Health Coaching and Beyond

Ollie and Tim
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This podcast champions the belief that Health Coaching can change the world for the better! Your hosts Drs Ollie Hart and Tim Williams, are UK Family Doctors (GPs), who learnt to health coach with their patients over 40 years + combined experience. They found it so successful for their patients and themselves, they set up a company to teach others the skills....www.peakhealthcoaching.com Now they bring their enthusiasm for the topic to the airwaves, to encourage and promote the growth of health coaching in the NHS, in businesses, and any where that people matter. They will chat about current affairs related to person centred care, and topics related to health coaching. Some episodes involve carefully selected guests, others conversation between the 2 of them. They aim to inspire your confidence and knowledge to embrace health coaching and all the benefits and joy it can bring.

  1. 4 DAYS AGO

    Episode 20 - Physical activity, prevention and the role of community in health

    Summary In this episode, Tim is joined by Dr Callum Leese, a GP based in the Scottish Highlands, researcher at the University of Dundee and co-founder of the community initiative Healthiest Town Aberfeldy. The conversation explores a familiar tension in healthcare - we know physical activity is one of the most powerful tools we have for preventing and managing disease, yet it remains difficult to embed meaningfully into everyday clinical practice. Callum reflects on his experience during COVID, where rising rates of non-communicable diseases highlighted a system often focused on reacting to illness rather than addressing its root causes. He describes this as a kind of “whack-a-mole medicine”, where new conditions are continually treated as they arise, rather than working upstream to prevent them. This led to the creation of Healthiest Town Aberfeldy, a community-led initiative aiming to reduce barriers to good health at a local level. The project brings together food, movement and social connection through practical, visible and locally relevant activities - from cooking groups to growing festivals - grounded in the idea that health is shaped collectively, not just individually. The discussion also explores the real-world challenges clinicians face. Time pressure, limited resources, gaps in knowledge and lack of financial incentives all play a role in why preventative conversations don’t always happen. But alongside these barriers, there are also signs of progress, including growing recognition of social prescribing and more integrated, community-based approaches. A key theme running throughout the episode is the role of health coaching. Not just in how to have better conversations, but in knowing when to have them, how to tailor them, and how to work with the complexity of people’s lives rather than reducing health to single issues. Takeaways Physical activity is one of the most effective interventions in healthcare, yet remains underused in practice Healthcare systems often prioritise treatment over prevention, leading to reactive rather than upstream care Time pressure is a major barrier, but not the only one – resources, knowledge and incentives also play a role Community-led approaches can help remove practical and social barriers to better health Health is shaped not just individually, but by the people and environments around us Rural settings bring unique challenges to health, including access, cost and opportunities for activity Seeing relatable, local examples of change can be more powerful than generic advice Health coaching is not just about what to say, but when and how to say it Tailored, personalised conversations are more effective than generic information or advice People rarely present with a single issue – health challenges are often interconnected Simple questions like “What are you doing to look after your health?” can open meaningful conversations Active healthcare professionals are more likely to have conversations about physical activity Making healthy behaviours visible can be a powerful form of advocacy

    32 min

  2. 29 APR

    Episode 19 - Neighbourhood working and the role of activation

    Summary  In this episode, Ollie and Tim explore the growing focus on neighbourhood working within the NHS and what it will take to make it meaningful in practice. They reflect on the current policy direction, which emphasises a shift from hospital-based care to community, prevention and more proactive support. While the ambition is widely supported, the conversation explores why previous attempts at neighbourhood working have struggled to deliver lasting change. They discuss how healthcare systems continue to focus on medicalised outcomes, linear change and organisational structures, rather than the relationships, behaviours and cultural shifts needed to truly transform care. A central theme of the episode is activation, supporting people, professionals and systems to build the confidence, knowledge and skills to take a more active role in health and care.  Tim and Ollie explore how health coaching and person-centred approaches can move conversations beyond advice-giving, helping people take a more active role in their own health. They also reflect on the reality of working in pressured systems, where burnout, limited capacity and competing priorities make change difficult. The conversation highlights the importance of protecting roles like health coaches, social prescribing link workers and care coordinators - as well as learning from the voluntary sector, which has long worked in this way. While the direction of travel is clear, making neighbourhood working successful will depend on sustained investment in skills, mindset and relationships. Takeaways Neighbourhood working has been a long-standing ambition but has been difficult to implement in practice. Structural change alone is not enough - relationships, culture and behaviours are key. Healthcare systems often prioritise medicalised, short-term outcomes over longer-term change. Activation is about building confidence, knowledge and skills across people, staff and communities. Person-centred conversations can change how people engage with their health and care. Workforce wellbeing and capacity are critical to enabling meaningful change. Voluntary and community sectors have long led the way in this approach. Measuring success in neighbourhoods requires looking beyond traditional clinical metrics. Long-term change requires patience, trust and investment in relationships. Small changes in conversations can have a significant impact over time. The success of neighbourhood models will depend on how they are delivered, not just how they are designed. Further Reading The latest guidance on neighbourhood working from the Department of Health and Social Care: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/neighbourhood-health-framework/neighbourhood-health-frameworkCommentary on the neighbourhood health framework from The King's Fund: https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/blogs/neighbourhood-health-framework-clarity-gaps-what-comes-nextA longer read from The King's Fund exploring what neighbourhood health means in practice: https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/long-reads/what-is-neighbourhood-health#what-is-neighbourhood-health

    40 min

  3. 22 APR

    Episode 18 - Exercise to Connection: GoodGym, Community and Purpose

    Summary  In this episode, Ollie is joined by Ivo Gormley, social entrepreneur and founder of GoodGym, to explore a different way of thinking about exercise, community and connection. Ivo shares how GoodGym began with a simple idea: combining running with helping an older neighbour. What started as a personal solution to make exercise feel more meaningful has grown into a nationwide movement, where thousands of people run, walk or cycle to support community projects and reduce social isolation. The conversation explores why traditional approaches to exercise do not work for everyone, particularly when they are disconnected from purpose or social context. Ivo reflects on how motivation often comes not from self-improvement alone, but from feeling part of something bigger and being accountable to others. A central theme is the idea of mutual benefit. Rather than framing support as something one person gives and another receives, GoodGym positions older people as “coaches” — recognising that encouragement, connection and shared experience flow both ways. This reframing challenges more traditional models of care and highlights the value of contribution for everyone involved. Ollie and Ivo also discuss the wider societal context, including rising loneliness, particularly among younger people, and the gradual loss of everyday human interactions in modern life. The episode considers what this might mean for healthcare, public services and communities more broadly. Ivo argues that designing opportunities for people to interact, support each other and contribute should be a core part of how services operate, not an optional extra.  Takeaways Purpose and connection can be more powerful motivators for exercise than fitness goals alone. People are more likely to stay active when others are expecting them and when they feel part of a group. Small acts of helping others can create meaningful benefits for both physical and mental wellbeing. Reframing support as mutual, rather than one-directional, can strengthen relationships and reduce stigma. Older people can play an active role as contributors, not just recipients of care. Loneliness is increasingly affecting younger people, even in highly social environments. Modern systems often remove small, everyday interactions that help build connection. Shared challenges, even small or imperfect ones, can build trust and relationships. Designing services with opportunities for human interaction can improve outcomes and experience. Social prescribing and community-based approaches can play an important role in health and wellbeing. The risk of doing nothing to address isolation may be greater than the risks of trying new approaches. Creating the conditions for connection may be more important than teaching social skills directly. Links To find out more about joining GoodGym, visit their website: https://www.goodgym.org/

    41 min

  4. 15 APR

    Episode 17 - Chronic pain, mind-body recovery and the role of self-compassion

    Summary  In this episode, Ollie is joined by Joanne Smith, a nurse, health visitor and chronic pain and symptoms recovery coach, to explore her personal and professional journey through chronic pain and mindbody recovery. Joanne shares how her symptoms began after a car accident in 2008 and gradually expanded over the years into persistent pain across different parts of her body. Despite doing everything she was advised - physiotherapy, pain services, medication and exercise - she remained stuck in a cycle of managing symptoms rather than moving towards recovery. A turning point came during coaching training in 2018, when a simple exercise helped Joanne recognise just how much her own thinking was shaping her experience. That moment opened the door to a very different understanding of pain and symptoms, one that eventually led her to mindbody work, journaling, somatic practices and the gradual realisation that recovery might be possible. The conversation explores the complexity of this field with care and nuance. Joanne and Ollie discuss the importance of ruling out physical causes, while also recognising that symptoms can be real, intense and life-limiting even when they are being driven by the brain rather than structural damage. Joanne reflects on the role of buried emotions, perfectionism, fear, and self-pressure in her own story, and describes how self-compassion became a crucial part of her healing. Together, they consider how healthcare may be starting to shift, from simply helping people live with chronic symptoms, towards offering a wider understanding of why those symptoms persist and what recovery can involve. Throughout, Joanne’s story offers both hope and realism: recovery was not instant, but curiosity, emotional awareness and a gentler relationship with herself changed what felt possible. Takeaways Chronic pain and symptoms can remain real and severe even when structural damage is not driving them. Many people are told to manage or accept long-term symptoms without being offered other explanations. A shift in understanding can become a powerful turning point in recovery. Thought patterns, self-talk and emotional suppression can play a significant role in chronic symptoms. Ruling out physical causes is an important part of a safe mindbody approach. Journaling, somatic tracking and emotional awareness can help people notice links between symptoms and inner experience. Pain that is brain-driven is not imagined or “all in the mind” - it is real pain with a different root cause. Fear and avoidance can reinforce symptoms, even when they feel like sensible self-protection. Recovery often involves reducing fear, building curiosity and retraining the brain’s expectations. Self-compassion can be just as important as determination. People do not need to be mentally unwell for emotions and stress to affect the body. Healthcare may need a broader toolkit that includes both physical and mindbody approaches.

    42 min

  5. 2 APR

    Episode 16 - Pain, possibility and the power of social prescribing

    Summary In this episode, Ollie and Tim come back together to reflect on two big themes shaping health and wellbeing right now: the evolving understanding of persistent pain, and the growing impact of social prescribing. Tim shares insights from the Live Well With Pain Conference, where there was a strong sense that the field is shifting. Conversations are moving beyond helping people simply “live with” pain, towards a more hopeful perspective that, for some, recovery may be possible. The discussion highlights how health coaching fits naturally into this space. Rather than positioning clinicians as the “experts with answers,” there is a move towards walking alongside people, helping them make sense of their experience and supporting them to rediscover their own capacity for change. The second half of the episode turns to social prescribing, following National Social Prescribing Day. Ollie and Tim reflect on how far this movement has come, with thousands of link workers now connecting people to community-based support. They explore why health cannot be separated from the realities of people’s lives, and how factors like isolation, housing, finances and connection often sit at the heart of wellbeing. Throughout the conversation, a common thread emerges: starting with what matters to the person. Whether in pain management or social prescribing, the most effective interventions begin with listening, not solutions. The episode makes a compelling case that these approaches are not “nice extras,” but essential components of modern healthcare. Takeaways There is a growing shift in how persistent pain is understood, with increasing optimism around recovery for some people. Understanding a person’s story is central to both accurate assessment and meaningful support. Health coaching helps people build confidence, skills and hope, rather than relying solely on expert advice. Clinicians do not need all the answers - asking the right questions can be just as powerful. Social prescribing recognises that health is shaped by social, emotional and environmental factors. Small, meaningful conversations can have a significant impact on long-term health and wellbeing. Stronger collaboration between clinicians, health coaches and link workers improves care. These approaches are not a replacement for medical care, but an essential part of making it work. Investing in community-based support enables more personalised and sustainable health outcomes. Health systems are most effective when they address health, social context and self-management together.

    38 min

  6. 25 MAR

    Episode 15 – What matters to you: putting personalised care into practice

    Summary In this episode, Tim is joined by GP and senior NHS leader Dr Iolanthe Fowler to explore the simple but powerful question: what matters to you? Drawing on her experience across general practice, community services and hospital leadership, Iolanthe reflects on how person-centred care can be embedded in busy healthcare settings without losing sight of the human being in front of you. The conversation explores why good care does not begin only with diagnosis, treatment plans or organisational pathways, but with understanding what matters most to the patient, colleague or team member in that moment. Tim and Iolanthe discuss how coaching has influenced the way they both work and how coaching-informed conversations can help people think more clearly, feel more heard and make decisions that are realistic for their lives. Iolanthe shares how these ideas have shaped practical changes within Sheffield Teaching Hospitals, from coaching programmes for staff to What Matters to You? appraisals and community-based services that start with the person’s agenda rather than the system’s. The episode also looks at the wider cultural shift needed to make this approach stick. They reflect on the tension between highly pressurised healthcare environments and the need for compassionate, personalised care, arguing that asking better questions is not an added extra but a more effective way of working. Takeaways What matters to you? is a simple question that can change the direction of a conversation. Person-centred care begins with listening, not just diagnosis or advice. Coaching skills can help patients and colleagues think more clearly and feel more heard. Shared decision-making works best when the person’s agenda is understood first. Compassionate conversations can improve both patient experience and staff wellbeing. This approach is not about replacing clinical expertise, but making it more effective. Better conversations can reduce frustration, complaints and non-value-adding care. Healthcare staff often find this way of working more meaningful and energising. Embedding personalised care requires culture change, not just one-off training. Trust, autonomy and compassionate leadership are essential to making change stick. Small practical shifts, such as changing the way appraisals are approached, can have a wider organisational impact. Health systems work better when they are designed around what matters to people.

    41 min

  7. 18 MAR

    Episode 14 - Health coaching at work: creating the conditions for healthier working lives

    Summary  In this episode, Ollie and Tim explore what health coaching might offer in workplace settings, and why healthier working lives may depend on more than reactive support alone. Drawing on Tim’s recent conversations at this year’s Health & Wellbeing at Work Show, the pair reflect on how unfamiliar health coaching still is in many organisations, despite growing interest once people understand what it actually involves. The discussion looks at the gap between traditional workplace support, which often centres on crisis response or expert-led information, and a more proactive approach that helps people think more clearly about their own health and wellbeing before problems escalate. Ollie and Tim consider how much current workplace wellbeing provision is built around signposting, webinars and specialist input. While all of these can be valuable, they argue that information on its own rarely leads to lasting change. Instead, real progress often comes when people feel able to reflect on what matters to them, build confidence, and take ownership of their health in ways that feel realistic and personal. The episode also explores the role of line managers, peer relationships and leadership culture in shaping health at work. They discuss how trust, vulnerability and psychologically safe conversations can influence not just individual wellbeing, but the tone of a whole team or organisation. Throughout, the conversation returns to a core Peak Health theme: that health is not created only in clinics or at moments of crisis. It is shaped day to day, by people’s sense of self-worth, agency, relationships and environment. In that sense, the workplace is not just somewhere health problems show up, but somewhere health can actively be supported, strengthened and protected. These ideas also connect to a major theme of this year’s Peak Health Coaching Conference, Health Coaching for Healthy Working Lives, where the focus will be on how organisations can move beyond reactive wellbeing support and create cultures where people are supported to stay well, think well and thrive at work. Takeaways Workplace wellbeing often focuses more on reacting to ill health than preventing it. Health coaching offers a more proactive and personalised way to support employee wellbeing. Many organisations are still unfamiliar with what health coaching is in practice. Information alone rarely changes behaviour, especially when people are already overwhelmed. Confidence, agency and self-worth are key foundations for healthier behaviour. One-off webinars and expert talks can help, but they are rarely enough on their own. Line managers can have a major influence on whether wellbeing conversations feel safe and supportive. Peer-to-peer conversations may also play an important role in workplace culture. Leadership vulnerability can build trust and encourage openness across teams. Helping people feel valued and heard is closely linked to health and wellbeing. The workplace can be a powerful setting for prevention, not just crisis response. Healthier working lives benefit individuals, teams and organisations alike. These themes will be explored further at this year’s Peak Health conference, Health Coaching for Healthy Working Lives. The conference will bring together people interested in healthier workplaces.

    38 min

  8. 11 MAR

    Episode 13 - Lifestyle medicine and the power of health coaching

    Summary In this episode, Ollie is joined by GP, lifestyle medicine doctor and health coach Dr Hussain Al-Zabadi to explore how behaviour change really happens in healthcare. Hussain shares his personal journey into lifestyle medicine, reflecting on how his own health challenges forced him to rethink the way he was living and working. What followed was a gradual shift in perspective – from focusing purely on medical knowledge and clinical targets, to understanding the deeper drivers of health: environment, community, relationships and personal motivation. The conversation explores the limitations of traditional healthcare approaches that rely on advice-giving and information alone. Hussain explains how discovering health coaching transformed the way he works with patients, helping him move from “telling people what to do” towards creating space for patients to explore their own motivations, priorities and barriers to change. They discuss the realities of working within the time pressures of primary care, and how coaching skills can still be applied in short consultations by planting seeds and helping patients reflect on what matters most to them. Hussain also highlights the power of group consultations and peer support, where patients often gain confidence and momentum from learning alongside others. The episode closes with a broader reflection on the NHS ambition to shift from a sickness model to prevention. Hussain offers a candid perspective on why this transition is difficult in practice, arguing that meaningful prevention will require better training, stronger collaboration between roles in primary care, and a deeper understanding that health is created largely outside the consultation room. Takeaways  Health behaviour change rarely happens through information alone. Community, relationships and environment strongly shape health outcomes. Lifestyle medicine focuses on the root causes of illness, not just clinical targets. Health coaching helps patients develop autonomy, confidence and ownership. Creating the right conditions for change is more effective than prescribing solutions. Patients often know what they “should” do but struggle to implement it. Coaching skills can be applied even in short consultations by planting small seeds. Group consultations allow deeper conversations and peer-to-peer support. Many valuable community services remain underused because healthcare teams don’t know they exist. A shift towards prevention will require new skills, better collaboration and system change. Health is largely created outside the consultation room.

    43 min
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This podcast champions the belief that Health Coaching can change the world for the better! Your hosts Drs Ollie Hart and Tim Williams, are UK Family Doctors (GPs), who learnt to health coach with their patients over 40 years + combined experience. They found it so successful for their patients and themselves, they set up a company to teach others the skills....www.peakhealthcoaching.com Now they bring their enthusiasm for the topic to the airwaves, to encourage and promote the growth of health coaching in the NHS, in businesses, and any where that people matter. They will chat about current affairs related to person centred care, and topics related to health coaching. Some episodes involve carefully selected guests, others conversation between the 2 of them. They aim to inspire your confidence and knowledge to embrace health coaching and all the benefits and joy it can bring.

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  • Creator
    Ollie and Tim
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    20
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    © 2025 Ollie and Tim

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