Buy Grow Sell

Simon Bedard

Buy Grow Sell is the podcast for business owners on what it actually takes to buy, grow, and sell a business. Each episode features real stories and expert conversations on the decisions, deals, and conditions that shape business outcomes. Hosted by Simon Bedard, Founder and Managing Director of Exit Advisory Group, National Chair of the Australian Institute of Business Brokers, and author of Exit Like an Expert. Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and YouTube.

  1. 2d ago

    EP105 How Andy Crebar Bought Wolf IQ: The Buyer's Side of the Deal

    "We must have looked at 150 different businesses." Andy Crebar was searching for a business that was already working, and the one he chose was Wolf IQ, the digital agency founded by Heath Maguire. Exit Advisory Group represented Heath in the sale, so this is the buyer's side of that deal. Andy spent four years at Macquarie Bank, then a decade in San Francisco building and selling two startups, including a software company that had its best year in the middle of the pandemic. He tells Simon Bedard why he chose Wolf IQ on fit with the founder and the culture, what happened to the team after the sale, what helps a first-time buyer, and the US deal he walked away from because he could not pay the multiple. In this episode: • What a buyer looks at first when a business lands on their desk • Why fit with the founder and the culture can matter more than the multiple • How a well-prepared data room tells a buyer you are serious • Why moving the goalposts in a negotiation erodes trust • What AI is changing for small-business websites, and what it can't do Exit Like an Expert, Simon's book, is the practical guide the show is built on: https://exitadvisory.com.au/exit-like-an-expert?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=bgs-ep105&utm_content=description-book Full show notes, chapters and FAQs: https://exitadvisory.com.au/podcast/how-andy-crebar-bought-wolf-iq?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=bgs-ep105&utm_content=description-episodepage Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/FGaeKi4yqCk Connect with Andy Crebar Website: https://www.andycrebar.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andycrebar Connect with Simon Bedard LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/srhbedard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://exitadvisory.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://buygrowsell.com/ Related episodes: EP104 Heath Maguire (Wolf IQ, the seller's side), EP103 Charlie Emery (SOILCO), and EP102 Geoff Green (Fliteboard) 0:00 Introducing Andy Crebar 2:18 How Simon and Andy met: opposite sides of the Wolf IQ deal 3:01 From Macquarie to a one-way ticket to San Francisco 4:47 Buying a business that already works: 150 businesses 5:36 Money as the sanity check, then fit 6:53 Synergies, and taking the good with the bad 8:02 Failing accounting, and the Macquarie pressure cooker 9:54 Be, do, have 10:52 The language of business 12:32 San Francisco: a mentor, then a first startup 14:24 March 2020, and the best year ever 15:41 The 2021 deal spike and interest rates 17:06 Multiples cut in half 18:12 Life after his first sale: when you sell, you sell 19:16 A second startup, and coming home 20:41 Running a business with 520 customers 22:24 The Wolf IQ deal 25:39 You don't know what you don't know 27:27 Price expectations and the terms behind big multiples 29:33 What helps a first-time buyer 31:31 What buyers can do better 34:28 Professional signals and being organised 37:15 AI and the last mile 40:33 Would Andy sell Wolf IQ? 41:36 Strategic fit over the multiple 43:18 Moving the goalposts kills deals 44:34 Exit Like an Expert 45:21 Simon's takeaway

    EP105 How Andy Crebar Bought Wolf IQ: The Buyer's Side of the Deal
  2. Oct 13

    EP104 How Heath Maguire Sold Wolf IQ: Planning a Digital Agency Exit

    Heath Maguire started talking to Simon Bedard about selling his digital agency, Wolf IQ, four to five years before he went to market. When the conversation turned to price, his answer was this: "It was never a number. It was more so what the deal was going to enable me to do." For Heath, that meant a six-week holiday with his wife and two kids, and paying off the family home. Exit Advisory Group ran the sale, so this is a client's account of the process from his side of the table. He talks Simon through how he planned it: merging two agencies so the business could be sold as one, documenting it so thoroughly that over 200 pieces of information went into due diligence, and a three-month handover. He also covers growing on referrals in a medical-specialist niche, building a team in the Philippines, and what he would do differently. In this episode: - How to set a goal for your sale that keeps emotion out of the negotiation - Why the structure of your business may need fixing years before you go to market - What a buyer pays for in an agency, and why recurring revenue matters - How documented systems shorten due diligence and the handover - How to weigh an upfront payment against an earn-out Exit Like an Expert, Simon's book, is the practical guide the show is built on: https://exitadvisory.com.au/exit-like-an-expert?utm_source=spotify&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=bgs-ep104&utm_content=description-book Full show notes, transcript and FAQ: https://exitadvisory.com.au/podcast/how-heath-maguire-sold-wolf-iq?utm_source=spotify&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=bgs-ep104&utm_content=description-episodepage Connect with Heath Maguire Website: ⁠https://hmedge.com.au/ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathmaguire/ Connect with Simon Bedard LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/srhbedard⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://exitadvisory.com.au/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://buygrowsell.com/ Related episodes: EP103 Charlie Emery (SOILCO), EP102 Geoff Green (Fliteboard), and EP101 Jason Howard (StudyLink) 0:00 Simon introduces Heath 1:34 How Simon and Heath met 2:13 From the family restaurant to events to his own agency 4:15 A car wash at 12, and what family business teaches you 5:51 His mum's lesson: just show up 7:03 Starting Wolf IQ and finding the medical niche 8:57 Starting a business before you quit your job 11:19 Growing on referrals and white-label work 13:55 COVID, working from home and the Philippines team 16:32 Making an offshore team work 20:43 Why he started planning the exit early 22:54 Clarity takes the emotion out of a sale 23:51 Two agencies into one before going to market 26:43 Where AI is taking agencies 29:44 The sale process and the broker's role 33:12 The right outcome, clients and legacy 34:47 Exit by design: the business in a binder 36:21 Owning a business versus being a business owner 37:21 What he would do differently 38:54 It was never a number 40:01 Terms have value too 41:14 Upfront payments and changing term sheets 42:57 What sets a multiple 44:28 Advice for agency owners thinking about selling 46:12 Life after the sale: Simple Home Edit 50:31 The book and Simon's takeaways

    EP104 How Heath Maguire Sold Wolf IQ: Planning a Digital Agency Exit
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Buy Grow Sell is the podcast for business owners on what it actually takes to buy, grow, and sell a business. Each episode features real stories and expert conversations on the decisions, deals, and conditions that shape business outcomes. Hosted by Simon Bedard, Founder and Managing Director of Exit Advisory Group, National Chair of the Australian Institute of Business Brokers, and author of Exit Like an Expert. Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and YouTube.

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