The Lead Up Podcast

Mike Harbour

You are looking for quick answers and shortcuts. You want better results as a leader. All leaders desire better performance out of themselves and their teams, but you don't have time to waste. The Lead Up Podcast is your place for quick, actionable leadership lessons to get on the express lane of leading others. Great leaders know the way, show the way, and go the way. The best leaders step up to lead, they don't wait on others, they never stop working to make themselves better. They understand that everything rises and falls on leadership. The Lead Up Podcast exists to share ideas we have learned along the way and best practices in our interviews of thoughts leaders from around the globe.

  1. 3d ago

    Episode 500 - 500 Never Quit Moments: The Behavior Behind the Breakthrough

    In this milestone 500th episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour reflects on the lessons, conversations, and never-quit moments that have shaped the show since its beginning in 2019. But this episode isn't simply a celebration of reaching 500. It's about the behavior behind the breakthrough. We tend to see the milestone, the achievement, or the breakthrough. What we don't always see are the small decisions, habits, preparation, discipline, doubt, recommitment, and repeated choices that made that moment possible. Drawing lessons from 500 episodes and the remarkable CEOs, healthcare executives, authors, founders, coaches, and leaders who have joined him along the way, Mike explores one of the most important lessons the podcast has taught him: You don't rise to the milestone. You repeat your way there. Mike connects that lesson directly to leadership. Elite leadership isn't built through one great speech, strategy session, meeting, or big decision. It's built by repeatedly practicing the thinking, habits, conversations, standards, and behaviors that eventually become trust, credibility, accountability, culture, and results. In this episode, Mike discusses: Why milestones aren't built in moments—they're built in behaviors Why you don't rise to elite leadership—you repeat your way there How repetition eventually becomes reputation Why the best leaders don't necessarily have easier roads, but stronger commitments Why perseverance isn't stubbornness, but staying committed to the purpose while being willing to change the plan Why preparation is one of the clearest signals that you care Why leaders need habits that are stronger than their moods As you listen, Mike challenges you to consider your own leadership: What is your never-quit moment right now? Where are you tired, discouraged, or questioning whether the effort is worth it? And perhaps more importantly: What behavior would prove that you haven't quit? Because breakthroughs rarely happen in one dramatic moment. They're built through hundreds of smaller decisions stacked on top of each other—one conversation, one habit, one act of courage, one moment of discipline, and one decision to keep leading. To every guest, listener, leader, and friend who has been part of the first 500 episodes of the Lead Up Podcast: thank you. We're just getting started. If you found this episode valuable, please leave a 5-star review and share it with another leader. To continue the conversation or learn how Harbour Resources helps healthcare organizations turn better leadership thinking into consistent leadership behaviors that drive stronger organizational results, reach out to Mike at Mike@harbourresources.com.

  2. Aug 20

    Episode 499 The Leadership Strategy Behind Top 10% Patient Satisfaction with Tracey Carson

    Great hospital results rarely come from a single initiative. They come from leaders who get clear about what matters, align their teams around those priorities, and then have the discipline to follow through consistently. In this episode of The Lead Up Podcast, Mike Harbour sits down with Tracey Carson, CNO at UNC Health Johnston, for a practical conversation about the leadership practices behind strong patient experience, employee retention, accountability, and organizational performance. Tracey and her team have moved patient satisfaction into the top 10th percentile nationally, earned Leapfrog A ratings at both hospitals, achieved a CMS four-star rating, and maintained employee turnover under 14%. Throughout the conversation, Tracey shares what is happening behind those results. Mike and Tracey explore how UNC Health Johnston has aligned nursing leaders around a clear set of priorities, created transparency through scorecards and daily measurement, and built accountability into the everyday rhythm of the organization. Tracey also explains why knowing the “why behind the what” is critical when leaders are trying to turn expectations into behaviors that last. They also discuss one of the biggest challenges facing healthcare leaders today: protecting leaders’ time so they can actually lead. Tracey shares why her nurse leaders have permission to say no to meetings that don’t support their priorities, allowing them to spend more time on their units, rounding with patients, connecting with staff, coaching their people, and removing barriers. This conversation is a reminder that improving patient experience and building a high-performing culture doesn’t always require another new initiative. Often, it requires greater clarity, alignment, accountability, and consistency around the practices we already know matter. In this episode, you’ll learn: How UNC Health Johnston moved patient satisfaction into the top 10th percentile nationally—and the leadership practices behind those results. How aligning leaders around a small number of priorities creates greater accountability, consistency, and organizational focus. Why protecting leaders’ time from unnecessary meetings allows them to spend more time with patients, employees, and developing their teams. How using data, rounding, and clear expectations helps leaders identify barriers, improve performance, and build a culture where people want to stay. About Tracey Carson Tracey Carson is Chief Nursing Officer at UNC Health Johnston in North Carolina, where she has spent more than 18 years helping advance patient care, nursing leadership, and organizational performance. Under her leadership, nursing teams have developed a disciplined approach to patient safety, patient experience, leadership rounding, accountability, and continuous improvement. UNC Health Johnston has achieved top-decile patient satisfaction results, Leapfrog A ratings at both hospitals, a CMS four-star rating, and employee turnover below industry norms. Tracey is passionate about developing healthcare leaders, creating clear expectations, removing barriers for frontline teams, and building a culture where patients remain at the center of care. Connect with Tracey LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracey-carson-ba784b37/ UNC Health Johnston If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe to The Lead Up Podcast, leave a review, and share it with another healthcare leader who is working to improve patient experience, strengthen accountability, and build a culture where both patients and employees can thrive.

  3. Aug 13

    Episode 498 8 Leadership Mistakes Costing You Great People

    In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour challenges the familiar idea that people quit jobs and argues that, more often than we realize, they’re responding to the leadership environment around them. Turnover may be the number that eventually gets an executive’s attention, but it’s often a lagging indicator. The conditions that lead a good employee to disengage, lose trust, or eventually leave can begin months—or even years—before a resignation ever hits your desk. Drawing from more than 30 years of his work with healthcare leaders, Mike shares eight critical leadership failures he continues to see across teams and organizations. More importantly, he challenges leaders to stop looking only at the metrics and start paying attention to the leadership behaviors that may be predicting where those metrics are headed. In this episode, Mike discusses: Why turnover should be viewed as a lagging indicator What leaders should be watching before engagement and retention begin to decline Why leadership isn’t a “soft skill,” but an essential business skill How seemingly small leadership behaviors can quietly shape culture Why trust, accountability, growth, and communication matter to retention How urgency can sometimes create unintended leadership problems Why leaders need to examine the environment they’re creating—not just the employees who leave A simple way to grade yourself, your leadership team, and your organization before the metrics tell you there’s a problem As you listen, Mike challenges you to be honest about what’s happening inside your organization and ask: If your best people left tomorrow, what would they say they were really leaving? If you’re working to improve retention, engagement, culture, and organizational performance, this episode will help you look beyond the numbers and identify the leadership behaviors that may be influencing them long before they appear on your dashboard. If you found this episode valuable, please leave a 5-star review and share it with another leader. To continue the conversation or learn how Harbour Resources can help your organization develop leaders who drive stronger organizational results, reach out to Mike at Mike@harbourresources.com.

  4. Aug 7

    Episode 497 Elite Leader Series with Marcy Doderer

    Healthcare doesn't need leaders who are simply prepared for today's challenges. It needs leaders who are willing to rethink tomorrow. In this episode of The Lead Up Podcast, Mike Harbour sits down with Marcy Doderer, President and CEO of Arkansas Children's and Chair of the Children's Hospital Association, for a conversation about the future of healthcare leadership, innovation, and organizational transformation. Throughout the discussion, Marcy shares the mindset that has guided her leadership through more than a decade of change. From developing leaders for jobs that don't yet exist to reimagining how healthcare delivers value, she challenges leaders to move beyond preserving the current system and begin building what's next. Mike and Marcy also explore the importance of hiring for potential, cultivating curiosity, embracing innovation, and creating organizations that are prepared to thrive in a rapidly changing healthcare landscape. Whether you're leading a health system, hospital, department, or executive team, this conversation will challenge your assumptions and encourage you to think differently about what leadership requires in the years ahead. In this episode, you'll learn: Why tomorrow's leaders should be hired for potential—not just experience. Why healthcare organizations must stop focusing on preserving what is and start building what could be. How innovation and curiosity prepare organizations for an uncertain future. Why the future of healthcare is shifting from paying to care toward paying to cure. How great leaders create cultures that embrace change rather than resist it. Why developing leaders today requires preparing them for challenges that don't yet exist. Practical ways healthcare executives can think differently about leadership, talent, and the future of their organizations. About Marcy Doderer Marcy Doderer is President and CEO of Arkansas Children's and serves as Chair of the Children's Hospital Association. She has led one of the nation's premier pediatric health systems through significant growth and transformation while helping shape the future of children's healthcare across the country. Throughout her career, Marcy has been recognized for her commitment to leadership development, innovation, and the advancement of the health of children and families. Connect with Marcy LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcy-doderer-0100aa18/ Arkansas Children's: https://www.archildrens.org/ If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to The Lead Up Podcast, leave a review, and share it with another healthcare leader who is committed to building stronger leaders and healthier organizations.

  5. Jul 30

    Episode 496 WIN TODAY with Joshua Lifrak

    Pressure doesn't create leaders. It reveals them. Every day, healthcare leaders face situations they didn't choose—staffing shortages, difficult conversations, unexpected setbacks, and decisions that impact patients, employees, and entire organizations. The event isn't always within your control. Your response is. In this episode of The Lead Up Podcast, Mike Harbour sits down with Joshua Lifrak, mental performance coach, leadership consultant, and author of Win Today. Joshua also served as part of the leadership team that helped develop the championship mindset behind the Chicago Cubs' historic World Series victory. Drawing from his work with professional athletes, Fortune 500 organizations, and championship teams, Joshua shares practical strategies for developing the mental habits that help leaders perform at their best when the pressure is highest. Together, Mike and Joshua explore why leadership habits are rooted in our thinking, how self-belief influences performance, and why championship cultures are built long before championship results ever appear. Whether you're leading a hospital, a department, or an executive team, the principles discussed in this conversation will help you think more intentionally, respond more effectively, and lead with greater confidence. In this episode, you'll learn: Why you can never outperform your own self-belief. The simple formula that changes how leaders respond under pressure. Why elite performers recover faster instead of dwelling longer. How defining your story influences the way you lead. What healthcare leaders can learn from the Chicago Cubs' championship culture. Why great organizations build winning habits long before they achieve winning results. Practical ways to develop resilience, improve focus, and lead more intentionally every day. About Joshua Lifrak Joshua Lifrak is a mental performance coach, leadership consultant, and author of Win Today. He has worked with professional athletes, Fortune 500 organizations, and served as part of the leadership team behind the Chicago Cubs' historic World Series championship. Today, Joshua helps leaders and teams strengthen the mental side of performance so they can thrive under pressure, lead with confidence, and consistently perform at their best. Connect with Joshua Website: https://joshualifrak.com/ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-lifrak-59ab5442/ If this episode encouraged you, please subscribe to The Lead Up Podcast, leave a review, and share it with another healthcare leader who is committed to developing stronger leaders and healthier organizations.

  6. Jul 24

    Episode 495 Leadership Fails When Human Needs Are Ignored

    In this episode of the Lead Up Podcast, host Mike Harbour explores why most leadership problems don't begin with poor strategy, but instead with unmet human needs. Using Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs as a foundation and applying it through the Harbour Resources lens, Mike shares how elite leaders intentionally build cultures where people feel secure, connected, valued, and inspired. Rather than treating culture as a set of values on the wall, he explains how meeting fundamental human needs creates the conditions for stronger engagement, higher performance, better retention, and lasting organizational success. In this episode, Mike discusses: Why leadership breakdowns often begin with unmet human needs rather than bad strategy How operational stability and psychological safety create the foundation for high-performing teams Why people don't resist change—they resist loss The role belonging, recognition, and purpose play in strengthening culture and reducing turnover How leaders can use the "Culture Hierarchy" to evaluate and improve their organization's performance Why leadership is ultimately about meeting human needs at scale If you're looking to build a stronger culture, improve employee engagement, increase retention, and develop more effective leaders, this episode provides a practical framework you can begin applying with your leadership team today. If you found this episode valuable, please leave a 5-star review and share it with another leader. To continue the conversation or learn how Harbour Resources can help your organization build a stronger leadership culture, reach out to Mike at Mike@harbourresources.com.

  7. Jul 17

    Episode 494 The Healer Revolution with Richie Splitt

    Healthcare has never lacked talented people. What's lacking in many organizations is the ability to stay connected to the purpose that brought those people into healthcare in the first place. In this episode of The Lead Up Podcast, Mike Harbour sits down with former hospital CEO Richie Splitt to explore what it really takes to build a culture where people don't just perform—they thrive. Drawing from more than 25 years of healthcare leadership and many of the ideas behind his new book, The Healer Revolution: How to Restore the Soul of Healthcare, Richie shares lessons learned while leading through an EF5 tornado, the COVID-19 pandemic, organizational transformation, and the everyday pressures that come with serving patients and leading people. Together, Mike and Richie discuss why healthcare leaders must move beyond simply managing operations and begin restoring purpose, trust, and connection throughout their organizations. In this episode, you'll learn: Why purpose is what sustains great leaders. How culture is revealed during moments of crisis. Why leadership must extend beyond metrics and operational performance. The importance of developing leaders who can communicate vision with clarity. How executive coaching helps leaders overcome blind spots and grow. Why accountability and love aren't opposites—they're partners. Practical ways to build trust, reinforce values, and create lasting cultural change. Whether you're a hospital CEO, executive leader, director, or manager, this conversation offers practical insights to help you lead with greater purpose while navigating the realities of today's healthcare environment. About Richie Splitt Richie Splitt is a veteran healthcare executive with more than 25 years of leadership experience, including serving as CEO of Norman Regional Health System. He is the author of The Healer Revolution: How to Restore the Soul of Healthcare, in which he challenges healthcare leaders to reconnect their organizations to purpose, service, and a culture of healing. Connect with Richie Website: https://healerrevolution.org/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richiesplittfache/ If this episode encouraged you, please subscribe to The Lead Up Podcast, leave a review, and share it with another healthcare leader who is committed to building stronger leaders and healthier organizations.

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You are looking for quick answers and shortcuts. You want better results as a leader. All leaders desire better performance out of themselves and their teams, but you don't have time to waste. The Lead Up Podcast is your place for quick, actionable leadership lessons to get on the express lane of leading others. Great leaders know the way, show the way, and go the way. The best leaders step up to lead, they don't wait on others, they never stop working to make themselves better. They understand that everything rises and falls on leadership. The Lead Up Podcast exists to share ideas we have learned along the way and best practices in our interviews of thoughts leaders from around the globe.