Does AI know what githeri is? Ben and Lilly, both self-proclaimed ‘African optimists’ discuss why the answer to that question matters for the children who need AI most. Nearly four years after his first appearance (unless you caught his episode on parenting last month!), global education expert Dr. Ben Piper returns to Selam & Hello. What began as a revisit of their 2023 conversation, Power in the Culture, becomes an urgent conversation about artificial intelligence in African education: who it serves, who it leaves out, and what it will take for Africa not to miss this window. Ben explains why the worker of 2040 is a seven-year-old today, and why AI models tested almost entirely on rich-world data will miss the child in Kirinyaga or Samburu. He makes the case that AI's biggest promise right now isn't a device in every child's hand, which could widen the gap between rich and poor, but support for the teacher facing 60 learners (or 100 if you are a teacher in Malawi). He also explains why two decades of teacher training in sub-Saharan Africa had the right idea but the wrong methodology. There is real cause for hope. At FLEX 2026, the Africa Foundational Learning Exchange in Lilongwe, Malawi, 42 African governments committed to a shared plan to end learning poverty by 2035. Ben was struck by the 18 ministers and deputy ministers in the room, and points to Senegal, Côte d'Ivoire, Ghana, Botswana, Zambia and Ethiopia, along with parts of Kenya, as countries already showing substantial learning gains, often at national level. Lilly presses him on the creative sector's suspicion of AI data collection, on why education news doesn't draw the same energy as economic news, and on who actually gets the capital in Africa's growth story. Along the way, they revisit a truth Selam & Hello returns to again and again: talent is universal; opportunity is not. This is part one of a two-part conversation. Part two, Ep 117: Africa After Aid: Education, Aid Cuts and What Comes Next, is coming soon. In this episode: 🌍 Why more than half of the world's new workers in 2050 will be African, and what that asks of classrooms today 🗣️ The githeri test: why AI must learn African languages, local context and children's voices 👩🏾🏫 AI for students vs. AI for teachers: which one actually reaches the rural poor 📈 FLEX 2026: 42 African governments, one plan to end learning poverty by 2035 Chapters: 0:00 Coming up 1:23 Welcome to Selam & Hello 1:44 Is it bring-your-husband-to-work day? 3:34 Is there still power in the culture? 6:04 What does Africa's growth really mean? 9:04 Will AI take Africa's jobs? 10:29 Does AI understand African children? 12:26 Should creatives trust AI data collection? 14:31 Why should families care about local AI tools? 16:09 Who does AI in education actually help? 19:06 Can AI coach a teacher with 60 students? 21:51 What makes teacher training work? 26:53 Did the 2025 learning goals happen? 30:10 What made these countries succeed? 31:57 Why doesn't education get Finance Bill energy? 34:39 Is talent universal but opportunity not? 36:49 Is Africa still the place to invest? 39:19 Who gets access to capital in Africa? 44:57 What's next: Africa after aid? About Dr. Ben Piper Dr. Benjamin Piper is Director, Global Education at the Gates Foundation, based in Nairobi, where his work focuses on foundational literacy and numeracy. He has spent more than two decades helping children across Africa learn to read, beginning with doctoral research on teacher training in Ethiopia. He holds a doctorate from Harvard University Graduate School of Education. Learn more: - Dr. Ben Piper on LinkedIn: https://ke.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-piper-42a89a32 Gates Foundation: https://www.gatesfoundation.org/ - FLEX 2026 (ADEA): https://adeanet.org/en/press-releases/42-african-governments-back-new-better-funding-shared-plan-end-learning-poverty-2035 - Ep 45: Power in the Culture (2023): https://youtu.be/pYNCXLlSYww - Ep 113: Raising Kids Between Two Worlds: https://youtu.be/z8O_Z1K7ZR4 - Ep 114: African Parenting Wins and Fails: https://youtu.be/EHuNHoskNZk?si=onrn3LKa2epHlkK6 - Daily Nation, FLEX 2026 coverage: https://nation.africa/kenya/news/education/african-education-ministers-meet-in-malawi-for-foundational-learning-5527086 Selam & Hello is a Pan-African storytelling platform where Africa and her diaspora come to think, reflect and be heard. - Find us: https://linktr.ee/selamandhello - Website: https://www.selamandhello.com/ - Instagram / YouTube: @selamandhello - Email: lilly@selamandhello.com | producer@selamandhello.com Music Credits: Selam & Hello Jingle by Silas Piper All platforms @silaspiper / https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTJMBigciZgiSLzagdsFYLw #SelamAndHello #AfricanPodcast #DrBenPiper #AIinEducation #FoundationalLearning #EducationInAfrica #TeacherTraining