Leaving Eden Podcast

Leaving Eden LLC

An Ex-Fundie, Deconstruction, and Cult podcast as told by cult survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavi HaCohen. This podcast covers Sadie's cult, (The Independent Fundamental Baptist church), other cults, (including Jonestown and the Branch Davidians), cult-related media (including reality TV shows and documentaries like The Duggars/19 Kids and Counting, Shiny Happy People, Welcome to Plathville, and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City), famous fundamentalist and fundie influencers, other religions, and the real and present threat that cults and cult ideologies pose to society as a whole. Our goal is to promote freedom of mind, freedom of thought, and freedom of religion. For press, sponsorship, and other inquiries, contact LeavingEdenPod@gmail.com Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Social Media: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. 5 ultra-specific rules of Christian Fundamentalism that make no sense

    1D AGO

    5 ultra-specific rules of Christian Fundamentalism that make no sense

    Sadie takes us through the five categories of Crazy Fundie Rules, and how these rules affect your life when you are trying to live by them. Some of them have biblical justifications, some of them are completely made up by some pastor somewhere and ended up being widely adopted. Fundie pastors use these rules as a way to physically and psychologically control church members, and they can be quite draconian. What are the most arbitrary rules that your church had growing up? Let us know in the comments! 02:00 - Is it a sin to walk down the beer aisle in the grocery store? 02:23 - Proverbs 23:31 02:40 - Genesis 3:1-3 03:07 - Crazy Fundie Rules 03:52 - Join our Patreon! 04:37 - The 5 Categories 05:40 - Category 1 05:50 - Prohibition on Tattoos 06:55 - Carl Lentz 07:12 - Pete Hegseth 07:22 - Jewish law vs. Christian Interpretation 10:30 - Joyce Meyer's tattoo 11:47 - Thank you to our patrons! 14:13 - Deuteronomy 22:5 16:45 - Deadmau5 and the Ferrari 17:02 - Why the Duggar Daughters didn't wear pants 18:15 - Coulottes vs. JNCO Jeans 19:59 - Jealousy is a sin, wanting to do a sin is a sin 21:30 - Fundie Women find a way to rebel 24:00 - Visibly religious people get harassed the most! 26:11 - Category 2 26:31 - Being suspected of sinning is a sin 27:04 - Jack Schaap's crimes 28:27 - Going to the movies is a sin 29:01 - Bee Movie and There Will Be Blood were in the movie theater at the same time 30:14 - Walking down the beer aisle is a sin 30:49 - Category 3 32:30 - Going to Six Flags is a sin 34:17 - Category 4 34:36 - Doing anything that you want to do is a sin 35:00 - Teen Soulwinning is the worst 36:00 - Holy Guilt Trip Batman 36:43 - Wanting a snickers bar is a sin 37:45 - Great Britain is full of heathens 39:00 - Wanting a pretty wife is a sin 40:00 - It is a sin to not be miserable 40:40 - Category 5 41:00 - Hosiery Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    40 min
  2. Are we living in a SIMULATION?

    MAR 3

    Are we living in a SIMULATION?

    Today, Gavi FINALLY gets to talk about his favorite topic, Jean Beaudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation," which explains Hyperreality. "The Matrix" film is allegorical to the postmodern condition of Hyperreality. We discuss examples of simulacra, Hyperreality, and the history of how we (in the western canon) came to view the world this way. We discuss simulated reality as it relates to christian fundamentalism and the US. If you have any thoughts, opinions, or questions about this topic (or corrections) please let us know either by comment or by emailing us at LeavingEdenPod@gmail.com! We would love to do a listener responses episdoe! 02:00 - Intro 02:20 - Black Mirror San Junipero 03:15 - The Matrix 03:30 - Elon Musk 03:48 - Mark Zuckerberg and the Metaverse 04:10 - Please subscribe to our Patreon! 04:40 - Media Theory and Philosophy 05:17 - I'm sorry for mixing up SimulaCRA and SimulaCRUM 05:47 - Jean Baudrillard's "Hyperreality" 06:04 - Simulacra and Simulation 07:10 - First Order Simulacrum 07:40 - Second Order Simulacrum 07:55 - Third Order Simulacrum, Hyperreality 08:29 - Fourth Order Simulacrum, or Pure Simulation 08:50 - Alexander Hamilton to Scamilton is Hyperreality 11:07 - Christian Nationalism and Hyperreality 12:54 - Hyperreality and Pure Simulation are curated reality 13:30 - Did Sadie grow up in a simulation? 13:50 - Kim Kardashian's butt broke the internet 14:54 - The 6 7 meme is proof that we are living in a simulation 15:30 - Doot Doot 6 7 by Skrilla 15:50 - Lamello Ball 16:00 - The 6 7 kid is Hyperreality and the meme is pure simulation 17:19 - Brainrot is hyperreality 18:50 - Thank you to our patrons! 20:17 - The Civil War and the birth of Modernism 21:50 - Modernist themes, truth comes from struggle and effort 22:17 - Upton Sinclair, The Jungle 22:30 - John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath 22:50 - Gone With the Wind 24:00 - Little Women 24:34 - The Civil War, Transcendentalism, Naturalism 25:05 - The birth of postmodernism 25:15 - Dada art movement (dadaism) 25:26 - Anything can be a source of truth 25:30 - The gifts of postmodernism, Civil rights, LGBT rights, Women's Lib movement 25:55 - World War 2 and the nuclear age 27:10 - Love is Blind, Kobe Bryant, Fresh off the Boat, Scottish Independence referendum 28:45 - Absurdism, Memes, and Breadtube Spongebob 29:04 - The drawbacks of postmodernism 30:00 - Hyperreality, 9/11 31:22 - Loss of sense of self 32:04 - Michael Jackson, Prince, Robin Williams, George Carlin, Jesus, AI Deepfakes 32:35 - Leonard Cohen 32:50 - Bag Culture, Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, Jason Kelce, Commercials 34:35 - Prince Harry and Meghan Markle 36:28 - Please email us! 37:01 - Our current state of Hyperreality 37:31 - Doctors vs. Anti-Vaxxers and influencers 37:41 - Teachers vs. Homeschoolers 38:07 - Doomerism 38:17 - It's going to be OK? 38:38 - The early church 38:50 - Jesus was a guy (probably?) 39:11 - The Disciples (first order Simulacrum) 39:22 - The Council of Nicaea (Second order Simulacrum) 39:40 - Church Tradition (Third Order Simulacra, or Hyperreality) 40:10 - Culture War/Kid Rock Turning Point USA halftime show 40:45 - Growing up in a cult vs. growing up in a simulation 41:04 - Destruction of the 2nd Temple happened, Revelation is a first order simulacrum 41:35 - Millerism, Adventism, Premillennial Pretribulationism are second order simulacra 41:45 - Protocols of the elders of Zion, A Thief in the Night, and Left Behind are all third order simulacra or Hyperreality 42:12 - The Holocaust, McCarthyism and the Red Scare, Satanic Panic, Q Anon, January 6, 2025 Rapture Hoax, are mass delusion brought on by pure simulation 44:20 - Hyperreality peaked in 2020 44:45 - The end of COVID-19 and the rise of AI 45:04 - What is coming next? 45:45 - AI CEOs are grifters 46:32 - Minor League Baseball 47:10 - 2020, Social Unrest, George Floyd protests, Anti-Mask/Vaxx 48:14 - Transcendentalism, Naturalism, humanity's relationship with nature, Oliver Wendel Holmes, Henry David Thoreau, Walt Whitman 50:29 - The next movement Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    49 min
  3. Do we live in a Post-Truth society?

    FEB 24

    Do we live in a Post-Truth society?

    In this episode, Sadie takes us through two different theories of truth, and what it means for a statement to be true or not true. In using these two theories of truth, we discuss how anti-trans crusaders like Matt Walsh or Christian fundamentalist biblical literalists use bait-and-switch tactics to distort what their followers perceive as the truth. These bad faith arguments can be avoided by avoiding circular logic traps. 00:00 - Intro 00:47 - Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast is where the bonus content is! 01:30 - Is a hot dog a sandwich? 01:50 - We support trans people 02:05 - What is a post-truth society? 02:20 - Authoritarian populists like Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin 03:00 - Postmodernism 03:44 - The Philosophical Definition 04:39 - What is a woman? 05:00 - Caitlyn Jenner 05:30 - The correspondence theory of truth 06:45 - The coherence theory of truth 08:30 - Thank you to our wonderful patrons! 10:00 - Truth conforms to the entire ecosystem of other things that are true 10:10 - What is a sandwich? 10:54 - Matt Walsh argues in bad faith 12:45 - Bioessentialist transphobia does not hold up to scrutiny 13:22 - The King James Bible 15:15 - Hateful comments on social media 16:10 - The Bible is true because the bible says that the bible is true 16:20 - Cult control tactics and brainwashing 19:30 - Atheism vs. Religion debate 20:00 - Is personal experience evidence? 20:55 - Realism and Anti-Realism 22:22 - anti-realism 23:58 - Big questions 24:38 - Color theory 25:18 - Berlin and Kay's theory of Basic Color Terms 26:58 - WHAT COLOR IS SADIE'S HAIR? 28:27 - Sadie is the proof 30:03 - John Calvin profile pic 30:53 - Sadie once had a man 31:08 - Capitalism is the root of all christian misogyny (not actually) 33:38 - What is proof? 36:04 - Are we living in a simulation? Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    38 min
  4. The Insane Reason Why Fundies ONLY Use The King James Bible

    FEB 17

    The Insane Reason Why Fundies ONLY Use The King James Bible

    In this episode, Sadie takes us through the bizarre reasoning behind Fundamentalism's stipulation that the King James version is NOT ONLY the "best" version of the bible in English, but that it is actually not a translation, but God's own words, just as valid as the original texts in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. We also discuss how this belief leads to other fundie beliefs like quiverfull, and women wearing only skirts and no pants. Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast! Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJu Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social TikTok: @LeavingEdenPodcast @SadieCarpenter1 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    58 min
  5. The Purity Culture Fundie Dating Manual MORE EXTREME Than I Kissed Dating Goodbye

    FEB 14 · BONUS

    The Purity Culture Fundie Dating Manual MORE EXTREME Than I Kissed Dating Goodbye

    In this episode, we review "Dating With a Purpose," which is an IFB purity culture dating manual targeted at teens and young adults in the IFB and at Hyles-Anderson college. It was written by Jack Schaap, who later went to prison for sexually abusing a child who was a student at the high school where he was chaplain. We also discuss Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family's appearance in the Epstein files, and why abusers love purity culture so much. Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast! Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJu Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social TikTok: @LeavingEdenPodcast @SadieCarpenter1 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    54 min
  6. Winning McDonald's to Jesus

    FEB 10

    Winning McDonald's to Jesus

    Sadie Carpenter tells us all about Soul Winning, the IFB practice of knocking on doors in order to witness to people and to get them to join your church. She tells us stories of trapping kids in the McDonald's PlayPlace, getting guns pulled on her, and we read through a soulwinning textbook that teaches how to witness to a Jewish person! We hope you enjoy! Support the show by going to Patreon.Com/LeavingEdenPodcast! Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJu Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social TikTok: @LeavingEdenPodcast @SadieCarpenter1 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 1m
  7. Fundies YEARN for the year 100 AD

    FEB 3

    Fundies YEARN for the year 100 AD

    In this episode, we discuss what the early church actually was, and how Christianity was formed as much by Paul as it was by Jesus. Citations for claims about the authorship of the bible: Tabor, J. D. (2013). Paul and Jesus: how the Apostle transformed Christianity. Simon & Schuster.Tabor, J. (2025, June 10). The quest for the historical paul. Biblical Archaeology Society. https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/the-quest-for-the-historical-paul/Join our discord server! https://discord.gg/aneFkUJu Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Join our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodus Bluesky: @leavingedenpodcast.bsky.social @hellyeahsadie.bsky.social @gavihacohen.bsky.social Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/ https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    44 min

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An Ex-Fundie, Deconstruction, and Cult podcast as told by cult survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavi HaCohen. This podcast covers Sadie's cult, (The Independent Fundamental Baptist church), other cults, (including Jonestown and the Branch Davidians), cult-related media (including reality TV shows and documentaries like The Duggars/19 Kids and Counting, Shiny Happy People, Welcome to Plathville, and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City), famous fundamentalist and fundie influencers, other religions, and the real and present threat that cults and cult ideologies pose to society as a whole. Our goal is to promote freedom of mind, freedom of thought, and freedom of religion. For press, sponsorship, and other inquiries, contact LeavingEdenPod@gmail.com Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Join our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans! https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodus Social Media: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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