Low libido after a baby or through menopause is one of the most common and least honestly discussed changes in a woman's life. In the 100th episode of The Hole Shebang, Kristen Parise welcomes back the guest who started it all, Dr. Nan Wise, cognitive neuroscientist and certified sex therapist, for the deep conversation they only grazed the first time. Together they look at why the postpartum months and the menopause years look so alike in the brain, what spontaneous and receptive desire really are, and why rebuilding pleasure outside the bedroom matters more than any pressure to have sex. If your desire has gone quiet and you have been told to just live with it, this episode explains what is actually happening and what you can do about it. This episode is brought to you by SRC Health. Shop SRC garments at blueberrytherapyshop.ca and use the code SRC15 for 15% off. In This Episode [00:21] Why Nan is the perfect Episode 100 guest, and why the first conversation is still the show's most downloaded [01:08] Postpartum and menopause as the two most vulnerable thresholds, and how the chemistry of caretaking quiets desire [05:25] Spontaneous desire versus receptive desire, and why arousal can come before wanting [08:05] Kindling a fire: making desire intentional instead of waiting to feel horny [10:30] The seeking system and the pleasure playground, moving sex beyond genitals and friction [11:52] Pleasure outside the bedroom: savouring, gratitude, mindfulness, imagery, and self compassion [20:49] Why some older adults have better sex, and why connection beats performance [24:12] Donating orgasms to science: what Nan's fMRI research found about the aroused brain [30:54] Entrainment and the get in touch plan for couples, including erectile changes [42:14] What chronically broken sleep does to dopamine and pleasure, and how to rest anyway What You Will Learn Listeners will come away understanding that a drop in desire after a baby or in menopause is normal, common, and workable, not a personal failing. They will learn the difference between spontaneous and receptive desire and why that distinction changes everything about how to approach intimacy. They will get concrete, gentle practices for rebuilding the capacity for pleasure, from savouring and gratitude to Nan's step by step get in touch plan for couples. And they will hear the neuroscience that makes the case that pleasure and orgasm are good for the aging brain and body, not a luxury to feel guilty about. About Dr. Nan Wise Dr. Nan Wise is a cognitive neuroscientist, a certified sex therapist, a board certified clinical hypnotherapist, and a certified relationship specialist. She holds a PhD in cognitive neuroscience from Rutgers University in Newark, where she is an associate research professor, and her dissertation research used fMRI to map what happens in the brain during arousal and orgasm. She is the author of Why Good Sex Matters, and her current work focuses on anhedonia, the loss of the ability to feel pleasure, and what she calls healthy hedonism. This is her second appearance on The Hole Shebang, following the show's most downloaded episode. Theme Song: Kashmir by Led Zeppelin Our Sponsor: SRC Health SRC makes medical grade compression garments for pregnancy, bladder leaks and mild pelvic organ prolapse. The Restore short is the one Kristen reaches for most in clinic. It supports your pelvic organs while you and your pelvic floor physiotherapist do the strengthening work. Blueberry Therapy has carried SRC garments for years. Shop the full range at Blueberry Shop, same price as buying direct and shipped from the clinic in Canada. Use the code SRC15 for 15% off. Many extended health plans cover compression garments with a prescription, so check your benefits before you assume you are paying out of pocket. Key Topics Covered Low libido after a baby and in menopause Spontaneous desire versus receptive desire Pleasure outside the bedroom and healthy hedonism The neuroscience of arousal, orgasm, and the aging brain Slowing down, connection, and the get in touch plan for couples Resources and References Mentioned Why Good Sex Matters by Dr. Nan Wise: https://askdoctornan.com/book/ Dr. Nan Wise's website, where a book receipt earns a free session with a Core Motion analysis test: https://askdoctornan.com Insight Timer, the free meditation app, home of the 40 day mindfulness course, deep rest meditations, and progressive muscle relaxation: https://insighttimer.com The Joy of Sex by Alex Comfort, the classic Nan suggests browsing like a menu of ideas Beverly Whipple, Nan's mentor and the researcher who named the G spot, and her concept of pleasure mapping Dr. Kelly Casperson, urologist and author, mentioned as a great voice on desire Science Vs, the podcast whose orgasm episode featured Nan's research Listen to More Episodes Like This Why Good Sex Matters: The Neuroscience of Pleasure with Dr. Nan Wise (Episode 1, Nan's first appearance): https://podcast.blueberrytherapy.ca Mindfulness to Improve Sexual Desire with Dr. Lori Brotto: https://podcast.blueberrytherapy.ca Perimenopause as Your Sexual Debut: Rewriting the Narrative with Taylor McConnachie: https://podcast.blueberrytherapy.ca Super Traits and the Real Reason Your Sex Drive Disappeared with Dr. Jordin Wiggins: https://podcast.blueberrytherapy.ca Connect with Dr. Nan Wise Website: https://askdoctornan.com Instagram: @askdoctornan Book: Why Good Sex Matters Keep Going with Blueberry Therapy If a drop in desire or pain with sex is part of your story, pelvic health physiotherapy can help. Learn more or book a discovery call at https://blueberrytherapy.ca. Nan gave the keynote at our 2025 event, so keep an eye on The Pleasure Principle for what is next. Subscribe to The Hole Shebang at https://podcast.blueberrytherapy.ca, and if this episode made you feel less alone, leave a review and tell us what you want to hear next. Connect with The Hole Shebang on Instagram @blueberrytherapypelvichealth