The Healthtech Marketing Show

Adam Turinas

Marketing to healthcare is hard. We can all use a little help. Join us for The Healthtech Marketing Show to learn from the experts. Each episode features an experienced healthcare technology marketing leader who shares tips, insights, and how-to’s on a specific topic. Episodes include ABM, brand strategy, digital and content marketing, and more. The series is presented by Adam Turinas, a marketing veteran and health tech entrepreneur. The show is presented by Health Launchpad in partnership with Healthcare NOW Radio. 640646

  1. 4d ago

    How to Choose the Right Paid Media Playbook for Healthtech

    How do you know whether your healthtech company needs a classic demand gen campaign or a full ABM program?  In this episode, I'm joined by my colleague Paul Vandre, Account Director and Digital Marketing Specialist at Health Launchpad. Paul has two decades of experience in digital marketing, spending more than five years building paid media strategy for about 30 Health Launchpad clients. Paul starts by diagnosing the right approach. He uses two rules of thumb: a deal size of around $50K, and who you're selling to. Then he looks at why health systems usually settle on a shortlist long before anyone books a demo. According to 6sense, the first vendor a buyer calls wins 84% of the time, so paid media's real job is getting you into the consideration set early. Paul also explains which signals to track at each stage of the buyer journey, and how to show your leadership team that marketing is influencing revenue when you can't attribute every deal. On the demand gen side, Paul gets into why LinkedIn isn't always the answer, especially for clinician audiences. Paul explains how Meta, programmatic, Google, direct mail, and niche trade outlets fit into a real multi-channel mix. He also covers why campaigns tend to hit their stride around month three. If your paid media isn't delivering what you expected, this episode will help you work out whether the problem is your channels, your message, or both. Key Topics Covered "(00:00)" Introduction"(04:00)" How to tell whether a company needs demand gen or ABM"(06:00)" Two rules of thumb: the $50K deal size line and who you sell to"(07:00)" How health systems buy and how paid media supports ABM"(10:00)" The 6sense stat: the first vendor called wins 84% of the time"(11:00)" What digital advertising is for"(13:00)" The signals to track at each buyer stage"(14:00)" Showing leadership the value of influence"(19:00)" Reaching clinicians when LinkedIn doesn't work"(21:00)" What to expect in the first three months of a paid demand gen campaign"(23:00)" Programmatic advertising explained"(26:00)" Content and offers that work at each stage of the funnel"(28:00)" Paul's biggest lesson"(30:00)" The first thing to check when paid media isn't working"(32:00)" My five key takeaways from the conversationIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges. Follow me on LinkedIn. Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond! Find all of our episodes on the Health Podcast Library. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

    How to Choose the Right Paid Media Playbook for Healthtech
  2. Sep 21

    Why Buyers Stopped Believing Your ROI Story and Other Big Issues in 2026

    If you skipped every healthtech conference this year, this episode is your catch-up call. My guest is Colin Hung, Editor-in-Chief at Swaay.Health and Healthcare IT Today, who is on pace to attend 50 conferences in 2026, roughly one a week, which means he sees more vendor pitches and more buyer conversations than almost anyone else in this industry. I asked him what has actually changed on the show floor this year, and his answer should worry anyone still pitching a five-year ROI story. Colin walks me through why buyers have no patience for long payback periods. The standard or many, is three to six months. And, why AI has quietly moved from a standalone purchase to something baked into every backend system you already own. That shift is making it harder than ever for vendors to stand out. We get into the one unglamorous AI use case that is actually winning deals right now (hint: it involves faxes), why security transparency and AI governance are becoming the next competitive edge, and what he thinks marketers need to stop saying if they want their message to break through the noise. We close with his predictions for 2027, including a call on patient experience investment that you may not want to hear, and his take on what you are missing every single time you decide to stay home instead of showing up. Key Topics Covered “(00:00)” – Introduction“(06:00)” – The economy takes center stage in conversations“(08:00)” – Budget cuts, paused projects, and stripped down requirements“(09:00)” – Buyers now demand proof of value in three to six months“(10:00)” – Operational efficiency becomes the new buzzword“(12:00)” – A maturing conversation around generative versus agentic AI“(17:00)” – Fax triage and other unglamorous, high impact AI deployments“(19:00)” – The gap between what vendors promote and what buyers want“(23:00)” – Security transparency and AI governance are becoming competitive advantages“(24:00)” – The standout technology of the year“(26:00)” – Predictions for 2027“(29:00)” – What healthtech marketers miss by skipping conferences entirely“(30:00)” – What's next for Swaay.HealthIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges. Follow me on LinkedIn. Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond! Find all of our episodes on the Health Podcast Library. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

    Why Buyers Stopped Believing Your ROI Story and Other Big Issues in 2026
  3. Sep 14

    Why Splitting Brand and Demand Gen Will Sink Your Marketing Team

    If you've ever wondered why splitting your brand budget from your demand gen budget always seems to end with brand getting cut first, this episode is for you. I sat down with Drew Neisser, founder of CMO Huddles, a peer community built exclusively for B2B CMOs with over 800 members, to dig into what's actually changed for CMOs in the AI era, and what hasn't. We talk about why AI is turning competent content into a commodity, and why that actually makes human judgment, humor, and original thinking more valuable, not less. Drew makes the case for the return of the big idea, and explains why treating brand and demand gen as separate budgets sets marketing and sales up to work against each other. If you're worried about CMO tenure or wondering whether the job is even still worth pursuing, Drew shares brand new data from a study he ran with Findem on how long CMOs actually last at public, venture backed, and private equity backed companies, and why the gap is bigger than you'd think. We also get into what a CMO should do in their first 90 days at a new company, why peer communities like CMO Huddles matter more than ever, and why knowing your customer better than anyone else in the room is still the strongest superpower a CMO has. Key Topics Covered "(00:00)" - Introduction"(00:04)" - Why CMO Huddles is built"(00:06)" - What's changed and what hasn't for CMOs in the AI era"(00:09)" - Why the pressure on marketers keeps rising"(00:13)" - Why splitting brand and demand gen backfires"(00:19)" - The rise of unified GTM teams and who should lead them"(00:21)" - Is the CMO role disappearing?"(00:23)" - The buyer journey in healthtech"(00:25)" - Agent sprawl: a new kind of MarTech debt"(00:28)" - Inside Reputracker"(00:31)" - New CMO tenure data from the Findem study"(00:36)" - The Quick Wins Playbook for a CMO's first 90 days"(00:39)" - Why marketers should join a peer community"(00:42)" - How CMO Huddles supports CMOs in transition"(00:44)" - Why AI fluency is now a make or break interview question"(00:45)" - Talking to customers: the real CMO superpower"(00:48)" - Adam's five key takeaways from the conversationIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges. Follow me on LinkedIn. Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond! Find all of our episodes on the Health Podcast Library. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

    Why Splitting Brand and Demand Gen Will Sink Your Marketing Team
  4. Sep 8

    From the Archive: Rebuilding Your Pipeline Strategy for How Healthcare Buyers Actually Buy

    Another special episode from the vault. Instead of me hosting, you'll hear my colleague Mark Erwich, Chief Strategy Officer at Health Launchpad, and me as guests on the Sway Health Podcast, in conversation with Colin Hung. We recorded this about a year ago, but if anything, the topic feels more relevant today than it did then. We get into the real mechanics of the healthcare buyer journey. Sales cycles are running past a year. Buying groups keep growing. And there's a stat that still stops people in their tracks: most buyers say they end up choosing the first company they call, which means their minds are largely made up before they ever pick up the phone. AI is only making this harder, since it gives buyers even more ways to research before they talk to a vendor at all. If you've ever felt like deals appear out of nowhere, or wondered why your lead volume doesn't translate into pipeline, this conversation will explain why, and what to do differently. Mark and I walk through account-based thinking, how to read buying signals, why thought leadership matters most in the part of the journey you can't see, and what we tell clients to actually change first. We also talk about why healthcare is a genuinely different B2B market than the one most marketing advice is written for, and why leveraging your own customer network may be the most underused asset you have. If pipeline growth is a constant conversation on your team, this episode is worth the listen. Key Topics Covered "(00:00)" – Introduction "(05:00)" – The biggest pipeline struggle marketers report "(08:00)" – Reframing the marketer's job "(09:00)" – Why the old MQL-to-sales handoff model is breaking down "(10:00)" – Shifting from lead-level tracking to account-level signal tracking "(11:00)" – Why pipeline ownership belongs to the whole company, not just sales "(13:00)" – What ABM thinking actually means: accounts, buying groups, and signals "(16:00)" – Why healthcare is a finite, nameable market, unlike most B2B categories "(18:00)" – Balancing ABM with broader brand awareness "(19:00)" – What NOT to stop doing "(20:00)" – Why "(outbound is dead)" and similar absolutes are wrong "(22:00)" – Why most B2B marketing advice doesn't translate directly to healthcare "(23:00)" – Examples of companies further along their ABM journey "(24:00)" – The operational ripple effects of shifting to ABM "(25:00)" – Sales and marketing alignment in practice "(27:00)" – Practical ways to activate customer advocacy without relying on formal case studies "(32:00)" – Recap and key takeaways for revenue teams If you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges. Follow me on LinkedIn. Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond! Find all of our episodes on the Health Podcast Library. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

    From the Archive: Rebuilding Your Pipeline Strategy for How Healthcare Buyers Actually Buy
  5. Aug 31

    From the Archive: Building an AI-First Marketing Team

    How do you build an AI-first marketing team from the ground up, and get legal, compliance, and a skeptical staff on board with you? I'm away this week, so I'm pulling one of my favorite conversations from the vault to answer exactly that question. This is my chat with Nick Panayi, recorded when he was CMO at Inovalon. Nick and I go deep on how he and his digital marketing lead, Chris Marin, put an AI-first mindset into practice across every function of a 95-person marketing team. He walks through the real speed bumps: how he addressed legal's privacy concerns in a highly regulated industry, and how he got his own people past the fear that AI was coming for their jobs. We also get tactical. Nick explains the AI tools his team built for content creation, website personalization at scale, and agentic AI systems that draft and bid on paid ads with a human checking the work at the end. He breaks down what agentic AI actually means in plain English, how his team measures ROI on each pilot, and how they even used an AI-generated podcast to turn a stack of white papers into content people would actually consume. The playbook here, an AI-first mindset backed by leadership, hiring for AI fluency, and treating experimentation as a mandate, is more relevant now than when we first aired it. Key Topics Covered "(00:00)" Introduction"(05:00)" Hiring Chris Moran and adopting an "AI first" mindset"(09:00)" Navigating legal and privacy concerns in healthcare"(12:00)" Building an AI roadmap"(15:00)" The AI content engine"(19:00)" Using AI to tag and personalize 1,000 website pages"(23:00)" Agentic AI for building and bidding on paid search ads"(27:00)" What "agentic AI" and "zero-shot" actually mean"(32:00)" Amaru AI, Chris's internal multi-agent marketing platform"(36:00)" Bringing AI tools into monday.com and an AI image remix tool"(39:00)" Prospecting tools Tiga AI and Synthflow for AI-driven outreach"(44:00)" How realistic AI voice conversations have become"(46:00)" Measuring ROI and answering the CEO's top line growth question"(52:00)" Turning white papers into AI generated podcasts"(54:00)" Advice for agencies and consultants"(57:00)" Advice for peers starting their own AI journeyIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges. Follow me on LinkedIn. Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond! Find all of our episodes on the Health Podcast Library. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

    From the Archive: Building an AI-First Marketing Team
  6. Aug 24

    Propensity Modeling: How to Find Your Most Valuable Leads

    Does your team keep chasing more leads but can't explain why the pipeline doesn't turn into revenue? This episode is for you.  Aaron Burnett, founder and CEO of Wheelhouse DMG, built his agency specifically for privacy-first industries like healthcare and medtech, and he walked me through something most agencies can't do: predicting the dollar value of a lead in real time, without ever touching protected health information. We get into why more leads is the wrong goal for most medtech marketers, how Wheelhouse's real-time propensity modeling drove a 50 percent increase in new customer starts for one large medtech client, and why Aaron's team sometimes tells prospective clients not to spend a dime with them until they fix their product or messaging first. If you are trying to make sense of measurement in a HIPAA-constrained world, wondering whether your dual funnel of patients and physicians is actually working the way you think it is, or curious about how AI fits into a performance marketing agency without replacing the experts who make it work, you will get a lot out of this conversation. Key Topics Covered "(00:00)" – Introduction"(00:07)" – The Go-Giver philosophy"(00:10)" – What Wheelhouse does and who it serves"(00:13)" – Why more leads is the wrong goal"(00:16)" – The double bind of HIPAA-regulated marketing"(00:18)" – Inside real-time propensity modeling"(00:21)" – Applying propensity modeling to HCP recruitment"(00:23)" – Building Compass, Lighthouse, and Sonar instead of buying off the shelf tools"(00:29)" – Why ABM starts with the same question Wheelhouse asks"(00:29)" – How AI has changed Wheelhouse's work"(00:34)" – Using AI to eliminate the boring parts of client reporting"(00:37)" – Where to find Aaron and WheelhouseFind The Go-Giver book here. If you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges. Follow me on LinkedIn. Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond! Find all of our episodes on the Health Podcast Library. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

    Propensity Modeling: How to Find Your Most Valuable Leads
  7. Aug 17

    Why Social Selling Beats Cold Outreach and What Actually Works Now

    If you have felt like the channels you used to count on for pipeline just are not producing the way they used to, you’re not alone. Cold call connection rates have dropped to around 3 percent, email is getting buried by spam filters, and now LinkedIn is starting to go the same way as more salespeople lean on AI to fire off generic connect-and-pitch sequences that buyers can spot from a mile away.  To close out our four-part series on AI and sales enablement, I sat down with Tim Hughes, co-founder of DLA Ignite and one of the most respected voices in social selling.  Tim built the only certified social selling methodology in the world, just released the fourth edition of his book Social Selling and Influence, and spent the last year building an AI platform, Azpertilo.ai, that helps salespeople sound more like themselves, not less. We get into why buyers still buy on trust and relationship, how Tim's platform grounds AI output in a salesperson's actual voice, and how brand guardrails can keep content on message without making it sound like generic corporate copy.  Tim also breaks down why most sales teams just need friction removed rather than more training when adopting new tools, and how a simple commenting feature is helping him start real conversations with total strangers before ever asking to connect. If you want to understand what actually works for building pipeline now that the old playbooks are breaking down, this conversation is packed with practical thinking you can use right away. Key Topics Covered "(00:00)" Introduction"(05:00)" Tim's background"(07:00)" Why so few salespeople actually use LinkedIn effectively"(09:00)" The psychology of buying"(10:00)" How the idea for an AI sales tool started, built around how people actually buy"(13:00)" Why visibility on LinkedIn also drives visibility in LLMs and Google search"(14:00)" Building an "easy button" that removes the friction of posting content"(15:00)" Brand guardrails that keep AI generated posts on message and authentic"(17:00)" The adoption bell curve"(19:00)" How the platform works"(22:00)" The scoring and guardrail system "(24:00)" Turning corporate campaign content and colleague posts into personalized content"(25:00)" The four step posting process, including hashtag and amplifier channel suggestions"(27:00)" A planned daily nudge feature to build a consistent posting habit"(28:00)" The AI powered commenting tool and how it opens conversations with cold prospects"(32:00)" The irony of using AI to scale generic outreach and commoditize the salesperson"(33:00)" Where to find Tim, his book, and Aspetillo.ai"(34:00)" Adam's four takeaways Previous Episodes in this series: How AI Aligned Marketing and Sales in Seven MonthsFinding Your True Customer Profile with Bruce BrandesBuilding an AI Lead Scoring System That Boosted Conversion by 70%If you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges. Follow me on LinkedIn. Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond! Find all of our episodes on the Health Podcast Library. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

    Why Social Selling Beats Cold Outreach and What Actually Works Now
  8. Aug 10

    Building an AI Lead Scoring System That Boosted Conversion by 70%

    Your marketing engine is generating leads, but how do you know which ones are actually worth handing to sales? That is the question at the heart of this episode, and it is one that gets harder to answer the bigger your funnel gets. My guest is Nick Panayi, a technology marketing veteran who most recently led marketing at Inovalon. If you listened to our episode with Nick last year, you know he has spent his career at the intersection of marketing and AI. This time he is back to walk me through something he built with his partner Chris Marin: an AI-powered lead scoring system that moved his team's MQL-to-opportunity conversion rate from 10 percent to 17 percent in a single quarter. That is a 70 percent improvement in lead conversion. We get into why traditional lead scoring has not really changed since marketing automation platforms first showed up, and why that single-dimensional approach creates false positives and quietly erodes trust between marketing and sales. Nick breaks down how his team combined ten different signals, from individual behavior to ICP alignment to lookalike modeling, into one dynamic score built on a self-improving Bayesian model. We also talk about the part I think matters most for actually getting sales to act: pairing every score with a plain-language, AI-generated synopsis that tells the rep exactly why the lead matters and how to open the conversation. If you are a CMO or VP of marketing trying to get sales to actually believe in your leads, this episode gives you a real blueprint, along with Nick's honest take on what it takes to get started even if you do not have a full AI team in-house. Key Topics Covered "(00:00)" Welcome and introduction"(05:00)" Nick's background "(06:00)" Why traditional lead scoring has not changed in years "(09:00)" The specific problems with lead scoring"(12:00)" Multivariate AI platform scoring"(15:00)" Turning complex scoring data into a single AI generated synopsis "(17:00)" Why recency and lead quality together drive better conversion"(19:00)" How the project actually got built"(21:00)" The result"(23:00)" A real example of a counterintuitive lead score"(25:00)" The value of being able to reconstruct a full deal story"(27:00)" Nick's one piece of advice for a CMO who wants to get started next week"(31:00)" Adam's five key takeaways from the conversationIf you are interested in discussing this or any other topic, let's have a chat.  Reach out to me directly to schedule a no-obligation discussion. This isn't a sales call, but rather an opportunity to talk through your questions and challenges. Follow me on LinkedIn. Subscribe to The Healthtech Marketing Show on Spotify or watch us on YouTube for more insights into marketing, AI, ABM, buyer journeys, and beyond! Find all of our episodes on the Health Podcast Library. Thank you to our presenting sponsor, HealthcareNOW, 24/7 expert shows, interviews, and podcasts, powering healthcare leaders with innovation, policy, and strategy insights.

    Building an AI Lead Scoring System That Boosted Conversion by 70%
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Marketing to healthcare is hard. We can all use a little help. Join us for The Healthtech Marketing Show to learn from the experts. Each episode features an experienced healthcare technology marketing leader who shares tips, insights, and how-to’s on a specific topic. Episodes include ABM, brand strategy, digital and content marketing, and more. The series is presented by Adam Turinas, a marketing veteran and health tech entrepreneur. The show is presented by Health Launchpad in partnership with Healthcare NOW Radio. 640646

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