What if the very behaviors you judge in yourself and others are not flaws at all, but echoes of subconscious programming and unresolved trauma waiting to be understood? In this thought-provoking conversation, Dr. Tracey Steady-Hardcastle sits down with Kelley Oswin and Laura Slinn of New Avalon to explore their unique approach to Evolved Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP). Together, they unpack how subconscious programming, trauma awareness, and values levels shape human behavior—and how practitioners can use these insights for healing, transformation, and sustainable coaching practices. Laura Slinn and Kelley Oswin are the co-founders of New Avalon, a graduate-level training platform for coaches, practitioners, and leaders ready to integrate advanced neuroscience, trauma-informed facilitation, and identity-level transformation into their work. With over 30 years of combined experience across clinical social work, applied neuroscience, creative direction, and values-level coaching, Laura and Kelley have worked with thousands of individuals through one-on-one mentorship, group coaching, live retreats, and practitioner certifications. They certify coaches and practitioners across multiple modalities and are known both for their ethical, evidence-informed approach and for the profound, miracle-driven results they help facilitate through deep subconscious and cellular-level transformation. They are co-authors of the best-selling books Evolved NLP and Is Coaching Your Calling?, and are widely respected for translating deep inner work into clear, embodied leadership. Their methodology blends neurosomatic tools, evolved NLP, and developmental theory to support the next generation of ethical, impact-driven practitioners. This conversation blends science, spirituality, and psychology, offering practical tools for coaches, healers, and anyone navigating personal growth in complex times. This episode is a must for anyone seeking: Tools to integrate trauma awareness into their practiceInsights into values levels and spiral dynamicsStrategies to avoid burnout and navigate high-functioning codependencyInspiration from two leaders blending science, spirituality, and psychologyExcitingly, Kelley and Laura are launching a brand-new course with our very own DNA University, bringing their evolved NLP framework and trauma-conscious coaching practices to a wider audience of learners and practitioners. If you wish to learn more from Kelley and Laura, check out the following links: Website: https://www.avalonempowerment.com/Instagram: @kelleyoswin, @laura_slinn______________________________________________________ Keep yourself up to date on The DNA Talks Podcast! Follow our socials below: The DNA Talks Podcast Instagram: @dnatalkspodcast The DNA Company Instagram: @thednaco The DNA Company's Official Tiktok Account: @thednaco3 Medical Disclaimer: The information provided in this communication is for general informational purposes only and is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read here. If you think you may have a medical emergency, call your doctor or 911 immediately.