A seismic shift in Europe's outlook on Ukraine reveals a complex web of diplomacy, resilience, and strategic ambiguity. As the Ukraine conflict enters its fifth year, the question isn't just about battlefield gains—it's about what comes next. Are European leaders ready to explore backchannel talks, or is open negotiation still a distant dream? If you've been wondering how Europe is balancing steadfast support with cautious diplomacy, this episode sheds light on the subtle art of engaging with a most unpredictable adversary—the Kremlin. In this four episode series, Making Defence European Again, four of our ECFR fellows discuss analysis and advice on the future of European security. You’ll discover how Ukraine’s resilience on the battlefield is reshaping European support, why the EU and US are recalibrating their military and diplomatic strategies, and the nuanced debates over talking to Russia—whether at the top-level or through discreet channels. We break down the shifting political landscape, where the stability of Ukraine is increasingly viewed as vital for Europe’s security, yet public appetite for full EU integration remains cautious. Understand why economic sanctions, military aid, and behind-the-scenes negotiations are all part of the evolving chess game. This episode dives into the stakes of continued conflict, the risks of diplomacy now vs. waiting for a weaker Russia, and the broader implications for European security architecture. With expert insights on the internal politics of France, Germany, the UK, and Ukraine, you’ll learn why strategic patience could transform the future of this devastating war—and Europe’s place within it. The war in Ukraine shows that long-term resilience matters more than quick battlefield gains. Informal diplomatic signals can test an adversary’s willingness to de-escalate without making concessions. We discuss: ▶︎Refusing all dialogue can strengthen an enemy’s narrative, while quiet diplomacy can preserve unity. ▶︎The timing of negotiations matters less than having a clear purpose and strategy. ▶︎European unity on Ukraine depends more on political will than on public consensus. Don’t miss the inside story on why the next moves could define the future of European stability—and how understanding the intricate diplomacy behind the scenes might just be your key to predicting what’s coming. Stay informed, stay prepared, and see beyond the headlines. 2026 © A production from the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR) This work was supported in part by a grant from the Open Society Foundations. ☛ Resources & Links: Making defence European again – European Council on Foreign Relations What the Iran war means for Ukraine – European Council on Foreign Relations ☛ Speakers: ★ Jana Kobzová, Co-director, European Security Programme, Senior Policy Fellow Jana Kobzová – European Council on Foreign Relations ★ Paweł Zerka, Senior Policy Fellow Paweł Zerka – European Council on Foreign Relations ★ Marta Prochwicz Jazowska, Deputy Head, Warsaw Office, Policy Fellow Marta Prochwicz Jazowska – European Council on Foreign Relations ★ Célia Belin, Head, ECFR Paris, Senior Policy Fellow Célia Belin – European Council on Foreign Relations This discussion provides a comprehensive overview of the strategic challenges faced by Europe and actionable ideas for enhancing its security sovereignty amidst a complex geopolitical environment. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.