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Who said nothing ever happens in Brisbane? Join hosts Jessica Kate and Ellen Rose as they dig up the skeletons buried in our own back yard and take you on a macabre tour around Australia’s third largest city - home to the Stefan Needle, the Brown Snake, the crushing feeling that you’re trapped in a dead-end town that you can never leave, and some of the most brutal murders in Australian history.

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Who said nothing ever happens in Brisbane? Join hosts Jessica Kate and Ellen Rose as they dig up the skeletons buried in our own back yard and take you on a macabre tour around Australia’s third largest city - home to the Stefan Needle, the Brown Snake, the crushing feeling that you’re trapped in a dead-end town that you can never leave, and some of the most brutal murders in Australian history.

    Fred and Rosemary West

    Fred and Rosemary West

    Fred and Rosemary West were coooooooked, mates. This episode was a request from our beloved patron Lily and let me tell ya, we don’t trust her any more! Massive listener warnings for murder, torture, rape, sexual assault, and child abuse. We could barely get through telling this story, we understand if you can’t get through listening to it.
    Fred and Rose West committed at least twelve murders, possibly more. The West abducted women and subjected them to hours of sexual torture before murdering them; they killed people who stayed in their lodging house, including a heavily pregnant woman and her unborn baby; and they even killed their own children. Fred and Rose subjected most of their many children to heinous, prolonged incest and sexual assault, and joked about them staying in line lest they end up ‘under the patio’ like their sister, Heather. Heather had told her classmates about the physical and sexual abuse that she had suffered from her parents. She was trying as hard as she could to get a job that would take her out of the house. When her siblings returned home one day, Heather was missing, and they were told she’d accepted a job as a chalet cleaner in Torquay. 
    But Fred and Rose’s conflicting stories about Heather’s disappearance made neighbours and estranged family members suspicious. The police were contacted, and they would eventually search the West’s home. There, they found Heather’s dismembered body buried under the patio, as well as the remains of eight other women and girls that Fred and Rose had killed, after subjecting them to horrific torture for their own sadistic sexual gratification. 
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/horrifying-threat-killer-fred-west-18331879
    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/fred-and-rosemary-wests-daughter-describes-what-it-was-like-growing-up-with-serial-killer-parents/news-story/542a41fbae1dd47b20367fe49cdedecc
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_West
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_West
    https://www.amazon.com.au/Love-Always-Mum-xxx-surviving-ebook/dp/B07GRDSC6G
     
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    Lyn Dawson

    Lyn Dawson

    This episode we cover the murder of Lynette Dawson. Although officially a “disappearance”, it has long been the belief of both the police and the general public that Lyn Dawson was murdered by her husband Chris Dawson, who had been having a sexual relationship with his sixteen-year-old student for eighteen months by the time of Lyn’s “disappearance”. 


     
    The case was covered in exhaustive detail by The Teacher’s Pet podcast, presented by The Australian. The extent of Chris’ abusive behaviour, his sordid and disgusting relationship with the student he was duty-bound to care for, and his apparent lack of interest in his missing wife was examined, with no stone left unturned. The podcast brought new light to a case that was generally known by Aussie true crime buffs, but unknown to the general public. Now, 37 years after Lyn went missing, Chris has finally been arrested for her murder, and 27 million people around the globe are waiting with baited breath to see if justice will finally be served for Lyn. 
    Our main source this week was, of course, The Teacher’s Pet. Find it wherever you get your podcasts or at https://www.theaustralian.com.au/the-teachers-pet
    The majority of our other sources this week were found at The Australian, which sadly you need a subscription to access. We paid the $18 a month for premium content but here’s some good free articles to get an understanding.
    For a timeline of events, go here https://www.smh.com.au/national/timeline-of-the-disappearance-of-lynette-dawson-20181205-p50kbk.html
    Info about Chris’ arrest can be found here https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/dec/06/chris-dawson-to-be-charged-with-wife-lyns-after-extradition-to-nsw
    An in-depth overview of the case can be found here https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-10/australian-story-who-killed-lyn-dawson/10213690
     
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    Tanya Day

    Tanya Day

    Aunty Tanya Day was a 55 year old Yorta Yorta woman who died while in police custody after being arrested for public intoxication while on a train. Tanya was drunk and asleep on a VLine train headed to Melbourne when a ticket inspector decided she was unruly and called the police. Tanya was taken to Castlemaine Police Station, where she was left in a cell and check on for a total of less than thirty seconds in the four hours she was held there. Tanya sustained a serious head injury that caused a cerebral bleed and her eventual death. #JusticeForTanyaDay
    EPISODE NOTES:
    If the recommendations put forth thirty years earlier during the Royal Commission, and thirty years after Tanya’s own uncle Harrison Day died in similar circumstances while in police custody, Tanya Day would still be alive right now. Thirty years after the Commissioner recommended that the “crime” of public intoxication be removed from the Criminal Code, yet another Aboriginal woman died in custody, with her only crime having a drunken kip on the train.
    You can read more about the case and view the CCTV footage of Tanya here, but please be warned, it’s not an easy watch https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-06/cctv-footage-of-tanya-day-released-by-coroner/11471018
    You can read the finding from the Coroner’s Court here https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-04/Finding%20-%20Tanya%20Day-%20COR%202017%206424%20-%20AMENDED%2017042020.pdf
    The Department of Public Prosecutions decided not to proceed with a criminal case. You can read more about that decision here https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/no-charges-to-be-laid-against-police-after-death-of-indigenous-woman-tanya-day-20200826-p55pj8.html
    The Facebook and Instagram accounts for #JusticeForTanyaDay can be found here https://www.facebook.com/Justicefortanyaday/ and here https://www.instagram.com/justicefortanyaday/?hl=en
     
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    • 1 hr 8 min
    The Bathurst War

    The Bathurst War

    Over three hundred Frontier Wars were fought in Australia as the Indigenous people of this land tried valiantly to resist the invasion of British Colonialists. The Bathurst War was one such war, fought by the Wiradjuri nation in what is now known as Bathurst, led by the Aboriginal resistance leader Windradyne.


    In the mid-1820s, the slow erosion of the Wiradjuri's sovereignty by the colonisers was rapidly increased by Sir Thomas Brisbane, who authorised a large number of land grants in the Wiradjuri nation. With this influx of white settlers, the Wiradjuri’s land was being degraded, their sacred sites were torn up, and their natural resources were vanishing. After a violent encounter with a potato farmer over a "misunderstanding" resulted in the deaths of several Wiradjuri people, one of the survivors, Windradyne, decided that enough was enough. The Wiradjuri formed a resistance movement and lead a series of guerrilla-style attacks against the invaders, which escalated until martial law was declared, giving the invaders legal sanction to hunt and kill Aboriginals.


    The Bathurst War was only one of several hundred Frontier Wars fought by the Indigenous people of this land. And in many ways, these wars continue – sovereignty of this land has never been ceded, and the Indigenous people of Australia have been systematically slaughtered and made to watch as an invading force has stolen and destroyed their land.
    We applaud in movies like Star Wars when the Resistance fights off the evil Empire. So why are we so quick to sweep the Frontier Wars under the rug and pretend that our white ancestors were the good guys? (insert youknowwhy.gif here).


    You can find out more about Wiradjuri resistance leader Windradyne here https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/631655491867/windradyne?fbclid=IwAR1yaEpos2JcYOM2joJUkC_3Hdyp-6_ZhB6VRhxgReHquBCV2MJLw-c6MQw


    To find out more about the Frontier Wars and view the map, go here https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/mar/04/the-killing-times-the-massacres-of-aboriginal-people-australia-must-confront?fbclid=IwAR1yaEpos2JcYOM2joJUkC_3Hdyp-6_ZhB6VRhxgReHquBCV2MJLw-c6MQw


    Watch the video of Windradyne’s descendants marking the anniversary of the declaration of martial law here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jux_MKtfObw&t=326s&fbclid=IwAR1yaEpos2JcYOM2joJUkC_3Hdyp-6_ZhB6VRhxgReHquBCV2MJLw-c6MQw


    We’ll probably never know the total death count of the Frontier Wars. Find out why that matters here http://www.maristfamily.com.au/resourcedownloads/why_indigenous_deaths_matters.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1yaEpos2JcYOM2joJUkC_3Hdyp-6_ZhB6VRhxgReHquBCV2MJLw-c6MQw
     
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    • 42 min
    The Death of John Pat, Part 2

    The Death of John Pat, Part 2

    This episode discusses Aboriginal people who have died.
    In this episode, we discuss the police’s attempt to cover up the finding of John Pat’s body, the subsequent investigation, trial, and the eventual Royal Commission into John Pat’s death.


    EPISODE NOTES:
    Much to the despair of John Pat’s friends and loved ones, no really satisfying conclusion into his death was reached. And the Royal Commission didn’t really change too much, either. Aboriginal people are still imprisoned at a rate far greater than non-Indigenous Australians, and Aboriginal deaths in custody is still a massive issue in Australia.
    You can read the entire commission into John Pat’s death here http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/IndigLRes/rciadic/individual/brm_jpp/
    You can also read a very excellent and necessary critique of the Commission into John Pat’s death here http://netk.net.au/Aboriginal/Aboriginal62.asp
    You can listen to an episode of The Signal discussing Indigenous deaths in custody here https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/the-signal/how-deaths-in-custody-happen/12341864
    And support the movement to #RaiseTheAge here https://www.raisetheage.org.au/


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    • 54 min
    The Death of John Pat

    The Death of John Pat

    WARNING: This episode discusses Aboriginal people who have died.
    In 1983, a sixteen-year-old Yindjibarndi boy named John Pat died in police custody after sustaining injuries in the course of a fistfight with the police. His death was one of several Indigenous deaths in custody that caused an uproar amongst Indigenous Australia who believed, quite rightly, that the police were unfairly targeting, using excessive force, and ultimately causing the deaths of a disproportionate number of Indigenous people in police custody. John Pat’s death was one of several deaths of Aboriginal people in custody that caused sufficient outrage to spark a Royal Commission
    EPISODE NOTES:
    With the Black Lives Matter movement gaining more ground than ever, it’s important to remember that police brutality doesn’t only happen in America. Australia has a long, dark history of heinous treatment of Indigenous Australians. Aboriginal deaths in custody is sadly only a part of the institutional racism that Indigenous Australians face. The death of John Pat, and of other Indigenous people we’ll be discussing in this season, was tragic, unnecessary, and was allowed to occur due to the systemic violence against Aboriginal people that has occurred virtually unchecked since colonisation.
    You can read the Commissioner’s report into John Pat’s death here http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/IndigLRes/rciadic/individual/brm_jpp/
    This article discusses John Pat’s death within the larger context of Aboriginal deaths in custody and the Royal Commission here https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/john-pats-death-in-custody-the-impetus-for-the-royal-commission/
    30 years after John Pat’s death, not much has changed. Read more here https://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/09/26/3856987.htm
    To learn about the Raise the Age movement, go here https://www.raisetheage.org.au/
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Customer Reviews

3.8 out of 5
170 Ratings

170 Ratings

J35513-1999 ,

Banger

this is one of my favourite podcasts ever. i absolutely LOVE when people give new perspective on cases i know about and tell me about ones i’ve never heard before! I really do feel like Ellen and Jess’s positivity and ability to crack a bit of a joke during the podcast is what makes it so good. i can really tell that you both are emotionally invested and really enjoy what you are doing! my one complaint is that the audio is a bit dodgy sometimes but Ellen did move interstate so it’s ok! Keep up that great work; i love it!

More followers9988 ,

Great true crime podcast

This podcast got recommended to me at the beginning of the year and now I’m absolutely in love with it. I’ve learnt so much about Australian true crime and it’s always so interesting. I love listening to Ellen and Jess, it honestly feels like I’m in the room with them. I would recommend this podcast to any true crime fans. Keep it up girls!

Levi4526 ,

Frustrating to listen to...

Have listened to you girls from the start and used to look forward to hearing your new episodes! Over the last few months however it has become increasingly frustrating listening to your comments about police, police brutality, along with your view about aboriginals in society and mental health in policing. I ask that you PLEASE, PLEASE educate yourselves about roles within the police that involve working in remote aboriginal communities (like Aurukun and Kowanyama). You would be surprised about how good the police engagement is in communities like that. Also, you seem unaware of the fact that there are actually mental health clinicians that drive around with police officers attending to mental health related calls to service... and lastly in regards to your comments about “police in full SWAT gear” at protests... please read into what the public safety response team is, and what their roles are within with Queensland police service. Jess - you have a stepfather who was / is a member of the service? Ask about these things....

Is there a problem with the “white people” / aboriginal people in Australia? Absolutely!! But it does not stop and start with police.. if anything, these days they are working harder to bridge that gap.

Again - absolutely loved what you guys did / have learnt about so many different crime stories from you.. but this is just growing increasingly frustrating..

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