I Love Neuro

Erin Gallardo and Claire McLean

We are a couple of neurologic physical therapists on the quest to keep the passion, commitment, and possibilities alive for those who love neuro rehab and wellness like us, without burnout and overwhelm. This show is great for neuro therapists and trainers looking to stay up to date and make a greater impact. Join us in this important movement to elevate healthcare!

  1. 1D AGO

    308: How NeuroLab 360 Uses A Nonprofit Model To Deliver High Intensity Neuro Rehab

    Interested in looking at how a nonprofit clinic operates for neuro rehab? In this episode hosts Erin Gallardo, PT, DPT, NCS and Claire McLean, PT, DPT, NCS interview co-founder Meagan George, PT, DPT, NCS about how she and her partners built a nonprofit, cash-based neuro clinic in Encinitas, California. After feeling constrained by insurance limitations in hospital systems, the trio incorporated as a 501(c)(3) in 2021 with a mission to deliver intensive, goal-oriented PT, OT, and wellness services regardless of a person's financial situation. NeuroLab 360 operates using a scholarship program—reviewed and approved by their board of directors—to make care accessible, with about 30–40% of patients receiving financial support and everyone paying something to maintain commitment and value. Meagan shares how they've grown from three founders to a team of nine therapists, outfitted their gym-like clinic with donated and grant-funded specialty equipment like an AlterG and driving simulator, and built strong community ties through support groups, free and low-cost classes, and collaborations with local hospitals, researchers, and nonprofits. She also opens up about the real challenges of running a nonprofit—especially grant writing, budgeting with variable donations, and preventing burnout—while still staying true to their core mission of providing high-quality, high-intensity neuro rehab that isn't dictated by insurance. www.neurolab360.com https://www.instagram.com/neurolab360/

    45 min
  2. MAR 2

    307: Research Update: Treadmill VS Overground Walking In Persons With MS With Herb Karpatkin, PT, DSc, NCS, MSCS

    In this episode host Erin Gallardo, PT, DPT, NCS interviews Multiple Sclerosis specialist and researcher Dr. Herb Karpatkin, PT, DSc, NCS, MSCS to discuss how therapy for people with multiple sclerosis must be fundamentally different from approaches used for stroke, spinal cord injury, or TBI. In his research Herb discovered an incidental finding that led to more questions that he and his team wanted to investigate: does treadmill walking carry over to overground walking in persons with MS? In the show he explains the nuances of treadmill walking for persons with MS vs healthy controls and when to use it or not. Herb shares his framework on intermittent, high-intensity interval walking and strength training, which allow people with MS to push hard, rest, and achieve meaningful aerobic gains and functional improvements without excessive fatigue. Instead of telling people with MS they can't work hard or lift heavy, his research finds that to be absolutely untrue. Herb and Erin also discuss a couple of past patients who wanted to complete the MS Society 5k walk and what the training looked like and what could have been done differently. The topic of cooling came up and how to effectively implement this technique to allow persons with MS to do more without overheating. Check out episode 233 with Herb MS: Update on evidence based interventions to improve gait and balance 1.5 hour Mini Course

    39 min
  3. FEB 23

    306: Clients Can Maximize Hand Function And Foot Drop At Home With Motus Nova

    In this episode, host Erin Gallardo, PT, DPT, NCS interviews the Motus Nova clinical team—occupational therapists Jamie Kurtz, MS, OTR/L, Keisha Burrous, OTR/L, CBIS, Amie Canning, MS, OTR/L, and Mirasol Jacobs, PT, DPT — about the Motus Hand and Motus Foot robotic devices for neurorehabilitation. The team explains how these FDA Class I medical devices provide active-assistive, game-based training at home to help patients achieve the high repetition doses (500–600 reps per day) needed for neuroplastic change, without replacing traditional therapy. Built on pneumatic "artificial muscle" technology, the devices adapt in real time to the user's movement, address tone and spasticity, and can be customized for a wide range of neurologic conditions, from stroke and MS to Parkinson's disease and Guillain-Barré. The conversation covers who is appropriate for the devices, how they integrate with inpatient and outpatient care, real-world success stories—including improved gait, grip strength, and mental health—and the practical steps for clinicians to refer patients, arrange demos, and navigate the 13‑month rental-to-own DME model now supported by a dedicated Medicare code, which means patients can get the device through their insurance and it does not impact their ability to get other durable medical equipment (DME). Overall, the episode highlights Motus Nova as an accessible way to extend evidence-based neuro rehab beyond the clinic and into patients' homes. You will likely have a patient (or several) who come to mind while listening to this, so check it out and learn more today! Keisha Burrous LinkedIN Motus Nova https://motusnova.com Therapists! Contact Motus Nova with questions, schedule an inservice, or refer a patient here: clinical@motusnova.com

    48 min
  4. FEB 16

    305: How To Overcome The Fear Of Falls Training With Naomi Casiro

    Do you work with people who have falls? Maybe you've seen that just training fall prevention isn't quite doing enough. In this episode hosts Erin Gallardo, PT, DPT, NCS and Claire McLean, PT, DPT, NCS talk with physiotherapist Naomi Casiro, founder of NeuroFit BC and creator of the Functional Movement and Falls training paradigm about why adding falls training to an overall balance plan is imperative. We explore why traditional fall prevention—focused mainly on prevention—has not been enough, and why a two-part approach that includes both prevention and explicit "how to fall" training is crucial, especially for people with Parkinson's disease and older adults who are still falling at high rates. Naomi explains how teaching patients to roll, dissipate force, and land safely allows therapists to challenge them more intensively and functionally in rehab, while also preserving autonomy and true informed choice around mobility and assistive devices. They discuss how falls training progresses from simple, low-level skills on the mat rather than immediately falling from standing, the importance of repetition (even for those with cognitive impairment), and the central role of addressing anxiety. We also discuss how often providers themselves are scared to perform this training and what to do about it. Naomi shares how her background in martial arts and clinical experience with frequent fallers led to her "aha" moment about falls training, and previews upcoming opportunities to learn her approach through the NeuroFit Academy, an online Functional Movement and Falls Training Foundations course with NeuroCollaborative, live Q&A follow-ups, and a practical hands-on session at the World Parkinson Congress. You can reach out to Naomi and learn more about the fall training courses she teaches for healthcare professionals here: www.neurofitbc.com  www.neurofitbc.com/courses Free exercise videos: www.neurofitbc.com/move  naomi@neurofitbc.com

    38 min
  5. FEB 9

    304: Dry Needing For Spasticity With Chris McElderry, PT, DPT, NCS

    In this episode host, Erin Gallardo, PT, DPT, NCS speaks with Chris McElderry, PT, DPT, NCS about how dry needling can be used in neuro rehab, particularly for people post-stroke. Chris explains why he pursued dry needling, how using it in PT differs from acupuncture, and walks through what a typical session looks like, including safety, side effects, and billing considerations. He shares clinical examples of using dry needling to address spasticity, hypertonicity, pain, and range of motion limitations, and discusses current research on short-term effects for spasticity and pain reduction. Erin and Chris also clarify the differences between spasticity and hypertonicity, touch on contracture management, and highlight where dry needling can be a useful adjunct—not a standalone cure—in helping neuro clients move and feel better. Follow Chris McElderry, PT, DPT, NCS @theneuroguy_dpt  Ebrahimzadeh M, Nakhostin Ansari N, Abdollahi I, Akhbari B, Dommerholt J. Changes in Corticospinal Tract Consistency after Dry Needling in a Stroke Patient. Case Rep Neurol Med. 2024 Sep 14;2024:5115313. doi: 10.1155/2024/5115313. PMID: 39309410; PMCID: PMC11416164. Fakhari Z, Ansari NN, Naghdi S, Mansouri K, Radinmehr H. A single group, pretest-posttest clinical trial for the effects of dry needling on wrist flexors spasticity after stroke. NeuroRehabilitation. 2017;40(3):325-336. doi: 10.3233/NRE-161420. PMID: 28222554. Fernández-de-Las-Peñas C, Pérez-Bellmunt A, Llurda-Almuzara L, Plaza-Manzano G, De-la-Llave-Rincón AI, Navarro-Santana MJ. Is Dry Needling Effective for the Management of Spasticity, Pain, and Motor Function in Post-Stroke Patients? A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. Pain Med. 2021 Feb 4;22(1):131-141. doi: 10.1093/pm/pnaa392. PMID: 33338222. Núñez-Cortés R, Cruz-Montecinos C, Vásquez-Rosales P, et al. Effectiveness of dry needling in the treatment of spasticity in stroke patients: A systematic review. J Body Mov Ther. 2020;24(3):113-122. Suputtitada A, et al. Emerging theory of sensitization in post-stroke muscle spasticity: Implications for dry needling and other interventions. Front Rehabil Sci. 2023;4:1169087. Valencia-Chulián R, Heredia-Rizo AM, Moral-Munoz JA, Lucena-Anton D, Luque-Moreno C. Dry needling for the management of spasticity, pain, and range of movement in adults after stroke: A systematic review. Complement Ther Med. 2020 Aug;52:102515. doi: 10.1016/j.ctim.2020.102515. Epub 2020 Jul 16. PMID: 32951759.

    42 min
  6. FEB 2

    303: Hybrid Assistive Limb (HAL) + Neuroplasticity = Improved Outcomes For Individuals With Neurologic Conditions

    In this episode, Erin Gallardo, PT, DPT, NCS interviews physical therapist Mariah King, PT, DPT from RISE Healthcare Group and Hiroki (Hiro) Kimura from Cyberdyne about the HAL (Hybrid Assistive Limb) robotic exoskeleton and its role in neurologic rehabilitation. They discuss how the HAL system reads patients' intent to move via surface EMG signals and converts those signals into assisted movement to drive neuroplasticity and functional recovery for people with spinal cord injury, stroke, TBI, Parkinson's disease, and progressive neuromuscular disorders such as MS, SMA, and muscular dystrophy. Mariah explains RISE's one-on-one outpatient model, how patients are evaluated for HAL use, typical dosing (2–3x/week over about 2 months), and the outcome measures they track, including 10-Meter Walk, 2-Minute Walk, 30-Second Sit-to-Stand, and TUG. She shares powerful case examples, including a person with MS who relies on a wheelchair for mobility progressing to prolonged standing and assisted gait, and another individual with MS whose falls dropped from several per month to just one across four months. Hiro digs into what makes HAL unique compared to other exoskeletons: its emphasis on intention-based control, the ability for therapists to visualize and shape EMG patterns (for example, reducing co-contraction), and asymmetric or joint-specific assistance tailored to each limb. They also touch on the different HAL configurations (lower limb, single-joint, lumbar), its current status as a clinic-based rehab device (not take-home), billing considerations, the new pediatric version and forthcoming wrist device, as well as opportunities for students, clinicians, and clinic owners to get involved with RISE's HAL programs. Website: www.risehealthcaregroup.com Instagram: risehealthcaregroup Facebook: risehealthcaregroup YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@risehealthcaregroup7766 Cyberdyne USA Inc. https://www.cyberdyne.jp/english/ mariah@socalelitephysicaltherapy.com

    40 min
  7. JAN 26

    302: Applying A New Calculation For Max Heart Rate In PD

    In this episode, hosts Erin Gallardo, PT, DPT, NCS and Claire McLean, PT, DPT, NCS discuss a new research article, "Refining maximal heart rate estimation to enhance exercise recommendations for persons with Parkinson's disease." Parkinson's is a multi-system condition and changes to the function of the autonomic nervous system are common. At times this can present as a person with PD having trouble reaching aerobic heart rate zones calculated based on age while they're performing high intensity exercise. Claire explains the challenges they've faced using standard heart rate formulas and color-zoned monitoring apps when many clients appear stuck in a "gray zone," likely due to this autonomic dysfunction and chronotropic incompetence common in Parkinson's. After exploring but struggling to access cardiopulmonary exercise testing (CPET)—the gold standard for determining true maximal heart rate—Claire finds this new study, which uses CPET data from a cycling trial to derive a more accurate regression-based equation for people with Parkinson's: 166 − (1.15 × age) + (0.60 × resting heart rate). She describes how they are now applying this formula in practice by calculating individualized max heart rates, manually updating values in their OnBeat app, and offering a public calculator via their website so people with Parkinson's and clinicians can easily generate appropriate training zones. This shift should make target zones more realistic, motivating, and safer. Listen to the show to easily incorporate this research into your practice today!   Pull up the article here (free full text available): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40194736/ Use Claire's calculator that uses the research-based formula here: https://www.roguept.com/cardio

    25 min
  8. JAN 19

    301: Multi-System Approach To Treating Individuals With Long COVID Currently With Jennifer Lazaro, PT, DPT, NCS

    In this episode of the I Love Neuro podcast, host Erin Gallardo, PT, DPT, NCS interviews physical therapist and neuro rehab residency coordinator Jennifer Lazaro, PT, DPT, NCS about evaluating and treating people with long COVID and dysautonomia. Jennifer notes the similarities in presentation for individuals who have post-COVID those with other conditions affecting the autonomic nervous system, like concussion with cognitive fog, severe fatigue, post‑exertional malaise, dizziness, and orthostatic intolerance. She walks through practical assessment strategies such as active stand testing, symptom‑mediated exercise testing, and multi‑system screening to differentiate vestibular, cardiac, pulmonary, and autonomic drivers. Jennifer outlines how she starts with education on the autonomic nervous system, diaphragmatic breathing, and strict pacing, then progresses patients from supine conditioning through graded dysautonomia protocols like the Adapt protocol, emphasizing heart rate parameters, symptom monitoring, and buy‑in to "doing less to do more." She highlights the importance of interdisciplinary care with OT, speech, cardiology, neurology, and mental health, shares a powerful success story of a college student who returned to school after structured rehab, and offers real‑world strategies for self‑management using wearables, pacing tools, and lifestyle changes in sleep, hydration, and daily routines.

    42 min
5
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33 Ratings

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We are a couple of neurologic physical therapists on the quest to keep the passion, commitment, and possibilities alive for those who love neuro rehab and wellness like us, without burnout and overwhelm. This show is great for neuro therapists and trainers looking to stay up to date and make a greater impact. Join us in this important movement to elevate healthcare!

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