Girls with Grafts

Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors

Girls with Grafts is a podcast hosted by Amber Wilcox and Rachel Kudlak, Burn Survivors, and supporters of the nonprofit, Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors. The Girls with Grafts podcast is for burn survivors, caregivers, hospital staff, and corporate partners in the burn community. Hear in-depth conversations about burn survivor stories, gain resources for managing a burn injury, hear up-to-date information about Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors community news, and listen in on burn prevention and advocacy information.

  1. 22 hr ago

    When Scars Become the Scare: Halloween and Hollywood Stereotypes

    In this special episode of Girls with Grafts, we're resharing a recent webinar hosted by Kelsey Ferrill of AboutFace Canada, who welcomed Phoenix Society's own Rachel Kudlak alongside Phyllida Swift, Charlene Pell, and Dr. Lise Deguire for an important conversation about Halloween costumes, facial differences, and the harmful stereotypes that continue to shape public perceptions of people with scars and visible differences. 🎃 Together, the panel explores why portraying scars, burns, and facial differences as frightening or villainous is more than just harmless entertainment. They discuss the real-world impact of these portrayals, the research behind appearance-based bias, and how movies, television, and Halloween costumes can reinforce harmful misconceptions about people who look different. The conversation also highlights the advocacy efforts of the Coalition for Authentic Representation of Disfigurement and Difference (C.A.R.D.D.) and Face Equality International, the importance of authentic representation in entertainment, and practical ways we can all help challenge stereotypes, spark conversations, and create a more inclusive world. 🧡 #BurnSurvivor #GirlsWithGrafts #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using #GirlswithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!     Meet Our GuestsKelsey Ferrill is a facial difference advocate, communications professional, and Communications Officer and Program Manager at AboutFace, a Canadian nonprofit supporting people with facial differences. Born with Moebius syndrome, a rare neurological condition that causes facial paralysis, Kelsey has used her lived experience to advocate for greater inclusion, understanding, and authentic representation. She holds a master’s degree in Intercultural and International Communication and has been active in the Moebius syndrome community for many years. Through her professional work, public speaking, and advocacy, Kelsey works to challenge assumptions based on appearance and create a more inclusive world for people with facial differences. Phyllida Swift is an appearance activist and CEO of Face Equality International, an NGO working to end the discrimination and indignity experienced by people with facial differences worldwide. After sustaining facial scars in a car accident in 2016, she became an advocate for changing the negative narratives surrounding scars and disfigurement. Her work focuses on improving representation, challenging stigma, and advancing face equality across media and society. In her TEDx talk, Phyllida explores the harm caused by the disproportionate portrayal of people with facial differences as villains or vulnerable characters on screen and calls for more authentic, inclusive representation. Dr. Lise Deguire is a clinical psychologist, author, speaker, and burn survivor. A graduate of Tufts University, she earned her doctorate in clinical psychology from Hahnemann/Widener University. She is the author of the memoir Flashback Girl: Lessons on Resilience From a Burn Survivor and writes about psychological resilience for Psychology Today. Dr. Deguire has appeared on NPR, NBC, ABC, FOX, SiriusXM, and numerous podcasts, and speaks nationally on resilience, trauma, and recovery. She lives in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, with her husband and is the mother of two daughters. Charlene Pell is a plane crash survivor, advocate, author, and founder and executive director of Facing Forward, a nonprofit empowering people with facial disfigurement through peer support, education, and communication skills training. After sustaining burns to 64% of her body, she dedicated her work to advocacy, education, and community building. Charlene also co-founded the Coalition for Authentic Representation of Disfigurement and Difference (C.A.R.D.D.), which works to transform how people with facial differences are portrayed in media and entertainment. She holds a master’s degree in communication studies and is the author of the award-winning memoir In This Altered Body: A Survivor’s Story of Resilience and Love. Links Join the C.A.R.D.D. Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/carddcoalition Read “Scars are Not a Halloween Costume:” https://www.phoenix-society.org/resources/scars-are-not-a-halloween-costume Learn more about About Face: https://aboutface.ca/ Learn more about FEI: https://faceequalityinternational.org/ Watch Lise’s TedX Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD9KhXQOED8

    When Scars Become the Scare: Halloween and Hollywood Stereotypes
  2. 20 Oct

    Your Physical Health Depends on Your Mental Health with Ivan Francisco Ruiz Gamez

    In this episode of Girls with Grafts, Rachel sits down with burn survivor Ivan Francisco Ruiz Gamez for a powerful conversation about recovery, grief, mental health, and finding purpose after life-changing loss. 🎙️ Ivan was just 11 years old when an RZR accident left him with burns on more than 90% of his body and took the life of his father. He spent seven months in the ICU at Shriners Children’s Northern California and has undergone more than 50 surgeries. Ivan shares what it was like to navigate both physical recovery and grief at such a young age, return to school, adjust to unwanted attention, and lean on his family—especially his mom—through some of his hardest moments. Now 20, Ivan is studying psychology with plans to work with children and is giving back through Spanish SOAR and burn survivor camps. He and Rachel talk about the connection between mental and physical health, the impact of connecting with people who understand, and why Ivan wants other young people to know that life can still hold so much possibility after trauma. ❤️ Ivan leaves listeners with a message he continues to live by: keep doing what you love, even if you have to find a new way to do it, and keep looking for something beautiful in life worth holding onto. #BurnSurvivor #GirlsWithGrafts #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using #GirlswithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!     Meet Our Guest Ivan Francisco Ruiz Gamez is a 20-year-old burn survivor from Mexico, where he continues to live today. His burn injury occurred on June 18, 2018, when he was 11 years old. While traveling with his father in Baja California Sur, they were involved in an RZR accident that resulted in the loss of his father. Following the accident, Ivan was transferred to Shriners Children’s Northern California, where he spent seven months in the ICU. He sustained second- and third-degree burns over 90% of his body and has undergone more than 50 surgeries over the past eight years. Throughout his recovery, his mother has remained by his side, providing ongoing support. Ivan is currently in his third year of studying psychology and hopes to specialize in working with children. Links Get connected or learn more about Spanish SOAR: https://www.phoenix-society.org/spanish Learn more about burn survivor camps: https://iaburncamps.org/  Podcast Sponsor Today’s podcast is powered by the National Fire Protection Association! NFPA is a nonprofit that seeks to save lives and reduce loss with information, knowledge, & passion. Learn more about fire safety and explore their educational resources by visiting www.nfpa.org. Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

    Your Physical Health Depends on Your Mental Health with Ivan Francisco Ruiz Gamez
  3. 1 Oct

    Progress Doesn’t Have to Look Perfect with Amarion Hally

    In this episode of Girls with Grafts, Rachel sits down with burn survivor Amarion Hally for an open conversation about recovery, mental health, and learning that you don’t have to have everything figured out. 🎙️ Amarion shares how his life changed after sustaining severe burns at age 19 and opens up about some of the most difficult parts of his recovery, including losing his fingers, adjusting to changes in his appearance, and navigating the emotional impact of his injury. He also reflects on the life-changing support of his burn care team and how being treated as a person, not just a patient, helped shape his recovery. Rachel and Amarion also talk about the pressure to achieve and how social media can make it seem like everyone else is succeeding while you’re falling behind. Amarion shares why he began posting his story and dancing online, and the message of hope he wants others who are struggling to hear. 🫶   #BurnSurvivor #GirlsWithGrafts #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using #GirlswithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!     Meet Our Guest Amarion Hally is a young burn survivor whose life changed at age 19 after sustaining severe burns to much of his body and face. Throughout his recovery, Amarion has navigated significant physical and emotional changes, including finger amputations and adjusting to his changing appearance. Today, he is continuing his recovery while openly sharing his experience, positivity, and message of hope with others through social media. Links Follow Amarion on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@str8to_marsLearn more about Amarion’s recovery: https://www.wbrz.com/news/spray-on-skin-offers-new-hope-for-burn-patients-in-louisiana/  Podcast Sponsor Today’s podcast is powered by the Bert Martin Foundation! The Bert Martin Foundation was established to assist those who help others and provide financial support for nonprofit organizations. We’re honored to have the Bert Martin Foundation as a long-standing Phoenix Society Partner.   Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

    Progress Doesn’t Have to Look Perfect with Amarion Hally
  4. 8 Sept

    Protecting, Preventing, and Supporting with Phil Tammaro

    In this episode of Girls with Grafts, Rachel and Amber sit down with Phil Tammaro, burn survivor, retired fire captain, and Burn Coordinator for the International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF). 🚒 Phil shares how a burn injury at just two years old shaped his life, while his family’s long history in public safety ultimately inspired him to pursue a career in the fire service. He reflects on what it was like to serve as a firefighter while also carrying his own experience as a burn survivor, and how those two parts of his life have shaped his passion for fire safety, burn prevention, and supporting others. Drawing on more than three decades in the fire service, Phil shares practical fire safety and prevention tips and talks about his work with the IAFF to strengthen burn awareness and peer support within the fire service community. ❤️ Phil also reflects on the power of connection in his own healing journey, including attending his first Phoenix World Burn Congress and returning nearly every year since. He shares how finding a community of people who understood his experience reinforced something he now carries into his own peer support work: no one should have to navigate recovery alone.   #BurnSurvivor #GirlsWithGrafts #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using #GirlswithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!     Meet Our Guest Phil Tammaro serves as the Burn Coordinator for the International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF), where he brings over 31 years of experience as a retired captain from the Billerica, MA Fire Department. He is a nationally recognized subject matter expert and speaker on fire safety, burn prevention, and peer support. From 2009 to 2024, he served as the IAFF 3rd District Burn Coordinator, during which he was awarded the 2016 American Burn Association Burn Prevention Award and the 2023 Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors Joe Hickey Fire Service Award. His personal experience as a burn survivor, combined with his professional background, uniquely qualifies him to effectively address the impact of burn injuries within the fire service and in our communities. Phil’s journey from burn survivor to fire fighter began when he was just a toddler. In 1971, at the age of two, he suffered 3rd degree burns over 35% of his body from an explosion in his home.  Phil spent many years at the Burn Centers in Boston as a patient undergoing numerous skin grafts and reconstructive surgeries to maintain full use of his legs.  His last surgery related to his burns was in 2024, 54 years after the fire. Links Learn more about Phoenix SOAR: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/phoenix-soar Learn more about Phoenix World Burn Congress: https://www.phoenix-society.org/phoenix-wbc Read “What to Expect: Mental Health & Emotional Well-Being:” https://www.phoenix-society.org/resources/what-to-expect-mental-health  Podcast Sponsor Today’s podcast is powered by the National Fire Protection Association! NFPA is a nonprofit that seeks to save lives and reduce loss with information, knowledge, & passion. Learn more about fire safety and explore their educational resources by visiting www.nfpa.org.  Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

    Protecting, Preventing, and Supporting with Phil Tammaro
  5. 1 Sept

    Scars Don’t Change Our Value with Fahima Abbas

    In this episode of Girls with Grafts, Rachel sits down with burn survivor and Phoenix SOAR Peer Supporter Fahima Abbas for a heartfelt conversation about emotional healing, self-confidence, and finding your voice. 🩷 Fahima shares her burn survivor journey and how living with facial scars has shaped the way she sees herself and connects with others. She reflects on the challenges of rebuilding confidence and learning to love herself, as well as the powerful impact of finding an online community of burn survivors who understood her experience. ✨ That connection inspired Fahima to begin sharing her own story and eventually become a Phoenix SOAR Peer Supporter, so she could offer that same sense of understanding and hope to others. Together, Rachel and Fahima talk about what it means to feel comfortable being seen, the freedom that can come from owning your story, and why our scars never determine our worth. Scars don’t change our value—and finding the confidence to believe that can be an important part of healing. 💪 #BurnSurvivor #GirlsWithGrafts #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using #GirlswithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!     Meet Our Guest Fahima Abbas is a burn survivor living with facial scars from a life-changing experience. Her journey with facial burns has shaped so much of who she is today and continues to influence how she sees herself, connects with others, and supports the burn community.   Links Learn more about Phoenix SOAR: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/phoenix-soar Follow Fahima on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fahimalove_ Follow Fahima on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FahimaAbbasJourney/Follow Paige Lauren Billiot, aka Flawless Affect, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/flawless_affect/?hl=en  Podcast Sponsor Today’s podcast is powered by the Bert Martin Foundation! The Bert Martin Foundation was established to assist those who help others and provide financial support for nonprofit organizations. We’re honored to have the Bert Martin Foundation as a long-standing Phoenix Society Partner.   Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

    Scars Don’t Change Our Value with Fahima Abbas
  6. 18 Aug

    Becoming the Headliner of Your Own Healing Story

    In this episode of Girls with Grafts, Rachel and Amber sit down with Tracy Smaldino, a burn survivor, trauma survivor, author, keynote speaker, podcast host, and founder of Trauma Rock Stars™. 🎸 Tracy shares her journey as the sole survivor of a fatal car accident that left her with severe burns as a child, and how she carried her trauma in silence for many years before beginning to lean into healing. Together, Rachel, Amber, and Tracy talk about the lasting impact of trauma, the challenges burn survivors can face with summer heat, and what it means to find your voice when you are finally ready to share your story. Tracy also shares how meditation, music, and her years in the music industry shaped the creation of Trauma Rock Stars™—a platform that frames healing like a concert, from the sound check to the headliner moment. 🎵 Her message is a powerful reminder that trauma does not define us, and every survivor has a Rock Star inside them.   #BurnSurvivor #GirlsWithGrafts #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using #GirlswithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!   Meet Our Guest Tracy Smaldino is a trauma survivor, author, keynote speaker, podcast host, and the founder of Trauma Rock Stars™ — a platform built on the belief that your trauma doesn’t define you, it refines you. Tracy’s story begins as the sole survivor of a fatal car accident that left her with severe burns as a child — and, years later, a survivor of sexual assault. For years she carried her trauma in silence. When she finally leaned into her healing journey, everything changed. She turned her pain into purpose and Trauma Rock Stars™ was born. As a burn survivor, Tracy brings a deeply personal understanding to her work — and an unshakeable belief that every person has a Rock Star inside them. Sometimes they just need someone to hand them the mic. Links Visit Tracy’s website: https://traumarockstars.com/Listen to Trauma Rock Stars: https://traumarockstars.com/#podcast Listen to TRAUMA ROCK STAR Songs that Saved Us: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0mQfkVQtw1eB1eNSsD9ZQy Watch our episode “The Science of Staying Cool: Dr. Craig Crandall and the Burn Survivor Heat Risk Calculator:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eB-KLHqD4o Share your story with our Virtual Open Mic: https://www.phoenix-society.org/open-mic-submission Podcast Sponsor Today’s podcast is powered by Buses by the Beach! Buses by the Beach is a community of VW bus enthusiasts based in West Michigan. They come together to camp, host amazing events, and raise funds to support Phoenix Society. And mark your calendars for the Bus Boo 2026, happening October 2nd - 4th in Dorr, Michigan.  Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

    Becoming the Headliner of Your Own Healing Story
  7. 11 Aug

    Phoenix SOAR, Peer Support, and the Power of Burn Community with Rebecca Garber

    In this episode of Girls with Grafts, Rachel sits down with Rebecca Garber, a nurse practitioner at HCA HealthONE Swedish Burn and Reconstructive Center in Englewood, Colorado. With more than 25 years of experience caring for burn-injured patients, Rebecca brings a powerful perspective on the clinical and emotional sides of recovery. 🩺 She shares what first drew her to burn care, how her understanding of healing has evolved over time, and why supporting patients and families goes far beyond physical recovery. Rebecca also discusses her connection to Phoenix Society and the impact of Phoenix SOAR, a peer support program that connects burn survivors and loved ones with trained supporters who have lived experience. 💙 She reflects on what makes peer support so meaningful, what she looks for in future peer supporters, and how Phoenix World Burn Congress has shaped the way she thinks about burn recovery, community, and care. This conversation is a reminder of the important role burn care professionals play—not only in helping patients heal, but in connecting them to hope, support, and community. 👏  #BurnSurvivor #GirlsWithGrafts #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using #GirlswithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!     Meet Our Guest Rebecca Garber is a nurse practitioner for the HCA Health 1 Swedish Burn and Reconstructive Center in Englewood, Colorado. She has cared for burn injured patients for more than 25 years. Rebecca works closely with the Phoenix SOAR peer supporters of her program. She is passionate about supporting this invaluable resource and training for future peer supporters.    Links Learn more about Phoenix SOAR: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/phoenix-soarLearn more about Phoenix World Burn Congress: https://www.phoenix-society.org/phoenix-wbc Read “The Power of Peer Support:” https://www.phoenix-society.org/resources/the-power-of-peer-support Read “Peer Support is Powerful:” https://www.phoenix-society.org/resources/peer-support-is-powerful Explore our toolkit for burn care professionals: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/tools-for-burn-care-professionals Explore our Resource Center: https://www.phoenix-society.org/resources  Podcast Sponsor Today’s podcast is powered by AlloSource! AlloSource is one of the largest human tissue providers, honoring tissue donors by creating innovative skin allografts to help burn surgeons heal patients. Learn more at: https://allosource.org.  Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

    Phoenix SOAR, Peer Support, and the Power of Burn Community with Rebecca Garber
  8. 4 Aug

    A Burn Nurse’s Mission to Build Connection with Kailin Kyle

    Girls with Grafts is back for Season 9! 🎉 Rachel and Amber sit down with burn nurse Kailin Kyle to talk about her path into nursing and burn care, which began after her uncle was treated at the Connecticut Burn Center. Kailin shares how attending her first American Burn Association conference inspired her to become more involved with Phoenix Society and help revitalize her hospital’s Phoenix SOAR Program. ❤️ Now serving as Co-Lead Coordinator, she helps facilitate monthly support groups, coordinate certified peer support visits, and recruit new peer supporters. Together, they discuss the power of peer support—both through traditional visits and community-building experiences such as events and gatherings. Kailin also reflects on attending Phoenix World Burn Congress and shares advice for other burn care professionals interested in starting or rebuilding a peer support program.🏥 #BurnSurvivor #GirlsWithGrafts #Podcast #SurvivorPodcast #BurnSurvivorStories ⭐️ Enjoyed the show? Tell us by leaving a 5-star review and sharing on social media using #GirlswithGrafts and tagging Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors!   Meet Our Guest Kailin Kyle has been a registered nurse for nearly five years and will celebrate three years as a burn nurse this summer. Her interest in burn care began in 2021, when her uncle was treated at the Connecticut Burn Center. After attending her first American Burn Association conference in 2023, Kailin became involved with Phoenix Society and later became Co-Lead Coordinator for the Connecticut Burn Center’s Phoenix SOAR Program. Today, she helps host monthly support groups, coordinates certified peer support visits, and recruits new peer supporters. Kailin is proud to help build a safe, supportive community for burn survivors in Connecticut. Links Learn more about Phoenix SOAR: https://resources.phoenix-society.org/phoenix-soar Contact Sara Byrne, our Community Specialist for Phoenix SOAR at SByrne@phoenix-society.orgJoin our Phoenix SOAR Coordinator Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/135603113920080/ Join our Phoenix SOAR Peer Supporter Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/PhoenixSOARPeerSupporter   Podcast Sponsor Today’s podcast is powered by the Board of Certification for Emergency Nursing (BCEN)! BCEN is committed to advancing burn care through the Certified Burn Registered Nurse, or CBRN, credential — a certification designed to recognize specialized knowledge and expertise across the burn care continuum.  Interested in becoming a sponsor of the show? Email us at info@phoenix-society.org.

    A Burn Nurse’s Mission to Build Connection with Kailin Kyle

About

Girls with Grafts is a podcast hosted by Amber Wilcox and Rachel Kudlak, Burn Survivors, and supporters of the nonprofit, Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors. The Girls with Grafts podcast is for burn survivors, caregivers, hospital staff, and corporate partners in the burn community. Hear in-depth conversations about burn survivor stories, gain resources for managing a burn injury, hear up-to-date information about Phoenix Society for Burn Survivors community news, and listen in on burn prevention and advocacy information.

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