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Aesthetic and Beauty Industry Council

Creating unity, community, conversation and strength, we are your representative association for beauty and aesthetics

  1. 4h ago

    333: What It Really Takes to Go Independent in Aesthetics with Max Hayward from Aesthetic Nurse Software

    What does it really take to build an independent aesthetics practice that can grow without consuming every hour of your week? In this episode of the ABIC Podcast, we’re joined by Max Hayward, co-founder of Aesthetic Nurse Software, to explore the business responsibilities that come with going independent — from consent and clinical records to client retention, stock and cash flow. Max shares how his mum Jo’s experience of starting her own aesthetics practice inspired a family solution that became a growing business, and what that journey taught him about supporting independent practitioners. Together, we explore: The practical challenges of moving from practitioner to business owner.Managing paperwork, clinical photography, treatment records and follow-up.The role of customer service and community in business growth.The business numbers independent practitioners need to understand.Three priorities for starting out, three for the next stage of growth, and practical steps established owners can take now.Whether you’re preparing to go independent or already running your own practice, this conversation offers practical insights into building a business that supports both your clients and your working life. This episode is proudly brought to you by Aesthetic Nurse Software. Enjoying the ABIC Podcast? Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, follow us on Spotify and leave a review. Stay connected with us on Instagram at @aestheticbeautycouncil.

  2. Sep 27

    332: Go Beneath the Surface: Why the Skin Barrier Is Not a Trend, It Is the Future of Skin Health with Sam Appel for OmniDerm

    What if the future of results-driven skin is not about doing more—but knowing when to pause? In this episode of the ABIC Podcast, we're joined by Sam from The Skin Bar for OmniDerm and Dr. Spiller Biomimetic Skincare, to explore why barrier health must sit at the centre of sustainable skin outcomes. Together, we unpack: Why the industry has become conditioned to equate intensity with results How compromised and over-treated skin presents in clinical practice Why clients can mistake peeling, heat and visible reactions for progress The difference between hydrating the skin and supporting its hydro-lipidic barrier How to recognise when skin is ready for correction—and when it needs protection, replenishment or restraint The role of consultation, homecare and client education in barrier recovery How a barrier-intelligent approach can strengthen trust, retention and long-term treatment outcomes This episode challenges the idea that results must come from constantly pushing the skin. The future of advanced skin practice may not be about doing less—it may be about making smarter decisions based on what the skin can tolerate, repair and sustain. This episode is proudly brought to you by OmniDerm, the Australian distributor of Dr. Spiller Biomimetic Skincare. The ABIC Podcast is an independent podcast that operates with the support of our listeners (that’s you!) So if you would like to support the show, we would very much appreciate that. Hit ‘subscribe’ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠** or ‘follow’ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠, **and leave a review if you’re feeling especially generous and please follow us ⁠⁠⁠⁠@aestheticbeautycouncil

  3. Sep 21

    331: The New Client Journey: Why Faster Communication, AI and Trust Are Now Business Critical with Ramey Shehata from Podium Software

    The client journey no longer begins when someone walks through your clinic door. It begins the moment they search, message, call, read a review—or wait for a response. In this episode of the ABIC Podcast, Ramey Shehata from Podium Software joins us to explore why faster communication, AI and trust have become business-critical for clinics, salons, spas and medical aesthetic businesses. Together, we unpack: Why slow responses can erode trust before the relationship begins Where businesses may be losing enquiries, bookings and loyalty without realising it How missed calls and inconsistent follow-up affect the entire client journey Why reviews have become part of the client’s decision-making process How AI and automation can support better service without replacing human care What should never be automated in a high-trust business The communication systems modern clinics should review and strengthen This is an insightful conversation about the client journey before the treatment room—and how becoming easier to contact, trust and return to can support stronger conversion, retention and long-term growth. This episode is proudly brought to you by Podium Software The ABIC Podcast is an independent podcast that operates with the support of our listeners (that’s you!) So if you would like to support the show, we would very much appreciate that. Hit ‘subscribe’ on ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠** or ‘follow’ on ⁠Spotify⁠, **and leave a review if you’re feeling especially generous and please follow us ⁠@aestheticbeautycouncil

  4. Sep 13

    330: The Acne Clock - Timing, Inflammation and the Circadian Science Therapists Can No Longer Ignore with Kris Astroff for Circadia Australia

    Acne is often treated as a stubborn skin problem—but could stubborn thinking be part of the problem? In this episode of the ABIC Podcast, we’re joined by Kris Astroff for Circadia Australia to explore acne through the lens of circadian rhythm, inflammation, barrier recovery, sleep, stress, sebum and treatment timing. Together, we challenge some of the simplified and outdated narratives that continue to shape professional acne care. We examine why aggressive treatment can sometimes work against the skin, how its functions and needs change between day and night, and what therapists should consider when assessing skin readiness, treatment response and client lifestyle. We also discuss the pressure practitioners face to keep pace with evolving evidence, the importance of questioning supplier education and marketing claims, and how clinic owners can build a stronger culture of ongoing learning and evidence-aware practice. This clinically responsible conversation is for clinic owners, skin therapists, dermal clinicians, beauty therapists and educators who want to think more critically about acne and create more informed consultation and treatment practices. This episode is brought to you by Circadia Australia, ABIC Foundation Partner. Learn more at circadia.com.au The ABIC Podcast is an independent podcast that operates with the support of our listeners (that’s you!) So if you would like to support the show, we would very much appreciate that. Hit ‘subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘follow’ on Spotify, and leave a review if you’re feeling especially generous and please follow us @aestheticbeautycouncil

  5. May 24

    328: Inside the Mind of a Success Driver with Maria Enna-Cocciolone from INSKIN Cosmedics

    Today’s episode is a rare opportunity to step inside the mind of someone who has shaped the Australian beauty and aesthetics landscape more than most people realise. For over four decades, Maria Cocciolone, Founder and CEO of INSKIN Cosmedics, has been a driving force behind some of the most respected brands, philosophies, and education frameworks in modern skin health. But this conversation isn’t about products, protocols, or business milestones. It’s about the psychology, values and quiet discipline behind a lifetime of impact. We explore the defining moments that forged her leadership style, the mindset she leans on when navigating uncertainty, and the habits that fuel her ability to innovate without compromise. Maria’s reflections offer uncommon clarity for clinic owners, practitioners, and entrepreneurs who want to build something meaningful, sustainable, and future-focused in an industry that reinvents itself every few years. From decision-making patterns and creative tension, to scaling with purpose and leading with heart—this is a conversation about what truly drives excellence, and why mindset is the real differentiator between businesses that plateau and those that evolve. Let’s dive into this deeply insightful and intimate discussion with the incredible Maria Cocciolone.  The ABIC Podcast is an independent podcast that operates with the support of our listeners (that’s you!) So if you would like to support the show, we would very much appreciate that. Hit ‘subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘follow’ on Spotify, and leave a review if you’re feeling especially generous and please follow us @aestheticbeautycouncil

  6. Mar 15

    327: More Than a Soft Trade: The Clinical and Emotional Intelligence of Beauty with Marketta Gray from Holmesglen Institute

    In this episode, we’re joined by Marketta Gray, Education Manager at Holmesglen Institute, one of Australia’s most respected education providers, for an important discussion on the evolving identity of beauty therapy as a skilled, clinical and highly human profession. Coming into the department from outside the traditional beauty pathway, Marketta offers a fresh perspective on how the beauty industry is perceived — and why that perception often fails to reflect the depth of skill required in modern practice. Together, we explore why beauty is often labelled a “soft trade,” the technical and clinical capabilities expected of today’s practitioners, the connection between beauty therapy and allied health principles, and the vital role emotional intelligence plays in client care, confidence and wellbeing. The conversation also examines resilience in practitioners, ethical responsibility in shaping beauty standards, the importance of normalising diverse skin conditions, and how education must continue to evolve to better bridge the gap between training and real-world industry expectations. This is a thoughtful conversation about professional identity, respect, responsibility, and the future of beauty education 🎧 This episode is brought to you by Holmesglen Institute. The ABIC Podcast is an independent podcast that operates with the support of our listeners (that’s you!) So if you would like to support the show, we would very much appreciate that. Hit ‘subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘follow’ on Spotify, and leave a review if you’re feeling especially generous and please follow us @aestheticbeautycouncil

  7. Jan 9

    326: Beyond the timelime: Making multi-treatment journeys safe and seamless with Nancy Abdou from The Australian Laser and Dermal Institute

    Today we’re joined by Nancy Abdou, Founder and Director of The Australian Dermal & Laser Institute, one of Australia’s most respected dermal educators and an authority in evidence-based treatment planning. With a unique blend of clinical experience, advanced skin expertise, and years spent training therapists across the country, Nancy understands the real-world challenges practitioners face when combining multiple modalities. She works closely with clinics to strengthen consultation skills, refine clinical judgement, and build structured treatment pathways that prioritise safety, barrier integrity, and long-term results. At the ABIC Electrology Symposium, Nancy will be unpacking one of the most complex—but essential—skills in modern practice: safe sequencing. Today, she’s here to give us a deeper look at the frameworks, pitfalls, and mindset shifts that help transform reactive troubleshooting into confident, proactive planning. This episode is brought to you by The Australian Dermal & Laser Institute The ABIC Podcast is an independent podcast that operates with the support of our listeners (that’s you!) So if you would like to support the show, we would very much appreciate that. Hit ‘subscribe’ on Apple Podcasts or ‘follow’ on Spotify, and leave a review if you’re feeling especially generous and please follow us @aestheticbeautycouncil

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