Voices On Art - The Van Horn Gallery Podcast | hosted by Daniela Steinfeld

Daniela Steinfeld

This Podcast is about my personal and a lot of other peoples enthusiasm for art. What we have in common is our love for art and our life with art. Art will be at the center of all our talks. As art touches on all parts of life - we talk all parts of life! I hope to get you on board, to inspire you and to tell you interesting stories you enjoy listening to. Languages english or german. Subtitles available on our YouTube channel @vanhorngallery New Episodes bi-weekly or monthly. Instagram @voicesonart and @van_horn_duesseldorf website van-horn.net

  1. 6d ago

    # 106 A Touch of the Madness | Larry Kasanoff | Film & Media Producer, Los Angeles

    In this episode of Voices On Art, I talk with film and entertainment producer Larry Kasanoff about creativity, risk, fear – and what he calls “A Touch of the Madness", which is also the title of his recently published book about creativity, asking, creating, playing – and having the courage to act on an idea. Larry has worked on films including Platoon, Terminator 2, True Lies, Dirty Dancing and the Mortal Kombat franchise, and has spent decades moving between film, games and other forms of entertainment. Although our worlds are different, art and film production have a lot in common: both begin with an idea and depend on vision, collaboration, risk and the courage to bring something new into the world. We talk about what a producer actually does – not simply financing a film, but developing an idea and keeping hundreds of people on one creative path. Larry tells me how taking a major risk on Platoon early in his career shaped his philosophy: exceptional work often begins where the safe choice ends. From there, our conversation moves into why fear can be such a powerful obstacle to creativity, why audiences still want the new and unexpected, and why Larry believes cinema has a future precisely because people still want shared experiences and human stories. We also talk about AI and new technologies, the difference between using technology as a tool and allowing it to replace the human element, the importance of fun and playfulness in art, and how Larry decides whether an idea is worth pursuing. Later in the conversation, Larry speaks about his friendship with Zen Buddhist teacher Thich Nhat Hanh and how mindfulness changed the way he works: doing one thing at a time instead of constantly multitasking. A conversation about making things, staying curious, taking chances – and keeping a little madness alive. And finally, we talk about age, experience and courage – and why, for Larry, getting older has made him more willing rather than less willing to take creative risks. My book pick for this episode, besides Larry's own book, is Siri Hustvedt’s Ghost Stories. Written in the wake of the death of her husband Paul Auster, it is a deeply personal book about love, loss, memory and creating. For me, it also offers an important counterpoint to the idea that creativity is always about pushing forward: sometimes it begins with listening, openness and allowing something to come to you. Links: https://van-horn.net/podcast/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Kasanoff https://www.larrykasanoff.com/ VOICES ON ARTConversations about Art & Lifehosted by Daniela Steinfeld A Van Horn Gallery x Studio Steinfeld Production ©Daniela Steinfeld 2026

    # 106 A Touch of the Madness | Larry Kasanoff | Film & Media Producer, Los Angeles
  2. Aug 28

    # 105 Learning by Doing | Walter Gehlen (EN) | Founder & Director, Art Düsseldorf

    In this episode of Voices On Art, I speak with Walter Gehlen, co-founder and director of Art Düsseldorf, about a career that took many different turns before leading him to the art fair business. His early ambition was to become an artist, sparked in part by seeing Gerhard Richter at Kunsthalle Düsseldorf when he was 16. After being rejected by the Düsseldorf Academy, Walter studied art history, theatre and film, later economics, worked in psychiatric and infectious disease wards during his civil service, learned professional cooking and ran a catering business, before moving into business consulting and management. Rather than seeing these experiences as disconnected, we talk about what each of them taught him: dealing with people, understanding systems and marketplaces, reacting to difficult situations, improvising, and finding solutions when there is no obvious blueprint. Eventually, these different skills came together in the art fair business. Walter talks about his first fair projects with Andreas Lohaus, the move from Cologne to Düsseldorf and the development of Art Düsseldorf into an international platform. We discuss what actually makes an art fair work: selecting galleries, bringing the right collectors into the room, creating spaces that encourage encounters, and constantlyadjusting the model. We also talk about data, AI and the use of new technology behind the scenes — not as an end in itself, but as a way of taking care of repetitive work and making complex processes more efficient. And we come back to something quite simple: however sophisticated technology becomes, art still needs people in a room together. An art fair is not only a marketplace, but a place for encounters, conversations and relationships that develop over time. Digital tools can make things easier and more efficient, but they cannot replace the physical experience of art — or the human connections aroundit. A conversation about learning by doing, DIY thinking, curiosity, failure, entrepreneurship — and why a career doesn’t necessarily need a straight line. Language: english, c. 1:15 h Portrait photo by Achim Hehn Book Pick: My book pick for this Episode is Verschwende DeineJugend / Waste Your Youth by Jürgen Teipel. In Germanyoriginally published in 2001 by Suhrkamp Verlag. There is an English translation available through Suhrkamp, but the book hasn't been published yet. I think it's one of the most important books about the special culture of punk and new wave in Germany. As always you can listen to it at the end of the talk. This book gives deep insights into the development of punk in Germany, particularly in Dusseldorf, Hamburg, and Berlin, from the late 70s to the early 80s. Built entirely from original voices, the book captures these times in Germany, when places like Düsseldorf became laboratories for music, art, fashion, and ideas. Musicians, artists, writers, and outsiders all shared the same DIY attitude. If what you want doesn't exist, make it yourself. A strong reminder how powerful youth culture, any culture, can be. Not because it follows trends, because it invents them. If you're interested in how independence, fearlessness, and fun lead to creating contemporary art and independent culture, this is one of the essential books. Links:https://art-dus.dehttps://van-horn.net/podcast/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6nU3l-pJLSkiPlpfD9BiOA

    # 105 Learning by Doing | Walter Gehlen (EN) | Founder & Director, Art Düsseldorf
  3. May 19

    #103 Fan, Not Frontman | Darren Flook (EN) | Gallerist, Curator | London

    Darren Flook on art, sobriety, and amplifying other voices In this very personal and wide-ranging conversation Daniela speaks with gallerist, curator and writer, Darren Flook about art, identity, sobriety, and the changing realities of the contemporary art world. They discuss Darren's journey in the art world, from hisworking-class background in England to co-founding the gallery Hotel in London in 2003, which later closed in 2012. Darren expands on his decision to stop making art himself, preferring to focus on curating and supporting other artists. The conversation also turns deeply personal as Darren shares his personal struggles with alcohol, ultimately achieving sobriety. He describes how alcohol shaped his confidenceand relationships, and how becoming sober transformed both his life and his perspective on art and community. The conversation explores how the art world has evolved over the decades, with both participants reflecting on the changes in art fairs, commercial pressures, and the challenges of maintaining authenticity in the contemporary art market. They also discuss the importance of art as a form of expression and community building, beyond commercial transactions and highlight the enduring impact of art, particularly focusing on art's ability to create an emotional response beyond its physical materials. At its core, this episode explores what art can offer: meaning,emotional resonance, human connection, experiences that resist easy explanation and a way to live ones life with purpose. Topics include: ​Growing up working class and entering the art world ​Founding and closing Hotel Gallery ​The evolution of art fairs and collecting culture ​Curating versus making art ​Alcohol, recovery, and rebuilding a life ​Why art matters in a commercial world ​Emotional responses to art beyond meaning or material ​Community, artists, and sustaining creative ecosystemsBook pick: Hermann Hesse, Siddharta, a novel about growth, transformation and becoming yourself. Links: Instagram @darren_flook https://fadmagazine.com/2025/10/25/happy-now/ https://van-horn.net/podcast/

    #103 Fan, Not Frontman | Darren Flook (EN) | Gallerist, Curator | London
  4. Mar 30

    # 102 Creating Meaning | Anna Helwing (EN) | Gallerist | Zurich

    From Global Hustle to Local Soul: A Return to Meaning & Connection In this episode, Anna and Daniela take us deep into therealities of working in the contemporary art world—sharing personal stories, professional turning points, and honest reflections on how the industry has evolved over the past decades. Anna recounts her early entry into the art scene, from her firstencounters with major figures like Yoko Ono to building her owngallery career across Europe and Los Angeles. Together, they explore the contrasts between museum and gallery work, the rise of the LA art scene in the early 2000s, and the pressures of running a gallery in a globalized market. The conversation also dives into the changing role of art fairs,the increasing business demands placed on artists, and the importance of maintaining a sustainable work-life balance—especially for women navigating both family and career. As the episode unfolds, Anna reflects on closing her gallery toprioritize family, her experience with large-scale galleryoperations, and her decision to return to a more intimate, locallygrounded gallery model in Zurich. The discussion closes with thoughts on collaboration, shifts inthe art market, and a shared vision for a more human-centered future in the art world. Topics include: Entering the art world & early influences Gallery vs. museum careers The LA art scene in the 2000s Art fairs and global market dynamics Work-life balance in a demanding industry Cultural differences in professional life Supporting mid-career and female artists Future collaborations and evolving gallery models https://www.annahelwing.com/ https://www.drawrecruitment.com/featured/bitesize-daily-anna-helwing-artbasel/ https://van-horn.net/podcast/

    # 102 Creating Meaning | Anna Helwing (EN) | Gallerist | Zurich
  5. Feb 27

    # 101 Thinking Together | Nicolaus Schafhausen (DE) | Gallerist, Curator, Author | Brussels

    Thinking Together Recorded live on February 7, 2026 – This episode is in German. In this live conversation, I speak with Nicolaus Schafhausen — gallerist, curator, author, and exhibition maker. Nicolaus began his career as an artist before consciously stepping into other roles within the art world, shaping institutions and discourses from multiple perspectives. Over the decades, he has co-founded the gallery Lukas & Hoffmann in Berlin and Cologne and has held numerous influential positions: Artistic Leader at Künstlerhaus Stuttgart, Director of Frankfurter Kunstverein, Founding Director of the European Kunsthalle in Cologne, Director of Witte de With in Rotterdam, Strategic Director of the Shorefast Foundation on Fogo Island, Commissioner of the German Pavilion at the 52nd and 53rd Venice Biennales, Director of Kunsthalle Wien — and most recently, Founder and Director of KIN, a gallery for contemporary art in Brussels. We begin briefly with the question of how Nicolaus carved out his own path in the arts — and then move directly into the present moment and its challenges. Who buys art today — and why? How has that changed in recent years? What shifts do we see coming? And how do we, as gallerists, respond? But also: To whom do we sell? Is there something like a moral radar when placing artworks? What responsibility do we carry toward artists, collectors, institutions — and toward one another? We speak openly about relationships: between artists and galleries, between money and values, between conviction and compromise. There are more questions than answers — but we both agree that thinking together, publicly and honestly, is a powerful place to begin. After the book recommendation, there is a bonus Q&A with the audience. Book Pick I recommend the Gereon Rath series by Volker Kutscher, the literary basis for the acclaimed TV series Babylon Berlin. Published in Germany by Kiepenheuer & Witsch, in English by Sandstone Press, and as an audiobook by OsterwoldAudio. The novels paint a vivid portrait of Berlin in the late 1920s and early 1930s — a city vibrating with jazz, avant-garde art, nightlife, and radical political energy during the Weimar Republic. What begins as a time of cultural freedom and experimentation gradually gives way to fear, propaganda, and conformity. Art and the press come under pressure — and with them, free thought itself. Kutscher shows how quickly an open society can erode when extremism, economic instability, and disinformation converge. It is a powerful reminder that art and culture are never neutral — they are deeply tied to freedom, and therefore often the first to be threatened. https://kinbrussels.com/ https://nicolausschafhausen.com/ https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Schafhausen https://van-horn.net/podcast/

    # 101 Thinking Together | Nicolaus Schafhausen (DE) | Gallerist, Curator, Author | Brussels
  6. Jan 30

    # 100 Learning & Looking | Jeff Magid (EN) | Collector | New York City

    "Always Learning, Always Looking: Collecting Art as an Endless Journey" I'm celebrating Episode 100 - a personal milestone, with a special guest and an honest conversation about art, power, and belonging. In this episode, I sit down with Jeff Magid—former songwriter and music producer turned art collector—for a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, access, and power in the art world. Jeff shares his path from growing up immersed in music and film in Boston to discovering the art world later in life while living in Brooklyn. What began as curiosity—sparked by friendships with art handlers and mentorship from artists like Slater Bradley—soon became a deeper commitment to learning, collecting, and questioning how the art world functions. Together, we explore: The differences between the music industry and the visual art world Why access to the art world often depends on who you know The importance of mentorship and cross-disciplinary learning Art openings, collectors, and the invisible social hierarchies in galleries Why inclusivity does not mean simplifying art The tension between commercial success and artistic merit Challenges faced by young and emerging collectors Why collecting should be driven by genuine connection—not status or speculation Quality over quantity in building meaningful art collections The conversation also looks forward, touching on emerging global art scenes, focused on collaboration, exchange, and community-driven art practices. A candid, thoughtful episode for artists, collectors, and anyone curious about how the art world is built—and how it might be reimagined. 69 min., Language english, recorded January 25, 2026 Portrait photo by Courtney Sofiah Yates for FRIEZE Links: Jeff on Instagram @magideye https://totalanimalsoup.substack.com/archive?sort=top https://www.artnews.com/art-news/opinion/art-market-open-door-policy-jeff-magid-1234753579/ https://www.frieze.com/article/jeff-magid-collecting-frieze-masters-magazine-2025 https://van-horn.net

    # 100 Learning & Looking | Jeff Magid (EN) | Collector | New York City
  7. 12/30/2025

    #99 Punk in Thinking | Claus Föttinger (DE) | Artist | Düsseldorf

    „A Punk in thinking - but not in production“ In this episode of Voices On Art I talk with Claus Föttinger, an artist based in Düsseldorf, known for developing a unique artistic language rooted in craft and a deep interest in diving into a variety of relevant themes. Föttinger creates objects that are artworks designed for use—social sculptures in the form of bars, tables, chairs, and especially lamps. His work is informed by extensive travel and long-term research, addressing themes that range from the deeply personal to questions of society, politics, the humanities, and culture. Wespeak about his early years growing up in Nuremberg his formative studies at the Kunstakademie Düsseldorf,and his reflections on past, present, and future. Claus also shares why he decided to stop making work directly responding to current global developments. This episode was recorded in March 2025 in German language and serves as a personal recap of the year 2025, as well as an glimpse on what's to come. It took place on the occasion of Claus Föttinger’s solo exhibition at VAN HORN. We're recording on site, so please excuse glitches in sound quality. We wish you a wonderful end to 2025 and a very happy New Year. Subscribe to „Voices On Art“ on our YouTube channel @vanhorngallery and follow the podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or the platform of your choice. Leave us a rating if you like it. Links: https://van-horn.net/exhibition/claus-foettinger/https://van-horn.net/exhibition/2016-claus-foettinger/https://www.wz.de/nrw/duesseldorf/nachbau-der-wm-bar-ist-reif-fuers-museum_aid-29030571https://park-der-sinne.com/unsere-kuenstler/claus-foettinger/

    #99 Punk in Thinking | Claus Föttinger (DE) | Artist | Düsseldorf

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This Podcast is about my personal and a lot of other peoples enthusiasm for art. What we have in common is our love for art and our life with art. Art will be at the center of all our talks. As art touches on all parts of life - we talk all parts of life! I hope to get you on board, to inspire you and to tell you interesting stories you enjoy listening to. Languages english or german. Subtitles available on our YouTube channel @vanhorngallery New Episodes bi-weekly or monthly. Instagram @voicesonart and @van_horn_duesseldorf website van-horn.net

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