The Sticky CMO

Tom Basgil

Becoming indispensable as a CMO isn’t easy. That’s where we come in. On “The Sticky CMO” podcast, expert guests join award-winning marketer Tom Basgil to share cutting-edge strategy and help you level up where it matters. From social strategy to funnel optimization, each episode is packed with actionable tips for marketers looking to become irreplaceable in their organizations. Join the new wave of Sticky CMOs. To find out more, visit tombasgil.com

  1. 1 DAY AGO

    AEO vs. GEO vs. SEO: How to Get Cited, Not Just Ranked with Will Ockendon

    How do you stay visible in a zero-click world, where AI is answering questions even before users tap a link? In this episode, Tom Basgil speaks with Will Ockendon, Director and Owner of Prohibition PR, about how generative engine optimization (GEO) and answer engine optimization (AEO)  are reshaping the way brands build authority and get discovered online. Will shares his expertise on why traditional PR disciplines are becoming one of the most powerful tools for winning in the age of AI search. They explore the shift from SEO to GEO, and how the rise of zero-click behavior means brands that aren't being cited by AI engines are becoming invisible. Will also breaks down the three core signals: onsite content, technical accessibility, and offsite authority. He then shares a practical framework for auditing where you currently stand and how to systematically build your GEO/AEO visibility over time.  Dive into the episode: (00:00) What is generative engine optimization (GEO)? (02:30) The rise of zero-click behavior (04:47) Why organic traffic is dropping and why it doesn't tell the whole story (06:00) The three core GEO signals brands need to know (09:39) Why PR is one of the most powerful AEO/GEO tools (11:00) Reddit, LinkedIn, and the shift to third-party credibility (14:35) How to measure GEO visibility and what tools to use (17:30) Where to start before running a GEO audit (20:30) Does AEO/GEO keep marketers stuck or help them stick? (21:43) One thing CMOs should do tomorrow If you’re ready to prove your worth, lead with clarity, and make marketing impossible to ignore, this is your show. Because when the stakes are high, the marketers who stick are the ones who truly lead. Subscribe now and be part of the next generation of Sticky CMOs. Connect with Will Ockendon https://www.linkedin.com/in/willockenden/  https://www.embracingmarketingmistakes.co.uk/2206375  Connect with Tom Basgil https://www.linkedin.com/in/tombasgil/ Sticky Tactics https://www.stickytactics.com/ Produced in partnership with Share Your Genius www.shareyourgenius.com

    24 min
  2. 1 APR

    AI & the Death of the Sales Funnel: Transforming Product Demos with Natalie Marcotullio

    How do you stand out when AI lets every SaaS product ship features faster than ever? In this episode, Tom Basgil speaks with Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth and Product Marketing at Navattic, about how AI is revolutionizing the world of product demos. Natalie shares her insights on how platforms like Navattic enable brands to create engaging, high-conversion demos faster and more efficiently than ever before. They explore the shift from no-code to AI-assisted "vibe coding," and how these advancements allow marketers to deliver more personalized, interactive experiences without needing deep technical expertise. Natalie also discusses the key to building product demos that stand out and resonate with potential customers, as well as how Navattic is helping businesses accelerate their sales cycles by giving prospects hands-on product experiences earlier. Dive into the episode: (00:00) The Shift from No-Code to AI (01:30) Balancing Technical Foundations with AI Assistance (03:20) How Navattic Automates the Demo "Zero to One" Phase (05:30) What is an Interactive Demo? (06:34) Differentiating the Sales Experience in B2B (08:27) Strategic Risks: Building a Homegrown Customer Portal (10:30) Pitching Long-Term Projects as Experiments (13:04) How Demos Improve Pipeline Quality and Conversion (14:39) Common Pitfalls: Tutorial vs. Strategic Narrative (15:47) Prioritization and Deep Work for Marketing Leaders If you’re ready to prove your worth, lead with clarity, and make marketing impossible to ignore, this is your show. Because when the stakes are high, the marketers who stick are the ones who truly lead. Subscribe now and be part of the next generation of Sticky CMOs. Connect with Natalie Marcotullio https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-marcotullio/ Connect with Tom Basgil https://www.linkedin.com/in/tombasgil/ Sticky Tactics https://www.stickytactics.com/ Produced in partnership with Share Your Genius www.shareyourgenius.com

    19 min

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Becoming indispensable as a CMO isn’t easy. That’s where we come in. On “The Sticky CMO” podcast, expert guests join award-winning marketer Tom Basgil to share cutting-edge strategy and help you level up where it matters. From social strategy to funnel optimization, each episode is packed with actionable tips for marketers looking to become irreplaceable in their organizations. Join the new wave of Sticky CMOs. To find out more, visit tombasgil.com