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    口琴、吉他、弦乐队(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之八)

    口琴、吉他、弦乐队(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之八)

    内容简介
    战后芝加哥城市蓝调的核心组合是吉他和口琴,这其实是传统的弦乐队组合。这一期我们以一对重要的吉他和口琴蓝调组合,Sonny Boy Williamson 和 Robert Lockwood Jr 为中心,聊聊弦乐队。


    南方电台最早的黑人音乐节目 King Biscuit Time 和关于黑人的一些刻板印像
    弦乐队,和关于弦乐队的刻板印像
    口琴,简单易用而且便宜的入门乐器
    弦乐队的节奏部,和鼓

    另外,节目中有两首曲子当时没有找到完整的演奏者信息,现在已经查到,并在相关录音信息中补全。其中,Sonny Boy Williamson 1965 年在 King Biscuit Time 里的演出,合作者是吉他手 Houston Stackhouse 和鼓手 James Curtis。Curtis 就是在一开始加盟 King Biscuit 的那位鼓手。

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    参考阅读:

    Palmer, R. (1981). Deep blues. Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England: Penguin Books.

    Field, K. (1993). Harmonicas, harps, and heavy breathers. New York: Simon & Schuster.

    Russell, T. (2007). Country music originals: the legends & the lost. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

    Ward, B. & Huber, P. (2018). A&R pioneers: architects of American roots music on record. Vanderbilt University Press and the Country Music Foundation Press.

    Birnbaum, L. (2013). Before Elvis: the prehistory of rock 'n' roll. Lanham, Md.: Scarecrow Press.

    Fish, Scott K. (1982), History of Rock Drumming, Part I-II. Modern Drummer, Issue 33, Issue 34, 1982

    相关录音:

    I don't know,Sonny Boy Williams II 词曲, Sonny Boy Williams II/Robert Lockwood Jr/Luther Tucker/Willie Dixon/Fred Below 演奏, 1957,Checker

    Love Me Do, Lennon–McCartney 词曲, the Beatles 演奏, 1962, Parlophone

    Black and Tan Fantasy , Duke Ellington/Bubber Miley 作曲,Duke Ellington and his Washingtonians 演奏,1927, Victor

    The Little Old Log Cabin In The Lane,Will S. Hays 作曲,Fiddlin' John Carson 演奏,1923,Okeh

    Don't Let Your Deal Go Down Blues, Norman Woodlieff 词曲,Charlie Poole with The North Carolina Ramblers 演奏,1925,Columbia

    Sitting On Top Of The World,Walter Vinson/Lonnie Chatmon 词曲, Mississippi Sheiks 演奏, 1930, Okeh

    A Fiddler's Convention in Georgia, Pt. 1,Clayton McMichen/Gid Tanner/Riley Puckett/Bob Nichols/Fate Norris/Bert Layne 演奏,1927,

    Peg O' My Heart, Alfred Bryan 词/Fred Fisher 曲,Harmonicats 演奏,1947,Vitacoustic Records

    Train Kept A-Rollin', Tiny Bradshaw/Lois Mann/Howard Kay 词曲, the YardBirds 演奏, 1966, Reelin’ In The Years Productions

    Bye Bye Bird, Willie Dixon/Sonny Boy Williamson II 词曲, Sonny Boy Williamson II/the Yardbirds, 1966, Fontana

    Pot Licker Blues, El Watson 作曲, El Watson/Charles Johnson 演奏, 1927, Victor

    John Henry, 传统民谣,De Ford Bailey 演奏,1932, Victor

    The Wreck of the Old 97, G. B. Grayson/Henry Whitter 词曲,Vernon Dalhart/Carson Robison 演奏, 1924, Victor

    It's King Biscuit Time, Sonny Boy Williamson II/Houston Stackhouse/James Curtis 演奏, John William “Sonny” Payne 主持, 1965, Arhoolie

    Take A Little Walk with Me,Robert Lockwood Jr 词曲, Robert Lockwood Jr/Alfred Elkins 演奏, 1941, Bluebird

    Hot Dogs, George Perkins 词曲, Blind Lemon Jefferson 演奏, 1927, Paramount

    That's All Right, Arthur Crudup 词曲,Elvis Presley/Scotty Moore/Bill Black 演奏, 1954, Sun

    Heartbreak Hotel, Mae Boren Axton/Tommy Durden/Elvis Presley 词曲, Elvis Presley/Scotty Moore/Bill Black/Chet Atkins/Floyd Cramer 演奏, 1956, Victor

    Eyesight to the Blind, Sonny Boy Williamson II 词曲, Sonny Boy Williamson II/Elmore James/Joe Willie Wilkins/Willie Love/Joe Dyson 演奏, 1951, Trumpet

    Eyesight to the Blind(The Hawker), Sonny Boy Williamson II 词曲, The Who 演奏, 1969, Polydor

    Dust My Broom, Robert Johnson 词曲,Robert Lockwood Jr/Sunnyland Slim/Ernest 'Big' Crawford/Alfred Wallace 演奏, 1951, Mer

    • 59 min
    EP16: 制造城市蓝调(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之七)

    EP16: 制造城市蓝调(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之七)

    内容简介
    1930 年代芝加哥城市蓝调的兴起。


    介绍一下二战前 A&R 的基本工作
    A&R 制造/推进的一些音乐:answer song 和 event song
    几个 A&R,J Mayo Williams,Aletha Dickerson,和 Lester Melrose,看他们如何打造城市蓝调
    几组承起启后的重要艺人,Hokum Boys,Memphis Minnie,Harlem Hamfats

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    参考阅读

    Kelley, N. (2005). R&B, rhythm and business: the political economy of Black music. New York: Akashic Books.

    Ward, B. & Huber, P. (2018). A&R pioneers: architects of American roots music on record. Vanderbilt University Press and the Country Music Foundation Press.

    Garon, P. & Garon, B. (1992). Woman with guitar: Memphis Minnie's blues. New York: Da Capo Press.

    Birnbaum, L. (2013). Before Elvis: the prehistory of rock 'n' roll. Lanham, Md.: Scarecrow Press.

    Santelli, R. & Guthrie, N. (2012). This land is your land: Woody Guthrie and the journey of an American folk song. Philadelphia: Running Press.

    相关录音:

    Shake that thing, Papa Charlie Jackson 词曲/演奏, 1925, Paramount

    God Bless America,Irvin Berlin 词曲,Kate Smith 演唱,Jack Miller 指挥乐队和合唱队,1939, Victor

    This Land is Your Land, Woody Guthrie 词曲/演奏, 1944, Asch Recordings

    [Little Darling, Pal of Mine(https://youtu.be/F_dRyqNPlUw), A.P. Carter 词曲,Carter Family 演奏,1928,Victor

    When the World's On Fire,A.P. Carter/Virginia Suber 词曲,Carter Family 演奏,1930,Victor

    The Death of Floyd Collins,Andrew Jenkins 牧师词曲,Vernon Dalhart/Lou Raderman/Carson Robison 演奏,1926,Victor

    When the Levee Breaks,John Bonham/John Paul Jones/Memphis Minnie/Jimmy Page/Robert Plant 词曲,Led Zeppelin 演奏,1971,Atlantic

    When the Levee Breaks,Kansas Joe McCoy/Memphis Minnie 词曲/演奏,1929,Columbia

    Back-Water Blues,Bessie Smith 词曲,Bessie Smith/James P Johnson 演奏,1927,Columbia

    Your Mother's Son-In-Law,Alberta Nichols/Mann Holiner 词曲,Billie Holiday/Benny Goodman 乐队演奏,1933,Columbia

    Summertime,DuBose Heyward/Ira Gershwin 词,George Gershwin 曲,Bellie Holiday 演唱,1936,Vocalion

    Selling That Stuff,Thomas Dorsey 词曲,The Hokum Boys 演奏,1928,Paramount

    Bumble Bee,Memphis Minnie 词曲,Memphis Minnie/Kansas Joe 演奏,1930,Vocalion

    Me and My Chauffeur Blues,Memphis Minnie 词曲,Memphis Minnie/Son Joe 演奏,1941,OKeh

    Oh! Red,Joe McCoy 词曲,Harlem Hamfats 演奏,1936,Decca

    The Weed Smoker's Dream,Joe McCoy 词曲,Harlem Hamfats 演奏,1936,Decca

    Why Don't You Do Right?,Joe McCoy 词曲,Lil Green/Big Bill Broonzy/Simeon Henry/Ransom Knowling 演奏,1941,Bluebird

    Why Don't You Do Right?,Joe McCoy 词曲,Peggy Lee/Benny Goodman 乐队演奏,1942,Columbia

    I'm Gonna Move To The Outskirts Of Town,Casey Bill Weldon/Roy Jacobs 词曲,Louis Jordan and His Tympany Five 演奏,1941,Decca

    We Gonna Move (To the Outskirts of Town) ,Casey Bill Weldon 词曲/演奏,1936,Vocalion

    Ration Blues,Louis Jordan/Antonio Cosey/Collenane Clark 词曲,Louis and the Tympany Five 演奏,1943,Decca

    Rock Around the Clock,Max C. Freedman/James E. Myers 词曲,Bill Haley & His Comets 演奏,1954,Decca

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    • 57 min
    EP15: 1928,吉他遇到钢琴(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之六)

    EP15: 1928,吉他遇到钢琴(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之六)

    简介
    讨论一下 1928 年出版的黑人流行音乐历史性唱片《How Long, How Long Blues》。


    乡村蓝调为什么要城市化
    早年唱片业音乐圈对乡村音乐和民间艺人的偏见
    钢琴和吉他的组合为什么会在 1928 年诞生
    机械录音时代的音质

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    参考阅读

    Wald, E. (2010). The blues: a very short introduction. New York: Oxford University Press.

    Suisman, D. (2009). Selling sounds: the commercial revolution in American music. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.

    Stenstadvold, E. (2013). 'We hate the guitar': Prejudice and polemic in the music press in early 19th-century Europe. Early Music, 41(4), 595-604.

    相关录音:

    It's Tight Like That, Tampa Red/Georgia Tom 作曲,Tampa Red/Georgia Tom 演奏, 1928, Vocalion

    How Long, How Long Blues,Leroy Carr 作曲,Leroy Carr/Scrapper Blackwell 演奏,1928, Vocalion

    Interview #1 (Plantation Recording), Muddy Waters/Alan Lomax, 1941, Library of Congress

    Bottle It Up and Go, Tommy McClennan 演奏,1939,Bluebird

    Hot Fingers,Eddie Lang/Lonnie Johnson 作曲,Eddie Lang/Lonnie Johnson 演奏,1929,Okeh

    Maple Leaf Rag,Scott Joplin 作曲和演奏,1899 年自动钢琴录音,Midi 复现

    How Long Daddy, How Long,Ida Cox 作曲,Ida Cox/Papa Charlie Jackson 演奏,1926,Paramount

    Fore Day Creep,Jesse Crump 作曲,Ida Cox/Jesse Crump 演奏,1927,Paramount

    Fore Day Creep,Jesse Crump 作曲,Ida Cox And Her All-Star Band 演奏,1939,Vocalion

    The Whistling Coon,Sam Devere 作曲,George Washington Johnson 演奏,1891,Columbia

    The Little Old Log Cabin In The Lane,Will S. Hays 作曲,Fiddlin' John Carson 演奏,1923,Okeh

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    • 35 min
    EP14: 从大乐队到小乐团(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之五)

    EP14: 从大乐队到小乐团(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之五)

    讨论一下为什么二战前盛极一时的大乐队会消失,如何瘦身成为 R&B 小乐团。


    禁酒令和流行音乐
    大萧条时期的大乐队
    二战对大乐队的影响
    小乐队的音乐风格
    Boogie-Woogie 走红
    电吉他的声音

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    参考阅读

    Ake, D. A. (2002). Jazz cultures. Berkeley: University of California Press.

    Townsend, P. (2007). Pearl Harbor jazz: change in popular music in the early 1940s (1st ed). Jackson: University Press of Mississippi.

    Waksman, S. (1999). Instruments of desire: the electric guitar and the shaping of musical experience. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press.

    Sanjek, R. (1988). American popular music and its business: the first four hundred years, Vol. III, From 1900 to 1984. New York: Oxford University Press.

    相关录音:

    Walk, Don't Run, Johnny Smith 作曲,The Ventures 演奏, 1960, Dolton

    Sing, Sing, Sing,Louis Prima 作曲,Benny Goodman 和他的乐队演奏,1936, RCA Victor

    That'll be the Day, Jerry Allison, Buddy Holly,Norman Petty 创作,Buddy Holly & the Crickets 演奏,1957,Bruswick

    Boogie Woogie Stomp, Albert Ammons 作曲/演奏,1939,Blue Note

    Caldonia Boogie,Fleecie Moore 作曲,Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five 演奏,1945,Decca

    Milkcow Blues Boogie,Kokomo Arnold 作曲,Elvis Presley/Scotty Moore/Bill Black 演奏, 1955,Sun

    That Ain't Right,Nat King Cole/Irving Mills 作曲,King Cole Trio 演奏,1942,Decca

    West End Blues,Joe "King" Oliver 作曲,Louis Armstrong and His Hot Five 演奏,1928,Okeh

    Mean Old World,T-Bone Walker/Marl Young 作曲,T-Bone Walker/Freddie Slack/Jud DeNaut/Dave Coleman 演奏,1945,Capitol

    Solo Flight,Charlie Christian/Benny Goodman/Jimmy Mundy 作曲,Charlie Christian/Benny Goodman and His Orchestra 演奏,1944,Columbia

    T-Bone Boogie,Big Joe Turner/Pete Johnson/T-Bone Walker/Marl Young 作曲,T-Bone Walker with Marl Young's Orchestra 演奏,1945,Rhumboogie

    Ain't That Just Like a Woman(They'll Do It Every Time),Claude Demetrius/Fleecie Moore 作曲,Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five 演奏,1946,Decca

    Roll Over Beethoven,Chuck Berry 作曲,Chuck Berry and his Combo 演奏,1956,Chess

    Johnny B Goode,Chuck Berry 作曲,Chuck Berry/Lafayette Leake/Willie Dixon/Fred Below 演奏,1958,Chess

    Promised Land,Chuck Berry 作曲/演奏,1964,Chess

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    • 30 min
    EP13: 寻找民歌,创造古典(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之四)

    EP13: 寻找民歌,创造古典(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之四)

    简介
    从类型音乐榜单引出的关于音乐类型的话题:


    为什么需要类型音乐榜单?这些榜单是如何统计的?
    最古老的现代类型音乐:民歌;
    民歌-古典框架下的音乐优劣论;
    作为乐器之王的钢琴;
    Whiteman 的 Aeolian Hall 音乐会让白人接受爵士;
    民歌-古典-流行框架下的音乐优劣论。

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    参考阅读

    Gary Trust and Keith Caulfield, How the Charts Have Evolved Across Billboard's History: The Hot 100, Billboard 200 & More

    Gelbart, M. (2007). The invention of "folk music" and "art music": emerging categories from Ossian to Wagner. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press.

    Filene, B. (2000). Romancing the folk: public memory & American roots music. Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press.

    Taruskin, R. (2005). The Oxford history of Western music. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

    Wald, E. (2009). How the Beatles destroyed rock 'n' roll: an alternative history of American popular music. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

    Sanjek, R. (1988). American popular music and its business: the first four hundred years. Vol. 2. New York: Oxford University Press.

    ARNOLD-FORSTER TOM. Dr. Billy Taylor, “America's Classical Music,” and the Role of the Jazz Ambassador. Journal of American Studies. 2017;51(1):117-139. doi:10.1017/S0021875815002662

    A Celebration of Paul Whiteman's Historic Aeolian Hall Concert of February 12, 1924

    Jessie Wright-Mendoza, When Jazz Was a Public Health Crisis

    相关录音:

    Goodnight Irene, Hudie Ledbetter-Alan Lomax 词曲,Gordon Jenkins and his Orchestra and the Weavers 演绎, 1950 年 Decca 发行

    Chattanoogie Shoe Shine Boy, Harry Stone-Jack Stapp 词曲,Red Foley 演唱,1950 年 Decca 发行

    Maple Leaf Rag,Scott Joplin 作曲和演奏,1899 年自动钢琴录音,Midi 复现

    Livery Stable Blues,Ray Lopez and Alcide Nunez 作曲,Original Dixieland Jass Band 演奏,1917 年 Victor 发行

    Whispering,John Schonberger 作曲,Paul Whiteman and His Ambassador Orchestera 演奏,1920 年 Victor 发行

    Alexander’s Ragtime Band,Irving Berlin 词曲,Arthur Collins and Byron G. Harlan 演唱,1911 年 Victor 发行

    Kitten On The Keys,Zez Confrey 作曲和演奏,1921 年自动钢琴录音,Midi 复现

    Rhapsody In Blue,George Gershwin 作曲,Ferdle Grofé 编曲,George Gershwin 钢琴,Paul Whiteman and His Concert Orchestra 乐队伴奏,1924 年 Victor 发行

    Changes,Walter Donaldson 词曲,Paul Whiteman and His Orchestra 演奏,其中人声 Bing Crosby,Al Rinker,Harry Barris,Jack Fulton,Charles Gaylord,Austin Young,短号 Bix Beiderbecke,1927 年 Victor 发行

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    • 1 hr 11 min
    Episode 12: 无人注意的大禁播(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之三)

    Episode 12: 无人注意的大禁播(「为什么会有摇滚」系列之三)

    对摇滚的诞生影响最大,但大部分人应该都不知道的一件事,就是表演艺术著作权管理组织 BMI 的诞生。



    ASCAP 作为版权组织是怎么挣钱和分钱的;
    电台为什么需要 BMI 来对抗 ASCAP;
    美国广播史上的大禁播:优质 vs 廉价;
    BMI 的出现如何鼓励新音乐。


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    主要参考文献



    Ennis, P. H. (1992). The seventh stream: the emergence of rocknroll in American popular music. Wesleyan University Press.
    Sanjek, R. (1988). American popular music and its business: the first four hundred years. Vol. 3. New York: Oxford University Press.
    Sterling, C. H. & Kittross, J. M. (2002). Stay tuned: a history of American broadcasting (3rd ed). Mahwah, N.J.: Lawrence Erlbaum Associates.


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