We Are, Marketing Happy - A Healthcare Marketing Podcast

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Healthcare marketing is always evolving, and We Are, Marketing Happy is here to help you make sense of it. Hosted by Jenny Bristow, CEO and founder of the healthcare marketing agency Hedy & Hopp, this award-winning podcast explores the latest shifts, challenges, and innovations shaping the industry today. Follow along, share with your team, and let us know what topics you’d like us to explore next. Learn more about Hedy & Hopp at www.hedyandhopp.com.

  1. AI Adoption with Content Marketing: The Good, the Bad, and the Practical

    JAN 23

    AI Adoption with Content Marketing: The Good, the Bad, and the Practical

    Jenny Bristow, CEO & Founder of Hedy & Hopp, is joined by Ben Riggs, Content Manager at Kettering Health, to discuss the current state of AI and content marketing in healthcare. They explore the healthy tension between the excitement and fear of rapidly advancing AI tools, how marketers are leveraging Large Language Models (LLMs) for content creation and strategy, and the importance of centering consumer trust in an age of AI-generated content. Episode notes: The AI Tension in Healthcare Marketing: Discussion on the "mind-blowing" capabilities and "alarming" risks of new AI video tools (like Arcads), and the fear of increasing distrust in the medical community due to easily generated, inauthentic content. Decreasing Consumer Trust Online: A new eMarketer report shows that consumer trust in online content is decreasing due to the quick growth of AI-generated content in written, video, and image formats. The Evolution of AI Application: Ben details moving from using AI for basic research and data aggregation to leveraging Large Language Models (LLMs) to investigate existing content and strategically find the "consumer gap" for new, relevant content. NotebookLM as a Productivity Booster: Highlighting NotebookLM as a helpful tool for content writers, describing its utility for safe, precise, investigative thought-partner conversations, writing long-form content, and creating podcasts to help easily digest materials. Prioritizing Foundational Marketing: Emphasizing the importance of strong basic SEO and practitioner practices (keywords, schema) before focusing solely on optimizing content for new AI strategies like GEO (Generative Engine Optimization). The Strategy of Dual Optimization: The Kettering Health team’s strategy is to "write both for humans and for humans using AI," prioritizing human-readable, scannable content that is informative and front-loaded with value. Re-Energizing Audience-Centric Content: The shift towards phrase-based search in LLMs has reinforced the need for robust persona development and audience-oriented messaging, proving that the foundation of effective content marketing remains "basic marketing" (user journey, messaging strategy). Looking to a Future of Trust and Responsible AI Adoption: Looking ahead, the hope is for the healthcare industry to adopt a definitive posture on responsible AI engagement, focusing on infrastructure and clear conversations about limits to ensure that AI utilization cultivates and maintains consumer trust. Connect with Jenny: Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/ Connect with Ben: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bendriggs/  If you enjoyed this episode, we’d love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others.

    25 min
  2. Epic UTM Connect

    JAN 16

    Epic UTM Connect

    Jenny Bristow and Vice President of Data & Technology Mark Brandes of Hedy & Hopp discuss their proprietary solution, Epic UTM Connect*, developed to help healthcare marketers bridge the long-standing data gap between digital marketing campaigns and patient acquisition and revenue within their Electronic Health Record (EHR) system. They explain the challenges of achieving true marketing ROI in a privacy-forward world and detail how this one-time project allows for patient-level attribution and improved performance measurement. Episode notes: The Data Disconnect: Hedy & Hopp created Epic UTM Connect to help healthcare marketers overcome the persistent struggle to access and show true business impact data (patient appointments, revenue) versus engagement metrics marketers can break down by UTM parameters. What Epic UTM Connect Is: A tool that captures UTM parameters from digital campaigns, packages them, and securely inserts them into the Epic patient record. Achieving True ROI: The ability to track a patient's journey from a marketing touchpoint all the way through appointment and fulfillment to calculate the return on investment (ROI). Easy & Fast Implementation: The tool is fast and lightweight to implement and doesn’t require Hedy & Hopp to gain analyst access to Epic. Implementation only requires access to website analytics and the CMS. Technology & Compliance: The solution is HIPAA compliant and secure, leveraging the healthcare organization's existing Business Associate Agreement (BAA) with Epic. It works with any web analytics platform (Google Analytics, Adobe Analytics, Site Improve, etc.) by pulling data directly from the website. Use Case Requirements: The solution's effectiveness is dependent on the organization having a consistent and well-defined UTM parameter strategy in place. Attribution Limitations: The tool primarily provides last-touch attribution, meaning it will not capture the source of every conversion and will show gaps in the full multi-touch patient journey. Standalone Value: Epic UTM Connect is a standalone, one-time implementation that is valuable for improving visibility and does not require healthcare marketing teams to use other Epic marketing tools. Learn more about Hedy & Hopp’s Epic capabilities: https://hedyandhopp.com/our-expertise/epic-for-healthcare-marketing/ Contact Hedy & Hopp to chat with us about how Epic UTM Connect can support your marketing efforts: https://hedyandhopp.com/connect-with-us/ Connect with Jenny: Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/Connect with Mark: Email: mark.brandes@hedyandhopp.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markbrandes/ If you enjoyed this episode, we’d love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others. *Epic®, Epic Systems, and related product names and logos are trademarks or registered trademarks of Epic Systems Corporation. This content is not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Epic Systems Corporation.

    13 min
  3. The Digital Domino Disaster

    12/12/2025

    The Digital Domino Disaster

    Jenny Bristow and Senior Digital Producer Suzie Schmitt of Hedy & Hopp discuss the pervasive, yet often misunderstood, risks of tech dependencies for healthcare marketers. They explain what happens when single points of failure like AWS and Cloudflare experience outages, examine the instability of the internet's open-source foundation, and explain why these issues uniquely impact healthcare organizations. Learn actionable steps to create, document, and execute a disaster plan to mitigate operational and compliance risks. Episode notes: Understanding Tech Dependency Risks: How the internet's "Jenga tower" of dependencies creates massive ripple effects from a single break Cloud Monopolies and Backup Strategy: The risk of relying on three major cloud providers (AWS, Azure, GCP) and the need to have your website backup on a separate infrastructure from your production environment The Open-Source Developer Issue: The unsustainability of large enterprises depending on unpaid, volunteer open-source developers Cloudflare Explained: How this intermediary service facilitates a secure and faster internet, and what happens when it fails The Responsibility of Covered Entities: The HIPAA breach notification clock starts when an outage occurs, so it’s important to clearly document the timeline of events Creating a Disaster Plan and Crisis Communication Strategy: The necessity of defining roles and establishing a communication plan for an inevitable failure Documenting Dependencies: Steps to list and track all dependencies so that you can quickly assess if an outage impacts your website Marketing's Role in Security: Why outage communication falls to the marketing team and the need for close alignment with IT on the disaster plan Connect with Jenny: Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/ Connect with Suzie: Email: suzie.schmitt@hedyandhopp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzie-schmitt/  If you enjoyed this episode, we’d love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others.

    18 min
  4. HCIC 2025: Doing More with Less & Other Key Takeaways

    11/14/2025

    HCIC 2025: Doing More with Less & Other Key Takeaways

    Hedy & Hopp CEO & Founder Jenny Bristow, Director of Growth Marissa Gurrister, Senior Account Manager Shelby Auer, and Growth & Operations Manager - Practice Division Abby Davis recap the key trends, popular sessions, and main takeaways from The Healthcare Interactive Conference (HCIC) 2025 in Las Vegas. HCIC 2025 was full of energy and innovative content, with a major buzz surrounding Jenny’s Learning Lab covering marketing and ROI tracking tools available within Epic. Several sessions stood out, including the CMO panel that included Stuart Dill from Vanderbilt. He spoke about brand preference, awareness, and consideration, emphasizing that marketers need to position campaigns differently for each phase. The Mount Sinai social media team, including manager Brian Crowley and coordinator Suzy Qiu, presented a highly praised, interactive session titled "The Camera-Ready Physician" that detailed their boot camp method for coaching physicians to create unscripted, organic short-form video content. Vanessa Hill from Beth Israel Lahey Health and Reba Thompson from WG Content shared their story of replatforming 17 websites, which they creatively framed as a "choose your own adventure" for the audience. Another speaker who creatively presented was Kevin Snyder, CMO at Nicklaus Children’s Hospital, who showed up to his Automation Meets Empathy session in a superhero cape.Beyond the sessions, key industry challenges discussed on the conference floor included the complexity of navigating patient privacy and compliance when teams are siloed, and the urgent need for new strategies in content optimization to rank highly in the difficult landscape of SEO, GEO, and zero-click search results.Looking ahead, the biggest takeaway overall from attendees, as noted by Jenny, is that healthcare marketers are being continuously asked to do more with smaller budgets, requiring teams to develop creative solutions and maximize assets as they look ahead to 2026.For those who missed it, Hedy & Hopp’s popular Learning Lab "Epic for Marketers" will be presented as a webinar on November 20.  Connect with Jenny: Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/ Connect with Marissa: Email: marissa.gurrister@hedyandhopp.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marissa-gurrister/  Connect with Shelby: Email: shelby.auer@hedyandhopp.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelby-wanne/  Connect with Abby: Email: abby.davis@hedyandhopp.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adavis513/  Register to attend “Unlocking Epic for Marketers,” a free webinar on November 20 hosted by Jenny: https://hedyandhopp.com/Epicwebinar/ Purchase a hand painted sweatshirt created by our former Artist in Residence Lauren Younge: https://www.laurenyounge.com/store-lauren-younge-art/painted-crewnecks  Follow floral artist Annie Kuhn with Verde Designs: https://www.instagram.com/verdestl/  If you enjoyed this episode, we’d love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others.

    17 min
  5. Navigating Ad Restrictions in Healthcare Marketing

    10/24/2025

    Navigating Ad Restrictions in Healthcare Marketing

    Hedy & Hopp CEO & Founder Jenny Bristow and Director of Digital Activation Lindsey Brown talk about recent changes to paid media restrictions in healthcare marketing (for example, Google now allows limited non-promotional prescription term use) and how healthcare marketers can stay effective as restrictions evolve.Three big hurdles that healthcare marketers need to understand and navigate include Google Ads, Meta Ads, and privacy and HIPAA. Marketers can work around these hurdles by balancing compliance, creativity, and results. Focus paid media messaging around education—not medical claims. Lean in to intent-based keywords and compliant storytelling. In the future, healthcare marketers can anticipate privacy-first platforms with AI-driven targeting, access to less data and a focus on effective creative, and using compliance as a key advantage. As a healthcare marketer, you don’t need to fear restrictions—once you understand the guardrails, you can creatively work within them. Connect with Jenny: Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/ Connect with Lindsey: Email: lindsey.brown@hedyandhopp.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseycbrown/  Further your understanding of what compliance means for healthcare marketing and get certified for it here: https://wearehipaasmart.com/.  If you enjoyed this episode, we’d love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others.

    17 min
  6. SHSMD Connections 2025 Recap

    10/17/2025

    SHSMD Connections 2025 Recap

    Hedy & Hopp CEO & Founder Jenny Bristow, Marketing Manager Brenda Cross, and Director of Growth Marissa Gurrister recap SHSMD Connections 2025, sharing key takeaways and memorable sessions.Brenda highlights the agency's standout conference booth, featuring art prints by Hedy & Hopp’s 2025 Artist in Residence H. Ward Miles, fresh florals by Annie Kuhn with Verde Designs, and custom painted sweatshirts for the team by Lauren Younge.Marissa discusses common challenges in healthcare marketing, like measuring performance and fostering innovation, drawing insights from Tucker Bryant's keynote on the power of erasure poetry. Jenny praises Washington University’s session on integrated data, led by Verna Ehlen and Molly Bailey, for its practical approach. Brenda's favorite session "Beyond the Campaign Launch: Why Your Experience IS Your Marketing” emphasized the crucial relationship between marketing, clinical leadership, and operations, stressing that the patient experience dictates your brand. Key strategies included journey mapping and unbiased mystery shopping.The Hedy & Hopp team also led a pre-conference workshop on advanced patient privacy.The overarching theme from SHSMD 2025 was the power in prioritization, focusing on initiatives that truly drive progress for healthcare organizations. Connect with Jenny: Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/ Connect with Brenda: Email: brenda.cross@hedyandhopp.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendaecross/  Connect with Marissa: Email: marissa.gurrister@hedyandhopp.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marissa-gurrister/  Further your understanding of what compliance means for healthcare marketing and get certified for it here: https://wearehipaasmart.com/.  If you enjoyed this episode, we’d love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others.

    15 min
  7. AI Search & Personas: Shaping Your Content Strategy to Meet Patient Needs

    10/03/2025

    AI Search & Personas: Shaping Your Content Strategy to Meet Patient Needs

    Hedy & Hopp CEO & Founder Jenny Bristow, Copywriter and Content Editor Sarah Zajicek, and SEO Marketing Specialist Yenny Rojas discuss AI and personas in healthcare marketing, focusing on AI's impact on search and the importance of writing tailored content for your website. They highlight that with nearly half of all searches now being questions directed at AI, marketers need to optimize content to answer these queries, adapting it for various practice sizes. Key strategies include prioritizing readability for both users and AI by incorporating bulleted summaries, FAQs, and FAQ schemas. Sarah notes that while AI tools can be incredibly useful in the content creation process, human oversight is necessary to ensure that the writing has a natural voice and that the content is medically accurate. Yenny emphasizes the importance of persona-based marketing, where content is customized to specific audiences and formats, facilitating AI's ability to recommend relevant information. Integrating personas into your content can look like including targeted examples, localized details, customer-focused calls to action, and using insights from Google Search Console. Connect with Jenny: Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/ If you enjoyed this episode, we’d love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others.

    19 min
  8. The First Marketing Agency with Epic-Certified Team Members

    09/26/2025

    The First Marketing Agency with Epic-Certified Team Members

    Hedy & Hopp CEO & Founder Jenny Bristow, along with Director of Data & Technology Mark Brandes, Director of Activation Lindsey Brown, and Marketing Analyst Cassie Haxton, discuss Hedy & Hopp’s experience becoming the first marketing agency with team members certified in various Epic marketing and analytics tools. They share opportunities for healthcare marketers to leverage Epic tools in their daily work.Our four-year relationship with Epic led to the opportunity for Hedy & Hopp team members to get certified in various Epic marketing and analytics tools. Epic recognizes the importance of marketers in the patient experience and client demand for certified partners. Marketers can effectively use Epic tools to enhance patient experience and communication strategies, with messaging capabilities that engage both current and prospective patients. Epic offers a wealth of data for demonstrating ROI, tracking patient acquisition, and showing the impact of marketing campaigns. While the platform itself has a visually-outdated interface, its structure and depth is highly sophisticated. Implementing features in Epic is not an easy undertaking, but having an overall understanding of the system has the potential to be extremely valuable to healthcare marketers.If you are interested in learning more about using Epic for your marketing, we are hosting an in-person Learning Lab on Epic and marketing analytics at The Healthcare Interactive Conference (HCIC), with registration opening soon. We are also offering a free virtual session covering the same content from HCIC shortly after the conference. Sign up at HedyandHopp.com/EpicWebinar. Connect with Jenny: Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/ If you enjoyed this episode, we’d love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others.

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Healthcare marketing is always evolving, and We Are, Marketing Happy is here to help you make sense of it. Hosted by Jenny Bristow, CEO and founder of the healthcare marketing agency Hedy & Hopp, this award-winning podcast explores the latest shifts, challenges, and innovations shaping the industry today. Follow along, share with your team, and let us know what topics you’d like us to explore next. Learn more about Hedy & Hopp at www.hedyandhopp.com.

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