Enneagram with JB: A Podcast About Enneagram Personalities

Jackie Brewster

Certified Enneagram coach Jackie Brewster offers a fun, fresh approach to learning more about the Enneagram, while encouraging listeners to grow in empathy and understanding with both themselves and the people around them.

  1. 4d ago

    When Being Needed Replaces Being Known (with Therapist Emily Zeller)

    What happens when your desire to love and connect with others slowly turns into a need to be indispensable? In this episode of Enneagram with JB, I sit down with therapist and Enneagram Two Emily Zeller for an honest conversation about Enneagram subtypes—and specifically what it feels like to experience the world as a Sexual, or one-to-one, Two. Emily shares how discovering her subtype helped her understand the intensity she had always felt in relationships, her tendency to overgive, and the unconscious belief underneath it all: If I can make myself indispensable, maybe I won't be left. We talk about why the Sexual subtype isn't simply about sex, but about chemistry, intensity, attraction, connection, and the desire to be deeply known and chosen. Emily also gives us an incredibly powerful description of the struggle underneath the Sexual Two pattern: sacrificing being known for being needed. Throughout our conversation, we explore what happens when Twos overgive without recognizing their own needs, why resentment and withdrawal can become warning signs, and how the passion of pride can show up not only as making yourself important—but also as shrinking yourself because you're afraid of being “too much.” We also talk about the body. What happens physically when you've spent so much time focused on everyone else that you've stopped noticing yourself? Emily shares how therapy, movement, meditation, intentional alone time, and reconnecting with the body have helped her become more aware of what she actually needs. And ultimately, this conversation comes back to something I love about the Enneagram: awareness gives us choice. The goal isn't to get rid of our personality or shame ourselves for the strategies that once helped us feel safe and connected. It's to recognize when those old patterns are running the show so we have the freedom to choose something different. In this episode, we talk about: The three Enneagram instincts: Self-Preservation, Social, and Sexual/one-to-one Why subtype can dramatically change how an Enneagram type presents What it's actually like to be a Sexual Two The difference between wanting to be liked and needing to be chosen Attraction and “seduction” beyond sexuality Overgiving, hidden expectations, and resentment The Sexual Two's desire to become indispensable Why Sexual-dominant women are sometimes mistyped as Eights Pride in Type Two—and why it can look like both inflation and shrinking The difference between being needed and being truly known How Type Two patterns show up in the body Learning to recognize your needs before reaching exhaustion Movement, stillness, faith, and practices that bring us back to ourselves How awareness creates greater freedom and choice One of my favorite reminders from this conversation is that our patterns aren't random. They developed for a reason. At one point, they helped us navigate relationships, get our needs met, or experience connection. But what worked then may not be what we need now. Growth begins when we can slow down long enough to notice what's happening underneath the behavior—and realize we have a choice. Connect with Emily Emily Zeller is a therapist and Enneagram consultant who works with couples, women in the postpartum season, and individuals wanting to better understand themselves and their relationships through the Enneagram. You can find Emily on Instagram and Facebook at @IEmilyZeller and learn more about her Enneagram consulting work at EmilyZeller.com. Emily provides therapy to clients located in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Illinois and offers Enneagram consulting beyond those states. Connect with Jackie Follow Enneagram with JB for more conversations about the Enneagram, relationships, psychology, personal growth, and becoming more aware of the patterns that shape the way we live and love.

  2. Jul 15

    Understanding the Intersection of the Enneagram and Emotional Intelligence (with Scott Allender)

    Most of us assume that if we understand ourselves, change will naturally follow. But that's rarely how growth works. You can know your Enneagram type, recognize your patterns, understand your childhood experiences, and still find yourself reacting the same way in your relationships. Why? Because self-awareness is only the beginning. In this conversation, I sit down with emotional intelligence coach and author Scott Allender to explore the intersection of the Enneagram, emotional intelligence, and emotional healing. Together we discuss why personality isn't the destination—it's the doorway. You'll discover why awareness alone doesn't create transformation, how our bodies and emotions shape the way we experience the world, and why curiosity is one of the most important tools for lasting growth. Reflection Questions What pattern do you notice yourself repeating most often?What might that pattern have originally been trying to protect?What story have you been believing about yourself?Where do you notice emotions showing up in your body?What would change if you responded to yourself with curiosity instead of judgment?If this conversation encouraged you, share it with someone who is ready to move beyond simply knowing themselves and begin experiencing real transformation. Be sure to subscribe to Enneagram with JB for weekly conversations that integrate the Enneagram, psychology, emotional health, and faith to help you understand yourself, strengthen your relationships, and continue the lifelong journey of becoming who you were created to be.

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Certified Enneagram coach Jackie Brewster offers a fun, fresh approach to learning more about the Enneagram, while encouraging listeners to grow in empathy and understanding with both themselves and the people around them.

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