The New Abnormal

Sean Pillot de Chenecey
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The New Abnormal podcast (which has over 250,000 downloads) focuses on 'Now / Next / Why'. Discussing the viewpoints of my guests, who've including activists, creatives, writers, philosophers, strategists, psychologists, lecturers, futurists etc, has led to some fascinating conversations. Re: my bio, I'm a public speaker and futurist. I've written two books - my first went to No1 in the business charts, whilst my second was shortlisted for the 'Business Book of the Year' Awards. (I'll be writing a third as soon as time allows.) So, I hope you enjoy listening to the series - which was set up during the early days of Covid, and is divided into Series One [2020-21] Two [2022] Three [2023] Four [2024] and Five [2025].  All rights reserved. #TheNewAbnormal podcast series © Sean Pillot de Chenecey 2020. 

  1. Bulent Duagi 'Exploring new thinking and connecting the dots'

    3 NOV

    Bulent Duagi 'Exploring new thinking and connecting the dots'

    This episode of The New Abnormal podcast features Bulent Duagi, a 'cross-pollinator' in the Romanian futurists-ecosystem.  He works with high-stakes decision makers, facilitating strategy execution and acting as a guide for organisations tackling tough challenges. He also works as a futures-skills trainer to help 'curious people stay relevant' via moderating workshops on core topics such as Strategic Thinking or Applied AI.  Bulent has a passion for helping companies address their most critical business and organisational challenges, which has translated into a track record of him running over a hundred strategic initiatives over the last decade. Always exploring new fields and connecting the dots, he likes to help clients 'decide and move'. So, if you're interested in gaining an insight into the futures-ecosystem in Romania, this episode is for you!

    34 min
  2. Jordi Serra del Pino 'Postnormal Times and the Three Tomorrows...'

    27 OCT

    Jordi Serra del Pino 'Postnormal Times and the Three Tomorrows...'

    This episode of The New Abnormal podcast features Jordi Serra del Pino, who is a consultant with more than 40 years experience in foresight, strategy and intelligence. As a professor, he’s participated in numerous academic programmes and currently holds several positions:Deputy Director at the Centre for Postnormal Policy & Futures Studies, Associate Professor at Blanquerna Ramon Llull University, Foresight professor at Lisa Institute, and is responsible for foresight at the Interuniversity Master’s in Intelligence Analysis. He also serves on the editorial board of Futures and World Futures Review. Jordi has consulted for private companies, government agencies and international organizations.He’s also a writer, contributing to major journals and mainstream media, and as a public speaker has given keynotes at numerous events around the world. In this episode, we discuss all of the above, along with some of the key influences on his thinking over a long and fascinating career. Jordi also outlines the imminent arrival of a dynamic new platform that he’s about to launch in the futures-consulting space…

    52 min
  3. Andre Spicer 'The Art of Less'

    24 OCT

    Andre Spicer 'The Art of Less'

    This episode of The New Abnormal podcast features Andre Spicer, Dean and Professor at Bayes Business School, City St George's, University of London.  He's an expert in the fields of organisational behaviour, leadership and corporate social responsibility, and is the founding director of ETHOS: The Centre for Responsible Enterprise at Bayes.  Andre is the author of a number of successful books, has co-authored numerous reports and written columns for the Guardian, Financial Times, New Statesman, and The Conversation.  However, in this episode, we mainly focus on his latest book 'The Art of Less: How to Focus on What Really Matters at Work'. In it, Andre explains how "organisational sludge" gets in the way of performance, and what can be done about it. An issue which I'm sure all listeners will recognise as something that leaves us feeling overwhelmed but underproductive. So, listen to this essential guide on how to achieve more by doing less...

    41 min
  4. Emma Briant 'Exposing the Propaganda Machine'

    22 OCT

    Emma Briant 'Exposing the Propaganda Machine'

    This episode of The New Abnormal podcast features Dr Emma Louise Briant, an internationally recognised expert and professor of information warfare & propaganda. She helps policymakers, governments, business leaders, journalists and the public understand and respond to the challenge of contemporary online threats. Her research, testimony and solutions on the rapid evolution of surveillant propaganda and its implications for democracy were central in exposing the Cambridge Analytica scandal. Her work has informed civil society organisations, the UN, US Congress, UK Parliament, Canadian Parliament, New Zealand Parliament, and EU Parliament.  Emma's books include the Routledge Handbook of the Influence Industry, Bad News for Refugees, and Propaganda & Counter-Terrorism. She also served as advisor for Emmy-nominated ‘People You May Know’, and as Senior Researcher for Oscar-shortlisted ‘The Great Hack’. She's an absolutely fascinating person, so I really enjoyed listening to Emma's perspectives, and hope you will too!

    52 min
  5. Jim Dator 'Living Make-Belief: Thriving in a Dream Society'

    17 OCT

    Jim Dator 'Living Make-Belief: Thriving in a Dream Society'

    I’m honoured that the focus of this episode of ‘The New Abnormal’ podcast is Jim Dator, who’s had an extraordinary impact on futures-thinking.  Indeed, I believe one would struggle to find someone else who could today be genuinely given the title of “the world’s leading futurist”. Although Jim is far too self-effacing to bestow that title on himself, it’s an accolade he thoroughly deserves. His career has been a lifelong invitation to ‘think differently about tomorrow’, with his intellectual rigor and curiosity expanding what it means to study “The Future.” Professor Emeritus and former Director of the Research Centre for Futures Studies, Dept of Political Science, at the University of Hawaii; he more or less invented futures studies during his time teaching at university in Japan in the 1960’s, before returning to the US and introducing the first course there. He’s also taught at universities in Canada, Yugoslavia, France, and Korea. And he’s the former President of the World Futures Studies Federation.  For this podcast, we agreed to mainly focus on his latest book “Living Make-Belief: Thriving in a Dream Society” in which Jim illuminates his ideas about the past, present, and futures of modes of communication and social change. (And he of course mentions Rolf Jensen c/o Copenhagen Institute for Futures Studies.) But we naturally also allude to his other books, articles and staggeringly wide array of intellectual viewpoints, in a podcast where, while he supplied the script, as he’s over ninety years old, Jim asked me to voice the episode on his behalf. It was incredibly kind of him to allow me to tell his story (or at least some of it) and I’m delighted that he was so pleased with the results.   And, of course, I hope you enjoy the episode as well.  He really is a genius.

    27 min
  6. Dr Joseph Voros 'Futures Thinking in Real-World Contexts'

    10 OCT

    Dr Joseph Voros 'Futures Thinking in Real-World Contexts'

    Series Five  This episode of The New Abnormal podcast features the famous physicist and futurist Dr Joseph Voros, who helps people and organisations think about the future in serious ways through futures-orientated intelligence and strategic foresight capability-building.  He’s been a professional futurist for over 25 years, initially as a practitioner of and lecturer in strategic foresight, but increasingly in the Defence and National Security context, including participation in NATO’s Strategic Foresight activities. We therefore discuss his views on issues including the various categories of futurists (with a nod to 'Synoptic Generalists'), linkage between futurists and intelligence analysts ('cousins or twins?'), why futurists are lucky that they don't have to persistently deal with counterintelligence, and a thought-leadership paper he's just presented to a gathering of officers from that sector.  Joseph has a strong belief in the need for both rigorous intellectual discipline as well as practical pragmatic utility in ‘real world’ contexts, and this belief lies at the heart of his renowned approach to Futures Studies and strategic foresight.  And before you ask, yes we do discuss the “Futures Cone” that he so popularised, regarding a range of ‘nested class’ futures i.e. Potential, Preposterous, Possible, Plausible, Probable, Preferable, Projected, and Predicted. Meanwhile, and indeed as what was satire becomes ever more a lived reality, Joseph stresses that one must never forget Wildcards… So, we cover all of the above, in what I hope you’ll agree is a fascinating interview.

    55 min
  7. Neil Shearing 'The Fractured Age: how the return of Geopolitics will splinter the Global Economy'

    23 SEPT

    Neil Shearing 'The Fractured Age: how the return of Geopolitics will splinter the Global Economy'

    Series Five  In this episode of The New Abnormal podcast, I interview Neil Shearing, the Group Chief Economist at Capital Economics, where he leads a world-class team of economists and oversees the firm’s global research agenda.  A trusted voice in international finance, Neil is known for his clear, insightful analysis of the global economy - insights that regularly feature in the Financial Times and other major publications, as well as on TV and radio. Earlier in his career, he served as an Economic Adviser at HM Treasury, working on fiscal policy and global economics. In the interview, we discuss his new book 'The Fractured Age' in which he describes how the tectonic plates of the global order are shifting, creating new pressures that will strain long-standing financial structures. Neil explains where the world's new economic fault lines will emerge, and how disruptive they'll be...

    39 min
  8. Gergely Nemeth 'Strategic Foresight and Defence Innovation'

    28 AUG

    Gergely Nemeth 'Strategic Foresight and Defence Innovation'

    Series Five This episode of The New Abnormal podcast features Gergely Nemeth, former Head of Strategic Foresight at NATO and now CEO of Hungary’s Defence Innovation Research Institute (VIKI), who reflects on a career ‘impacted by coincidence’ but marked by increasing responsibility in defence planning, policy, and foresight.  Beginning as an intelligence analyst, he moved through roles in Hungary’s Ministry of Defence, NATO committees, and finally NATO’s Strategic Foresight team, where he revitalized foresight processes disrupted by COVID. A pivotal assignment in Brussels during Russia’s invasion of Ukraine gave him direct experience in international defence collaboration and NATO’s “art of the deal” diplomacy. At VIKI, Nemeth leads efforts in foresight, innovation, and strategic outreach, supporting projects such as XR-based training systems and advancing the robotization of armed forces, which he views as inevitable due to demographic, technological, and battlefield realities. A key point we discuss is the role of hope in futures thinking: Gergely believes that foresight must not only identify risks but also shape preferable futures through agency and action. Above all, he stresses the importance of intellectual honesty, institutional adaptation, and collaborative innovation as vital for building resilient defence ecosystems...

    55 min
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About

The New Abnormal podcast (which has over 250,000 downloads) focuses on 'Now / Next / Why'. Discussing the viewpoints of my guests, who've including activists, creatives, writers, philosophers, strategists, psychologists, lecturers, futurists etc, has led to some fascinating conversations. Re: my bio, I'm a public speaker and futurist. I've written two books - my first went to No1 in the business charts, whilst my second was shortlisted for the 'Business Book of the Year' Awards. (I'll be writing a third as soon as time allows.) So, I hope you enjoy listening to the series - which was set up during the early days of Covid, and is divided into Series One [2020-21] Two [2022] Three [2023] Four [2024] and Five [2025].  All rights reserved. #TheNewAbnormal podcast series © Sean Pillot de Chenecey 2020. 

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  • Creator
    Sean Pillot de Chenecey
  • Years Active
    2019 - 2025
  • Episodes
    195
  • Rating
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    © 2025 The New Abnormal
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