Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel

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The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself.

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Processing Centers | Threes and Ones

In this installment on the Enneagram’s processing centers, Jeff Cook and Katie Whitlock engage When Working Together Doesn’t Work by Joey Schewee, focusing on the doing center through Types One and Three. The conversation explores how these types assess life through action—how progress, productivity, and accomplishment become the primary lens for determining whether things are working. For Ones and Threes, doing is not secondary; it is the ground of evaluation, the place where identity and meaning begin to take shape.

1h 33m
2D AGO

KJ Ramsey | Joy and Pain

What can joy survive? In this conversation, Jeff Cook sits down with licensed trauma therapist and author KJ Ramsey to explore the surprising relationship between pain, joy, identity, and healing. Drawing from her upcoming memoir The Place Between Our Pain, KJ shares how chronic illness, trauma, and the limits of control reshape our understanding of time, self, and what it means to be held. Together, Jeff and KJ examine the tension between despair and hope, the role of the Enneagram in personal growth, and the deep question beneath it all: Can joy still exist when everything falls apart? This episode moves through themes of: Trauma and post-traumatic growthThe “true self” vs. personalityChronic illness and the experience of timeJoy as presence, not performanceAgency, embodiment, and survivalFaith, meaning, and the limits of understanding Whether you're navigating suffering, exploring the Enneagram, or asking deeper philosophical questions about identity and purpose—this conversation offers both honesty and hope. 📘 KJ Ramsey’s Book The Place Between Our Pain: A Memoir of What Joy Can Survive → Pre-order & learn more: https://www.kjramsey.com 🌐 KJ Ramsey Website → https://www.kjramsey.com 🎙️ Around the Circle The Enneagram publishing platform: Podcast • Books • Video • Ongoing formation → Join the community: https://www.aroundthecircle.org → Become a member: https://www.patreon.com/aroundthecircle 📅 Live Event (Colorado) KJ Ramsey + Suzanne Stabile → April 17–18 : HERE

1h 2m
3D AGO

"Early Access" | Enneagram 9 | Blake in Utah

What does it feel like to move through life believing your presence doesn’t quite matter? In this episode of Early Access, Katie Whitlock talks with Blake Walker, an Enneagram Nine, about the quiet patterns that shape her life—from avoiding conflict to merging with others’ goals, to the slow realization that her own voice matters. Blake reflects on marriage, motherhood, and building a life that at times felt more aligned with others than herself. Along the way, they explore the Nine’s relationship to energy, anger, and purpose—revealing both the strength and struggle of a type that longs for peace but often loses itself in the process.

51 min
4D AGO

"Inside Story" | Season One Wrap w. Jeff Cook

As we close out Season One of Inside Story, Kristin Messegee and Jeff Cook reflect on what they’ve learned—and where the Enneagram needs to go next. This conversation moves beyond theory into practice. What actually changes us? Why do we avoid our core emotions—anger, shame, and fear—and what does it take to face them? Across the triads, patterns emerge: image types struggle to access shame, body types resist seeing their impact, and head types find subtle ways to avoid anxiety altogether.

1h 10m
5D AGO

The Reading Room | Chapter One : "Personality and Wholeness in Therapy"

We’re back for Part Two of our deep dive into Personality and Wholeness in Therapy—and this time, we step into Chapter One. In this episode, we explore three core ideas shaping Dr. Siegel's model. We trace how early temperament forms a kind of filter, how neural pathways reinforce our patterns over time, and why growth is less about changing your type and more about loosening its grip. We also examine Siegel’s integration model—one that calls us not into a different type, but into balance across the centers. We are gathering on Tuesdays to discuss. The sign up is : HERE

45 min
MAR 26

Processing Centers | Eights

Explore more of Around the Circle, join live discussions, and access exclusive content: HERE ___________ We’re back in —and diving deeper into Joey Stabile’s Working Together Doesn’t Work, focusing on the Processing Center and what it reveals about how different types move through the world. In this episode, we begin a discussion on Eights, Threes, and Ones—the “doing processors.” What does it mean to process through action? What gets gained—and what gets left behind—when execution becomes the primary lens for evaluating life? We explore Joey’s framework of support centers—how doing can be backed by thinking or feeling—and how that shapes the differences between types that, on the surface, look similar. Along the way, we unpack: Why Eights often feel misunderstood—and what’s actually happening beneath their intensityThe tension between execution and emotion in doing typesHow Threes, Eights, and Ones differ in their relationship to results, relationships, and responsibilityWhether the “ends justify the means”—and how each type defines both ends and means differentlyThe hidden cost of prioritizing action over reflection or connection This conversation slows down to wrestle with real language, real experience, and the deeper structure behind how we assess: Am I good in the world? We’ll pick up next time with Threes and Ones—but for now, we stay with the Eights, and what it means to move through life with force, clarity, and blind spots we don’t always see.

1h 1m
MAR 24

"Early Access" | Enneagram 9 | Luke in North Carolina

The beginning of the end! In this episode, Katie talks with Luke, a pastry chef turned mental health counselor. We talk about several differences between 3 and 9, and spend a lot of time diving into what it means for a 9 to "wake up" and start chasing after their own life. Luke has an incredible knack for explaining difficult concepts, so this is a good one to listen to if you want to understand the 9s in your life.

53 min
MAR 23

The Morning Show | What We Talk About When We Talk About the Enneagram

What are we really talking about when we talk about the Enneagram? In this Morning Show conversation, we move past surface-level typing and into something deeper—transformation, self-awareness, and the courage to face what’s actually being exposed in us. We explore: Why the Enneagram is more than insight—it’s a tool for real-time self-awarenessThe difference between knowing your patterns and interrupting themHow unconscious motivations shape our lives (and how to bring them into the light)Why “what do I want?” might be one of the most powerful questions you can askThe tension between shared human flourishing and personal transformationHow each type filters reality—and what that means for relationships, emotions, and growth Along the way, we engage ideas from Carl Jung, Brené Brown, and Dr. Daniel Siegel’s Personality and Wholeness in Therapy, while also diving into the practical, lived experience of using the Enneagram.

1h 6m

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11/07/2025

Afstrick2013

I searched on a long shot when husband exclaimed he wanted to hear more ‘1s’, but it was easier listening to a man’s voice. As the one, I feel like Jeff did a great job “laying us out”. I look forward to checking out his number shows, 5. Thank you!
Enneagram as it’s meant to be!

08/01/2025

LGT33

Jeff and TJ take enneagram to the depths it was intended to go! They also provide a platform for so many enneagram voices and facilitate such rich conversations!
Best enneagram podcast available.

03/31/2025

sueub

Thanks guys for all the hard work. I do love this podcast.
5 stars!

03/27/2025

AllyNoel

I love this podcast. It’s easy to listen to and extremely interesting. I love getting different perspectives and relatable references. The guests are also people I familiar with so that makes sense even more tantalizing.

The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself.