Running Reconnected with Dr. Angie and Kevin Brown

Dr. Angie Brown
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Dr. Angie and Kevin Brown are here to help runners reconnect to themselves to become physically and mentally stronger runners through conversations about training, mindset, nutrition, health and wellness, family, and all the crazy things that life throws at us.  The lessons that we learn from running can carry over into all aspects of our life (and vice versa), and we are here to explore those connections through current research, our experiences, and stories from real people out on the roads and trails, so that you can become a physically and mentally stronger runner and achieve the goals that matter to you. 

  1. 5d ago

    478: My Dog Improved My VO2max - Why A 20 Minute Run Counts More Than You Think (Running Myths Ep. 1)

    Have you ever looked at your schedule and thought, “I only have 20 minutes, so it’s not even worth running”? I get it. As runners, we can easily fall into the trap of believing that a run only counts if it’s long enough, fast enough, or fits perfectly into our training plan. But in this episode, Kevin and I are kicking off a new series where we bust some of those common running myths, starting with the idea that short runs aren't worth it. I actually got a real-life reminder of this when a few short 20-minute run/walks with our rescue dog, Jasper, ended up having more of an impact on my training than I expected. It made me think about how often we dismiss the training we can do because it doesn't look like the training we think we should be doing. We talk about the mindset traps behind this, including all-or-nothing thinking, comparison, productivity, and even the hassle of showering and doing more laundry. We also dig into what the research tells us about maintaining fitness when you have less time to train. The goal isn't to turn every short run into a hard effort. It's to understand that shorter runs can still provide a meaningful stimulus, and sometimes a little running is much more valuable than skipping it altogether. 01:37 – Why We’re Busting Running Myths 02:28 – Are Short Runs Actually Worth It? 03:56 – My Short Runs With Jasper 07:17 – What My Garmin Data Taught Me 10:00 – Why Running Isn’t the Same as Walking 13:23 – The All-or-Nothing Trap 16:54 – When Showering and Laundry Become the Barrier 18:12 – Consistency Over Distance 19:45 – Can Long Runs Increase Injury Risk? 20:59 – What the Research Actually Says 23:19 – What the Hickson Study Says About Frequency 25:39 – What Happens When You Reduce Duration? 26:56 – Why Intensity Still Matters 30:00 – How to Add Intensity When Time Is Short 31:04 – Short Runs Still Count 32:12 – The Jasper Principle Gain access to my new secret podcast, Unbreakable: The Runner's Guide To Injury-Proofing Your Body After 40. Click here: https://www.realliferunners.com/secret Join the Team! -->  https://www.realliferunners.com/team  Thanks for Listening!! Be sure to hit FOLLOW on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player  Leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your ratings and reviews really help and we read each one! Come find us on Instagram and say hi!   Don't forget: The information on this website is not intended to treat or diagnose any medical condition or to provide medical advice. It is intended for general education in the areas of health and wellness. All information contained in this site is intended to be educational in nature. Nothing should be considered medical advice for your specific situation.

  2. Sep 3

    477: Becoming

    What if you stopped asking, “Do you think I can do this?” and started asking, “Who do I need to become to do this?” That’s the conversation Kevin and I are having in this episode. We’re talking about how we are all constantly becoming, whether we’re intentional about it or not. Our circumstances, past experiences, injuries, relationships, and even the opinions of other people can quietly shape who we believe we are and what we think is possible. I want to help you start looking at your running and your life differently. You don’t have to wait until you feel ready to become a marathoner, a stronger runner, a trail runner, or whatever version of yourself you want to grow into. The decision can come first, and then your actions begin to build the evidence. We also talk about giving big goals enough runway, planning ahead while staying flexible, protecting new goals when they’re still fragile, and understanding that sometimes becoming a new version of yourself means making different choices in your life. 01:37 – What Does “Becoming” Really Mean? 05:11 – When Your Circumstances Start Defining You 08:52 – “Do You Think I Can Do This?” & Borrowed Belief 12:00 – Giving Big Goals Enough Runway 14:41 – Planning Your Training When Life Changes 20:33 – Kevin's Journey From Marathoner to Ultramarathoner 25:09 – Becoming the Mom I Want to Be 28:00 – Becoming a Business Owner & Choosing a New Path 29:22 – Why I’m Choosing to Become a Trail Runner 31:45 – The Real Time Commitment Behind Big Goals 32:28 – Choosing Before You Feel Ready 33:45 – What Kevin Didn't Expect About Running 100 Miles 36:23 – Borrow Belief, Then Make It Your Own 40:58 – Protecting a New Identity & New Goals 45:17 – How Growth Can Change Your Relationships 49:31 – Choose Your Identity, Then Let Your Actions Follow 55:46 – Adjust Without Quitting 57:02 – The Power of Intentional Becoming Gain access to my new secret podcast, Unbreakable: The Runner's Guide To Injury-Proofing Your Body After 40. Click here: https://www.realliferunners.com/secret Join the Team! -->  https://www.realliferunners.com/team  Thanks for Listening!! Be sure to hit FOLLOW on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player  Leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your ratings and reviews really help and we read each one! Come find us on Instagram and say hi!   Don't forget: The information on this website is not intended to treat or diagnose any medical condition or to provide medical advice. It is intended for general education in the areas of health and wellness. All information contained in this site is intended to be educational in nature. Nothing should be considered medical advice for your specific situation.

  3. Aug 27

    476: What Running and Sourdough Have in Common

    In this episode, I’m introducing the newly rebranded Running Reconnected Podcast, formerly Real Life Runners. The name reflects what I’ve always loved about this work: helping runners reconnect with their bodies, understand what their bodies are telling them, and recognize how running connects to the rest of their lives. I also share a surprisingly useful lesson from learning to make sourdough with my daughter. Building a starter took patience, consistency, and a willingness to trust the process even when it looked like nothing was happening. Running is the same way. Sometimes the most important progress is happening underneath the surface. We talk about the four foundations I believe runners need most: mindset, training, nutrition, and recovery, along with why progressive overload, sleep, and hard efforts all have their place. Most importantly, I want you to walk away remembering that your training doesn't have to be perfect to be valuable. Every season, every race, and every training cycle can teach you something. 00:00 Welcome to Running Reconnected 01:03 Why I Chose the Name Running Reconnected 02:53 Why I'm Focusing More on Pain and Injury 03:50 A Solo Episode and a Sourdough Story 06:15 Building Your Running Base 09:06 When Progress Seems to Disappear 11:59 Your Body Is the Variable 14:13 The Four Ingredients for Running Progress 19:45 Progressive Overload and Stretch & Folds 28:08 Sleep, Recovery, and Adaptation 33:27 Why Your Training Plan Matters 36:34 Easy Running, Hard Efforts, and Performance 39:36 Learning From Every Training Cycle 41:49 Keep Feeding Your Starter Gain access to my new secret podcast, Unbreakable: The Runner's Guide To Injury-Proofing Your Body After 40. Click here: https://www.realliferunners.com/secret Join the Team! -->  https://www.realliferunners.com/team  Thanks for Listening!! Be sure to hit FOLLOW on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player  Leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your ratings and reviews really help and we read each one! Come find us on Instagram and say hi!   Don't forget: The information on this website is not intended to treat or diagnose any medical condition or to provide medical advice. It is intended for general education in the areas of health and wellness. All information contained in this site is intended to be educational in nature. Nothing should be considered medical advice for your specific situation.

  4. Aug 20

    475: When Your Identity Gets Stripped Away with Heather Lacy

    What happens when something you’ve always used to define yourself suddenly disappears? In this episode, Angie talks with Heather Lacey about identity, running, career changes, injury, and the uncomfortable process of figuring out who you are when a familiar title no longer fits. Heather spent 20 years as a healthcare executive before being laid off. Running became an important coping tool during that transition, but she eventually realized she had transferred the same achievement-driven identity into running. From chasing career titles to chasing PRs, Heather shares what she learned about going all in, the pressure to prove yourself, and what happens when running is temporarily taken away by injury. Heather also shares the story of her son Luke’s scoliosis surgeries during COVID and how running helped her manage the stress of months in the hospital. Her experience ultimately changed how she viewed racing, performance, and success. This conversation is a reminder that you are more than your job, your pace, your race results, or any other title you give yourself. Heather Lacy is a healthcare executive turned running coach, advisor, and author of The Other Side of the Mirror: What Happens When Your Title Disappears. After spending 20 years building her career, Heather experienced firsthand what happens when a title that has shaped your identity is suddenly gone. Her journey led her to explore who we are beyond our careers, achievements, and even our identities as runners. Through her story, Heather encourages others to embrace change, let go of past versions of themselves, and find freedom in discovering who they are in each season of life.  If you want to connect with her, you can find her at the links below! Website: heather@heatherlacy.com Instagram: @heather.lacy Book: The Other Side of the Mirror: What Happens When Your Title Disappears 00:28 Heather's running origin story 05:18 Taking a pause to figure out what's next 07:10 From chasing career titles to chasing PRs 08:51 “You're faster than you think you are” 10:37 Becoming a running coach 13:10 Does a coach have to be fast? 16:18 When running becomes your identity 17:19 Injury and losing the ability to run 19:34 The Other Side of the Mirror 23:05 It's never too late 24:22 Giving yourself time before you pivot 26:05 Luke's scoliosis journey 32:33 When a marathon isn't about the PR 35:45 The power of the running community 37:30 Why Heather wrote her book 40:55 Authenticity and being yourself 42:20 What running means to Heather now Gain access to my new secret podcast, Unbreakable: The Runner's Guide To Injury-Proofing Your Body After 40. Click here: https://www.realliferunners.com/secret Join the Team! -->  https://www.realliferunners.com/team  Thanks for Listening!! Be sure to hit FOLLOW on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player  Leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your ratings and reviews really help and we read each one! Come find us on Instagram and say hi!   Don't forget: The information on this website is not intended to treat or diagnose any medical condition or to provide medical advice. It is intended for general education in the areas of health and wellness. All information contained in this site is intended to be educational in nature. Nothing should be considered medical advice for your specific situation.

  5. Aug 13

    474: The Story You Tell Yourself Before the Run

    What story are you telling yourself before you even get to the starting line? In this episode, Angie and Kevin talk about pre-race anxiety, the stories we create around hard runs, and how those stories can influence both our experience and our physiology. They explore how negativity and confirmation bias can cause us to look for evidence that a run is going badly before it even starts. They also dive into research connecting pre-race anxiety and mood disturbance with changes in immune response after a marathon. Most importantly, this conversation isn't about pretending everything will be perfect. It's about creating a realistic, intentional story, understanding your stress bucket, and learning how to respond when things don't go according to plan. Read the main study referenced in the episode here. Get in before the Team membership closes — special deal here.  04:24 – The Stories We Tell Ourselves  09:38 – How Your Brain Predicts What Will Happen  13:45 – Anxiety, Mood & Immune Response  17:28 – Understanding the Stress Bucket  25:14 – Training Your Mindset  30:45 – Anxiety Is Not the Problem  34:17 – Challenge vs. Threat  37:30 – Reality vs. Toxic Positivity  42:42 – Create Your Race Story  45:37 – “What Is True Right Now?”  50:51 – Building a Pre-Run Routine  56:05 – How Your Story Shapes Performance Gain access to my new secret podcast, Unbreakable: The Runner's Guide To Injury-Proofing Your Body After 40. Click here: https://www.realliferunners.com/secret Join the Team! -->  https://www.realliferunners.com/team  Thanks for Listening!! Be sure to hit FOLLOW on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player  Leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your ratings and reviews really help and we read each one! Come find us on Instagram and say hi!   Don't forget: The information on this website is not intended to treat or diagnose any medical condition or to provide medical advice. It is intended for general education in the areas of health and wellness. All information contained in this site is intended to be educational in nature. Nothing should be considered medical advice for your specific situation.

  6. Aug 6

    473: Breathe Better, Run Better

    Breathing is something we do every moment of every day, yet most runners never give it a second thought. If you've ever found yourself gasping for air during an easy run, battling a painful side stitch, or wondering whether you're "supposed" to breathe through your nose, this episode is for you. In this conversation, Angie and Kevin explore why breathing is one of the most overlooked skills in running—and one that can have a surprisingly big impact on how your runs feel. They explain why breathing isn't about chasing perfection or overthinking every inhale and exhale. Instead, it's about helping your body work more efficiently so running feels smoother, easier, and more sustainable. You'll learn how your breathing influences everything from endurance and running economy to nervous system regulation and recovery. Angie also shares why learning to use your diaphragm changed her own running experience, while Kevin explains the simple techniques that helped him overcome side stitches early in his running journey. Whether you're a brand-new runner or someone who's been logging miles for years, this episode offers practical tools that can improve both your running and everyday life. 00:00 Why breathing deserves more attention in running 04:00 Research on dysfunctional breathing in endurance athletes 09:00 How breathing affects endurance, effort, recovery, and performance 12:00 Common breathing mistakes runners make 16:00 Side stitches: why they happen and what current research says 23:00 Preventing side stitches before they start 26:00 What to do when a side stitch strikes mid-run 30:00 Diaphragmatic breathing and 360-degree breathing explained 35:00 Breathing, core stability, strength training, and mobility 39:00 Nose breathing vs. mouth breathing 43:00 Step-by-step breathing drills to practice 48:00 Box breathing, 4-7-8 breathing, physiological sigh, and pursed-lip breathing 55:00 How to incorporate breathing practice into your training without overthinking it Gain access to my new secret podcast, Unbreakable: The Runner's Guide To Injury-Proofing Your Body After 40. Click here: https://www.realliferunners.com/secret Join the Team! -->  https://www.realliferunners.com/team  Thanks for Listening!! Be sure to hit FOLLOW on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player  Leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your ratings and reviews really help and we read each one! Come find us on Instagram and say hi!   Don't forget: The information on this website is not intended to treat or diagnose any medical condition or to provide medical advice. It is intended for general education in the areas of health and wellness. All information contained in this site is intended to be educational in nature. Nothing should be considered medical advice for your specific situation.

  7. Jul 30

    472: Upper Body Training for Runners — Why, How Often, and What to Do

    When most runners think about strength training, they immediately picture squats, lunges, and deadlifts. After all, running is a leg sport... right? Not exactly. In this episode, Kevin and I are breaking down one of the biggest misconceptions in running: that your upper body doesn't matter. I'm sharing why building strength in your shoulders, back, chest, and core can actually help you run more efficiently, maintain better posture, breathe easier, and reduce unnecessary stress on your lower back. If you've skipped upper body training because you thought it wasn't important or worried it would make you bulky, I think this conversation might change your mind. We also talk about how often runners should train their upper body, how much weight you actually need to use, and why chasing endless high-rep workouts isn't the answer. I'll finish by walking you through my favorite upper body exercises for runners and explain exactly why each one deserves a place in your training. My goal isn't to help you become a bodybuilder. It's to help you become a stronger, healthier, more resilient runner. 00:48 Pushup Myth Busted 02:10 Strength vs Mass Debate 04:57 Running Economy Basics 07:17 Arm Swing Mechanics 13:02 Posture and Breathing 18:06 Spine Rotation Stress 24:11 Breathing Mobility Fixes 28:11 How Often to Lift 29:47 Sets Reps and Load 36:20 Bone Density Benefits 39:47 Push Pull Framework 40:59 Exercise 1 Dumbbell Row 42:38 Row Form Cues 43:27 Pushup Alternatives 47:01 Face Pull Posture Fix 49:34 Pulldown vs Pullup 52:14 Overhead Press Setup 56:18 Triceps Work Options 01:00:32 Pallof Press Anti Twist 01:03:16 Band Pull Aparts 01:04:39 Dead Bug Coordination 01:07:20 Farmers Carry Posture 01:09:17 Build Your Routine 01:11:16 Rotator Cuff Bonus Gain access to my new secret podcast, Unbreakable: The Runner's Guide To Injury-Proofing Your Body After 40. Click here: https://www.realliferunners.com/secret Join the Team! -->  https://www.realliferunners.com/team  Thanks for Listening!! Be sure to hit FOLLOW on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player  Leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your ratings and reviews really help and we read each one! Come find us on Instagram and say hi!   Don't forget: The information on this website is not intended to treat or diagnose any medical condition or to provide medical advice. It is intended for general education in the areas of health and wellness. All information contained in this site is intended to be educational in nature. Nothing should be considered medical advice for your specific situation.

  8. Jul 23

    471: Your Guide to Crewing an Ultramarathon

    Crewing an ultramarathon is so much more than handing someone water and cheering from the sidelines. Over the past few years of crewing Kevin through multiple 100-mile races, I've learned that my role isn't just to support him. It's to help him get to the finish line. That mindset completely changed the way I approach race day. In this episode, I share the lessons I've learned, the mistakes I've made, and the systems we've developed that have made every race smoother than the last. Kevin also shares what it's like from the runner's perspective and what actually helps when you're hours into an ultramarathon and your brain is running low on energy. We talk about everything from treating aid station stops like an F1 pit stop to having the difficult conversations before race day, creating a detailed crew plan, packing for every possible scenario, and remembering that taking care of the crew is just as important as taking care of the runner. Whether you're getting ready to crew your first ultramarathon or you're the runner sending this episode to your support team, I hope these lessons help you feel more prepared and confident. Get your Ultimate Ultramarathon Guide here! 02:05 From Scared Wife to Crew Chief 04:08 Keys 100 Lessons Learned 09:43 What Crewing Really Means 12:52 F1 Pit Stop Mindset 16:38 Crewing With Kids 20:10 Planning Starts Early 21:01 Know the Race Rules 26:42 Pre Race Crew Conversation 37:00 Build the Crew Document 39:30 Assign Roles and Checklists 42:35 Packing and Supply Runs 43:44 Crew Community Help 45:11 Nutrition Planning Backups 46:33 Hydration Strategy Gear 47:32 Clothing Foot Care 49:39 First Aid Comfort Items 53:46 Crew Self Care Logistics 55:11 Pit Stop Checklist Setup 01:01:04 Aid Station Mistakes 01:04:30 Psychology Mood Decisions 01:08:33 DNF Medical Triage 01:14:07 Crew Chief Self Care Gain access to my new secret podcast, Unbreakable: The Runner's Guide To Injury-Proofing Your Body After 40. Click here: https://www.realliferunners.com/secret Join the Team! -->  https://www.realliferunners.com/team  Thanks for Listening!! Be sure to hit FOLLOW on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player  Leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your ratings and reviews really help and we read each one! Come find us on Instagram and say hi!   Don't forget: The information on this website is not intended to treat or diagnose any medical condition or to provide medical advice. It is intended for general education in the areas of health and wellness. All information contained in this site is intended to be educational in nature. Nothing should be considered medical advice for your specific situation.

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Dr. Angie and Kevin Brown are here to help runners reconnect to themselves to become physically and mentally stronger runners through conversations about training, mindset, nutrition, health and wellness, family, and all the crazy things that life throws at us.  The lessons that we learn from running can carry over into all aspects of our life (and vice versa), and we are here to explore those connections through current research, our experiences, and stories from real people out on the roads and trails, so that you can become a physically and mentally stronger runner and achieve the goals that matter to you. 

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