Growth Over Goals

Montgomery Companies
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In this podcast, we emphasize the journey over the destination, the achievement of growth over goals. We invite our listeners to sit at the table with some of the top influencers, business owners and trailblazers across multiple industries and sectors, as we grow together in wisdom, courage, insight, and faith. We tackle some of the toughest leadership issues head-on, from culture to economic challenges, to growth barriers and disconnected dynamics, helping our listeners to cultivate proven strategies to enhance their business, performance, relationships, and life.

  1. Oct 30

    Courageous Leadership: Doing What’s Right When the Outcome Is Uncertain | Jon Gordon, Patrick Lencioni & Philip Sarnecki

    What does it actually mean to lead with courage when the outcome is uncertain? Jordan Montgomery sits down with Jon Gordon, Patrick Lencioni, and Philip Sarnecki for a powerful conversation about courageous leadership, difficult decisions, faith, fear, humility, and the willingness to do what you believe is right—even when there’s a cost. Together, they explore the difference between public, personal, and interpersonal courage, why courage is a muscle that must be exercised, and how leaders can navigate difficult conversations without becoming hostile. Patrick shares why leaders can’t spend all their energy trying to win over the naysayers, Jon explains why love and courage are deeply connected, and Philip reflects on leaving the safety of a successful business career to step into an entirely new arena. The group also discusses why certainty can actually eliminate the need for courage: if you already know exactly how a decision will turn out, “that’s not courage—that’s math.” The conversation goes deeper into faith, surrender, ego, adversity, and the moments that test what a leader truly believes. From Patrick’s perspective on Working Genius to Jon’s candid story about battling fear before taking the stage, this episode is a reminder that courageous leadership isn’t about having no fear—it’s about moving forward in spite of it. If you’re facing a difficult decision, an uncomfortable conversation, or a season that requires you to step outside your comfort zone, this conversation offers a powerful challenge: focus less on controlling the outcome and more on having the courage to take the next right step.

  2. Sep 24

    Chris Voss | Why “No” Is the Start of Better Negotiation

    Chris Voss is a former FBI lead kidnapping negotiator, bestselling author of Never Split The Difference, and founder and CEO of The Black Swan Group; a negotiation, training, coaching, and consulting organization that teaches people how to achieve better outcomes in high-stakes conversations.Recognized globally as a leading authority on negotiation, Chris developed his approach through decades of experience in crisis negotiation. Today, he and The Black Swan Group apply those principles to business, sales, leadership, difficult conversations, and high-stakes communication through The Black Swan Method® and Tactical Empathy®.Never Split The Difference has introduced millions of readers around the world to Chris's negotiation methodology. Through The Black Swan Group, Chris and his team help people go beyond understanding the concepts in the book and develop negotiation as a practical, repeatable performance skill through training, coaching, practice, and live experiences.The Black Swan Group offers in-person negotiation training, live and self-paced online negotiation training, coaching, keynote speaking, and advanced negotiation experiences for business owners, leaders, sales professionals, and other professionals who want to become more effective dealmakers.Learn from Chris Voss and The Black Swan Group:Negotiation training and resources: https://www.blackswanltd.com/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm=campaign=growthovergoalsIn-person and live training: https://www.blackswanltd.com/live-events?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=growthovergoalsOnline negotiation training: https://www.blackswanltd.com/online-negotiation-classes?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=growthovergoals Subscribe to Growth Over Goals and share this episode with someone who wants to become a better listener, communicator, and leader.

    Chris Voss | Why “No” Is the Start of Better Negotiation

  3. Sep 18

    Your Worth Is Bigger Than Your Performance w/ Tanner Morgan

    Who are you becoming beyond what you accomplish? Former University of Minnesota quarterback Tanner Morgan joins Jordan Montgomery on Growth Over Goals for an honest conversation about faith, humility, mentorship, and finding purpose beyond performance. From the excitement of signature football victories to the uncertainty of choosing his next chapter, Tanner shares how his relationship with Jesus shapes his identity and decisions. He opens up about prioritizing his family, serving through ministry, and trusting God when a good opportunity may not be the right one. Along the way, he reflects on the difference between the temporary satisfaction of public approval and the lasting purpose he finds in his faith. Tanner and Jordan also get practical about building authentic relationships, seeking mentors, and growing in wisdom. They discuss asking thoughtful questions, respecting the time others invest in you, and putting their guidance into action. It’s a conversation that challenges listeners to consider how their daily choices shape their character, relationships, and legacy. Subscribe to Growth Over Goals and share this episode with someone who needs a reminder that their worth reaches far beyond their performance.

    Your Worth Is Bigger Than Your Performance w/ Tanner Morgan

  4. Aug 13

    P. J. Fleck | Row the Boat, Building Culture & Leading Through Adversity

    University of Minnesota head football coach P. J. Fleck joins Jordan Montgomery for a high-energy conversation about leadership, purpose, culture and responding to adversity. P. J. shares the deeply personal origin of “Row the Boat,” explaining how the loss of his son Colton gave him a renewed purpose and changed the way he approaches life, leadership and the platform he has been given. From going 1–11 during his first season as a head coach to building one of college football’s most recognizable cultures, P. J. shares practical lessons for anyone who wants to lead with greater authenticity, consistency and purpose. Subscribe to the Growth Over Goals podcast for more conversations about leadership, faith, personal growth and building a life of meaningful impact.

  5. Jun 23

    Bennett Stirtz on Faith, Humility & His Unlikely Road to the NBA

    Bennett Stirtz joins Jordan Montgomery on the Growth Over Goals podcast just days before the NBA Draft to reflect on his remarkable journey from two Division II offers to becoming one of the most inspiring stories in college basketball. In this episode, Bennett shares how his faith, family, mentors, teammates, and coaches helped shape him into the leader he is today. He talks about the moment his work ethic changed, what he learned from Coach Ben McCollum, why he chose relationships and fit over a bigger NIL opportunity, and how he plans to stay grounded as he steps into marriage, a new city, and the next chapter of his basketball career. In this conversation, Jordan and Bennett discuss: • Going from overlooked recruit to projected NBA Draft pick • The role faith played in Bennett’s growth • Why being a great teammate creates opportunity • Turning down money and choosing what truly satisfies • Leadership lessons from Coach Ben McCollum and other mentors • Staying grounded when the lights get brighter • What Bennett wants to remain the same through every life change Bennett’s story is a powerful reminder that growth does not happen overnight. It comes through humility, consistency, faith, and the willingness to keep showing up when no one is watching.

    Bennett Stirtz on Faith, Humility & His Unlikely Road to the NBA

  6. Jun 9

    Jon Gordon | The Habits That Build Better Leaders

    In this episode of Growth Over Goals, Jordan Montgomery sits down with bestselling author, speaker, mentor, and longtime friend Jon Gordon for a powerful conversation about the daily habits that shape great leaders, stronger teams, and more meaningful lives. Jon shares insights from his newest book, The Power of Positive Habits, while unpacking the practices that have shaped his own journey. From becoming your own greatest encourager to forgiving fast, strengthening your strengths, choosing great over good, and learning how to slow down and enjoy the ride. This conversation is a masterclass in leadership, authenticity, friendship, and intentional growth. Whether you’re leading a team, building a business, raising a family, or simply trying to become the best version of yourself, Jon’s wisdom will challenge you to live with greater purpose, discipline, and joy. Order The Power of Positive Habits, subscribe to Growth Over Goals, and share this episode with someone who is committed to becoming a better leader.

    Jon Gordon | The Habits That Build Better Leaders

  7. May 27

    Follow Well to Lead Better | Jordan Montgomery on the Leadership Traits Most People Miss

    In this solo episode of Growth Over Goals, Jordan Montgomery unpacks one of the most underrated leadership traits: the ability to follow well. While leadership often gets the spotlight, Jordan challenges listeners with a powerful truth — if you are too big to follow, you are too small to lead. Jordan breaks down five traits of exceptional followers and explains why the best leaders remain open-minded, coachable, secure, and mission-focused. From owning the mission instead of just completing tasks, to handling tension with maturity, to making leaders better rather than more exhausted, this episode is a practical reminder that following well is not weakness — it is strength. You’ll be challenged to reflect on questions like: Where am I taking responsibility outside of my authority? Am I offering solutions or just pointing out problems? Does my leader get sharper because of me, or more exhausted? And where do I need to give credit away? If you want to grow as a leader, start by growing as a follower. This episode is a powerful reminder that leading well begins with learning how to follow well. Subscribe to the Growth Over Goals podcast for more conversations and solo episodes on leadership, influence, personal growth, and becoming the kind of person others want to follow. #GrowthOverGoals #JordanMontgomery #LeadershipDevelopment #PersonalGrowth #LeadWell #FollowWell #LeadershipPodcast #GrowthMindset #ServantLeadership

    Follow Well to Lead Better | Jordan Montgomery on the Leadership Traits Most People Miss

  8. May 6

    Make It Without Losing It | Jess Ekstrom on Success, Identity & the Arrival Trap

    In this episode of Growth Over Goals, Jordan Montgomery sits down with bestselling author and speaker Jess Ekstrom to unpack the tension so many high performers face; how to chase success without losing yourself in the process.Jess shares the heart behind her new book Making It Without Losing It, diving into the “arrival trap,” the lies we believe about our worth, and the pressure to always chase what’s next. Through personal stories, practical wisdom, and powerful reframes, this conversation challenges listeners to rethink what success really means, and how to pursue it in a way that actually leads to fulfillment.From redefining identity to learning how to lead, communicate, and live with intention, this episode is packed with insights for anyone striving for more while trying to stay grounded in what matters most.If you’ve ever felt stuck in the cycle of “once I get there, then I’ll be happy,” this conversation is for you.🎧 Subscribe for more conversations on leadership, growth, and living with purpose.

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In this podcast, we emphasize the journey over the destination, the achievement of growth over goals. We invite our listeners to sit at the table with some of the top influencers, business owners and trailblazers across multiple industries and sectors, as we grow together in wisdom, courage, insight, and faith. We tackle some of the toughest leadership issues head-on, from culture to economic challenges, to growth barriers and disconnected dynamics, helping our listeners to cultivate proven strategies to enhance their business, performance, relationships, and life.

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  • Creator
    Montgomery Companies
  • Years Active
    2020 - 2026
  • Episodes
    168
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Montgomery Companies
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    Growth Over Goals

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