations about life, health, and hope. In this episode, we explore Becky's diagnosis journey, the experience of living with a chronic health condition while single, the challenges and unexpected gifts that she's encountered along the way, and what she hopes for her future. This is Becky's story, and we think you're going to love it. Becky's Instagram: @singlewithms ⁠⁠⁠Livology (Psychology - Private Practice)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠MS: Get Your Head Around It! (Online Course)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠But You’ll Be OK (Online Course)⁠ ⁠ Webinars and Resources⁠ If you need any support after listening to our podcast, you can contact Lifeline in Australia at 13 11 14, available 24/7. For support in other locations, please visit⁠ ⁠Befrienders Worldwide⁠⁠. ⁠⁠Instagram @butyoulooksogoodpodcast⁠⁠

    41 min

  8. 1 June

    Putting the Chronic in Chronic Illness: How to cope with knowing it will never get better

    In our 100th episode of But You Look So Good, we reflect on the journey of creating this podcast as two psychologists living with MS — what we’ve learned, what has surprised us, and the incredible community that has formed around honest conversations about chronic illness. We then dive into one of the hardest realities many people face: the difference between acute illness and chronic illness. Society teaches us to expect recovery, but what happens when symptoms don’t go away? How do we psychologically adjust to uncertainty, loss, identity changes, and the grief of realising life may not “go back to normal”? In this episode, we explore the major psychological challenges that emerge in chronic illness and share three practical coping strategies to help people “deal with the chronic” — including acceptance, grief, and building flexible hope. ⁠⁠⁠Livology (Psychology - Private Practice)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠MS: Get Your Head Around It! (Online Course)⁠⁠⁠ ⁠But You’ll Be OK (Online Course)⁠ ⁠Webinars and Resources⁠ If you need any support after listening to our podcast, you can contact Lifeline in Australia at 13 11 14, available 24/7. For support in other locations, please visit⁠ ⁠Befrienders Worldwide⁠⁠. ⁠⁠Instagram @butyoulooksogoodpodcast⁠⁠

    35 min
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Two psychologists on a mission to illuminate the realities of living with chronic health conditions. Hosted by Sally Shaw and Seona Ilalio, both living with chronic conditions themselves. They lead Livology, a private practice specialising in psychological support for those navigating chronic health challenges. Tune in to hear candid conversations and professional insights designed to create community and connection within the chronic health conditions population.

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  • Creator
    But You Look So Good Podcast
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    109
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    Explicit
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