"When you push just slightly too hard, you went past the fascia. When you don't push enough, you're not in connection with it. When you find that exact still point - the boundary between my finger and the client's body dissolves." Explore this episode and deeper teachings on somatic sexual healing: https://rahichun.com/podcast/susanne-roursgaard-stine-krage-soft-de-armoring/ Who this episode is for: Pelvic floor and sexuality practitioners ready to go deeper, and anyone who has sensed their body is holding something that has never had language - or safe enough conditions to surface. Susanne Roursgaard is the originator of soft de-armoring and the Gaia Method — a body-oriented modality weaving together de-armoring, breathwork, sound, movement, energy work, and psychotherapy. A psychotherapist, body-oriented trauma therapist, family therapist, and sexologist specializing in sexual abuse, she brings 23 years as a midwife and over 30 years of experience to her practitioner trainings across Europe and beyond. Stine Krage is a certified midwife, somatic therapist, integral sexologist, and Compassionate Inquiry practitioner. Through her practice Amosoma and as co-creator of the Prostatic Portal, she has become one of the most respected voices in male sexual health, prostate healing, and the intersection of emotional release and erotic aliveness. In this conversation: What de-armoring actually is - how it differs from massage, what it touches in the fascia, and what "matching tone" means for a practitionerWhy 70–80% of what lives in the genital tissue traces to early childhood wounds that have nothing to do with adult sexualityHow the body tests the practitioner before it trusts - and what it takes to pass that testWhat prostate work reveals about male surrender, and why men arrive carrying shame about the very area most in need of healingHow breath patterns can lock the nervous system in fight-or-flight - and why Stine addresses breath before she addresses anything elseThe role of sound and sounding in de-armoring: vocal cords, Tibetan bowls, and why frequency medicine bypasses the mind's defensesWhat genuine space holding requires - including why sexual energy leaking from a practitioner into a session is a real and addressable phenomenonThe psoas as a psychoemotional and sexual organ: why you cannot massage it into release, and what indirect approaches actually workTimestamps: 00:00 — Rahi introduces Susanne and Stine: the two most-downloaded guests in five years of the podcast01:00 — Susanne Roursgaard's bio: the Gaia Method, soft de-armoring, practitioner training across Europe02:00 — Stine Krage's bio: Amasoma, the Prostatic Portal, male sexual health and prostate healing04:00 — What de-armoring actually is: fascia, nervous system, and the ultra-light touch05:00 — "Matching tone": the still point where the boundary between practitioner and client dissolves06:00 — The energy body, the HeartMath Institute, and the two layers de-armoring works on simultaneously07:00 — Presence without agenda: why being a blank slate is a cultivated skill09:00 — Why the body tests the practitioner before it opens — and what that testing looks like11:00 — How Stine's sessions begin the moment a client walks in the room13:00 — Why the pelvis holds so much — and the cultural avoidance of genital touch for healing15:00 — Why Susanne stopped using the phrase "sexual de-armoring" — and what the tissue actually reveals17:00 — The core wounds that surface in pelvic work: self-worth, shame, and the voices formed in early childhood19:00 — Prostate work: the parallel between prostate and cervix wiring, and what surprises people most20:00 — The level of surrender prostate work requires — and why it is so transformative for men22:00 — Space holding: what it genuinely requires of a practitioner25:00 — Clear sexual boundaries in retreat and session containers — and why ambiguity here costs clients safety26:00 — Slowness as a skill: how slowing down creates the conditions for the body to surface what it holds28:00 — Breath as a diagnostic and therapeutic tool: the three diaphragms and how Stine reads breath from intake onward30:00 — Breathing space into tension: a simple practice for communicating with the body through breath32:00 — Over-breathing, CO2 tolerance, and why a trauma breath pattern can make de-armoring unreachable34:00 — Sounding in de-armoring sessions: vocal cords, the cervix and prostate connection, and amplifying what the body is already doing36:00 — Tuning forks versus Tibetan versus crystal bowls — and why overtones matter37:00 — The advanced Gaia Method training: how it came together and what excited both practitioners about bringing it to the field39:00 — Why clinical knowledge matters alongside intuition — including when erectile dysfunction signals the need for medical referral first41:00 — Palpation training: why practitioners need their fingers to recognize anatomy, not just their minds43:00 — Energetic ethics: why sexual healing is a murky field and what this training does about it44:00 — Learning to consciously open and close sexual energy flow — and the live feedback process in training47:00 — The three-month online container: seven modules, monthly Q&A, and how the live intensive is structured48:00 — Specialized trauma knowledge: how early childhood sexual abuse and adult sexual abuse present differently in the body49:00 — The psoas as the seed of the soul: fight/flight/freeze, TRE, the vagus nerve, and the rebozo tradition50:00 — Why the psoas cannot be directly manipulated — and what indirect approaches actually work51:00 — How to find the training, the landing page, and the application process for practitioners outside the Gaia Method54:00 — Susanne's retreats for non-practitioners, her online female community, and the coming 21-day embodiment challenge55:00 — Stine's Prostatic Portal practitioner training and add-on certification pathway57:00 — Closing reflectionsResources & Links Susanne Roursgaard & the Gaia Method: https://the-gaia-method.com Stine Krage & the Prostatic Portal: https://theprostaticportal.com/ Stine's practice, Amosoma: http://amosoma.com/ Advanced Gaia Method training: https://gaiatrain-ke7mejo6.manus.space/ The Gaia Method 21-Day Challenge: July 2-July 22: https://www.the-gaia-method.com/product-page/21-day-challenge-a-womens-journey The 3 Keys to Genital De-Armoring — Rahi's practitioner training: https://rahichun.mykajabi.com/the-3-keys-live-training-CA Reclaiming Your Pleasure course: https://rahichun.com/reclaimingyourpleasure/ If this conversation reached something in you — follow, share with a practitioner colleague or someone on their somatic healing path, and leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. 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