Unreal Results for Physical Therapists and Athletic Trainers

Anna Hartman
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The Unreal Results podcast helps physical therapists and certified athletic trainers feel confident and get better outcomes for their clients by teaching about the influence of the viscera organs and the nervous system on human movement, pain, and injury. Explore how a visceral and neural-based lens of view can provide a new perspective to performance-based physical therapy, athletic training, and sports medicine.

  1. 2D AGO ·  BONUS

    Delivering Results That Stand Out- Interview with LTAP® Level 1 Alumnus, Nicole Bulow

    In this bonus episode of the Unreal Results Podcast, Anna sits down with LTAP® Level 1 alum Nicole Bulow, a physical therapist specializing in sports medicine and pelvic health. Nicole shares her journey integrating LTAP® into her clinical practice and how it became the catalyst not only for improving patient outcomes but also for successfully rebuilding her business from scratch after relocating to a new town simply by delivering results that stand out in an industry often accustomed to slow or inconsistent progress. With 15+ years of experience and a strong background in manual therapy and pelvic health, Nicole was already a skilled clinician. But like many, she found herself hitting plateaus, repeating the same treatments, chasing symptoms, and knowing there was something deeper she was missing. This conversation explores what happens when you finally have a system that shows you where to start. They dive into:  Why repeated treatments (like ankle mobility or soft tissue work) often signal you’re missing the root cause  How LTAP® improves efficiency and helps clinicians get results faster  The connection between protective patterns, the nervous system, and chronic dysfunction  Integrating pelvic health, sports medicine, and whole-organism assessment  Why patients are willing to travel and pay when results actually stick  Using LTAP® to identify when something deeper or medical is going on  How better outcomes directly translate to business growth and sustainability Resources & Links Learn more about LTAP® Level 1 (Spring Cohort) Connect with Nicole Bulow Learn the assessment protocol that shows you exactly where to start treatment. Get better outcomes in fewer sessions (often less than 3–5). Join the Spring 2026 cohort Stop guessing. Stop chasing symptoms. The LTAP® is the catalyst that shifts you from a traditional biomechanical model to a whole-organism paradigm,  integrating the nervous system and viscera into every plan of care. ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    40 min

  2. 3D AGO ·  BONUS

    From “figuring it out” to letting the body lead- LTAP® Level 1 alumni interview with Jillian Egan

    You don’t need more tools. You need a way to know when and where to use them. And when you finally stop trying to figure it all out… That’s when everything starts to click. In this bonus episode of the Unreal Results Podcast, Anna sits down with LTAP® Level 1 alum Jillian Egan, a massage therapist, Pilates instructor, and movement practitioner based in Los Angeles. Jillian shares her evolution from traditional massage therapy into a more integrated, whole-organism approach, and how discovering LTAP® completely shifted how she assesses, treats, and understands the human body. With a background in dance, movement, and manual therapy, she had already built a strong foundation but was still missing a clear system to guide where to start treatment and why. This conversation explores what happens when you stop chasing symptoms and start listening to the body. They dive into: - Why having more techniques isn’t the problem and what actually is - How LTAP® gave Jillian a clear, repeatable assessment to guide treatment - Integrating the nervous system and viscera into manual therapy and movement work - The shift from “figuring it out” to letting the body lead -Why results should change quickly—and what it means when they don’t - Using clinical patterns to identify when something deeper (or medical) is going on - How this work improves both patient outcomes and practitioner sustainability Jillian also shares powerful clinical examples—from resolving shoulder pain through visceral work to identifying cases that required medical referral—highlighting how this approach leads to both better results and better decision-making. Beyond technique, this episode speaks to something deeper: the personal shift that happens when you let go of needing to be the expert and instead become someone who truly listens. Resources & Links Learn more about LTAP® Level 1 (Spring Cohort) Connect with Jillian Egan  Learn the assessment protocol that shows you exactly where to start treatment. Get better outcomes in fewer sessions (often less than 3–5). Join the Spring 2026 cohort Stop guessing. Stop chasing symptoms. The LTAP® is the catalyst that shifts you from a traditional biomechanical model to a whole-organism paradigm,  integrating the nervous system and viscera into every plan of care. ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    40 min

  3. 3D AGO ·  BONUS

    A system that clearly shows you where to start: An Interview with LTAP® Level 1 alumnus Storm Baynes-Ryan

    In this bonus episode of the Unreal Results Podcast, Anna sits down with LTAP® Level 1 alum Storm Baynes-Ryan, a physiotherapist based in rural New Zealand. This conversation offers a real-world look at what it means to practice from a whole-organism lens, especially in complex, resource-limited environments. Storm shares how she integrates the LTAP® (Locator Test Assessment Protocol®) across multiple settings, from community care and medical centers to her own in-person and online practice. Despite a full life running a farm, raising four children, and managing multiple jobs, she breaks down how she implemented the LTAP® in a way that was both realistic and transformative. They dive into:  How LTAP® changed Storm’s ability to quickly identify where to start treatment  Applying a whole-organism approach across diverse patient populations  Using LTAP® effectively in both in-person and virtual care  Why results should change quickly and what it means when they don’t  How integrating the nervous system and viscera creates more consistent, lasting outcomes  The role of pattern recognition, clinical reasoning, and trusting the body’s signals This episode is especially valuable for clinicians who feel like something is missing in their current model, those getting decent results, but not consistent ones. It’s a grounded, honest conversation about clinical growth, navigating uncertainty, and what becomes possible when you truly learn how to listen to the body. Resources & Links  Learn more about LTAP® Level 1 (Spring Cohort)  Connect with Storm Baynes-Ryan  Previous episode featuring Storm Learn the assessment protocol that shows you exactly where to start treatment. Get better outcomes in fewer sessions (often less than 3–5). Join the Spring 2026 cohort Stop guessing. Stop chasing symptoms. The LTAP® is the catalyst that shifts you from a traditional biomechanical model to a whole-organism paradigm,  integrating the nervous system and viscera into every plan of care. ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    41 min
  4. The Repetition Habit Behind Every Great Clinician

    4D AGO

    The Repetition Habit Behind Every Great Clinician

    In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I reflect on a theme that keeps showing up across my teaching, my Revitalized mentorship, and my own clinical work: repetition and review. I share how teaching the same concepts over and over has sharpened my clarity, why seasoned clinicians often don’t need more techniques, and how refining your assessment lens changes everything about your results. In This Episode, You’ll Hear: Why assessment clarity matters more than adding new treatment toolsHow repetition and review accelerate clinical reasoning and confidenceThe key question to ask when your assessment feels unclearHow to build confidence by refining what you already doIf you’re ready to improve your outcomes by refining, not expanding, your approach, I’d love to have you inside the LTAP® Level 1 course. Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Join the Online Spring LTAP® Level 1 2026 cohort Ep. 2: MovementREV Philosophy and Methodology Ep. 60: LTAP® Core Beliefs Join The MovementRev Newsletter Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses Learn the assessment protocol that shows you exactly where to start treatment. Get better outcomes in fewer sessions (often less than 3–5). Join the Spring 2026 cohort Stop guessing. Stop chasing symptoms. The LTAP® is the catalyst that shifts you from a traditional biomechanical model to a whole-organism paradigm,  integrating the nervous system and viscera into every plan of care. ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    33 min
  5. A Clinical Case Study in Sacral Pain & Index of Suspicion

    MAR 11

    A Clinical Case Study in Sacral Pain & Index of Suspicion

    In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I walk through a recent clinical case of mine involving a Navy SEAL BUD/S candidate who came in with persistent “back pain.” Once he pointed more specifically to the sacrum, the case immediately changed direction and led us down a very different path involving visceral drivers, kidney irritation, and neurovascular patterns. I share how location-specific questioning, structured assessment, and developing a strong index of suspicion can uncover connections between the viscera, nervous system, and musculoskeletal system that are easy to miss. In this episode, you’ll hear: • Why sacral pain should immediately shift your clinical questioning • How kidney and urogenital organ irritation can refer pain to the sacrum and knee • How tools like the LTAP® fit into broader clinical reasoning and assessment • Why asking the right questions can completely change the direction of treatment If you’re a health or movement professional interested in improving your diagnostic thinking and getting better outcomes with complex cases, this episode will help you refine how you assess presentations that don’t follow the usual patterns. Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Ep. 45: The Kidneys - Visceral Connections To Movement Ep. 49: Pain On The Sacrum Ep. 147: Why Expectations Shape Clinical Outcomes Kidney Regen Session Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses Learn the assessment protocol that shows you exactly where to start treatment. Get better outcomes in fewer sessions (often less than 3–5). Join the Spring 2026 cohort Stop guessing. Stop chasing symptoms. The LTAP® is the catalyst that shifts you from a traditional biomechanical model to a whole-organism paradigm,  integrating the nervous system and viscera into every plan of care. ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    35 min
  6. Rethinking the Popliteus in Knee Rehab

    FEB 26

    Rethinking the Popliteus in Knee Rehab

    In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I explore the anatomy and clinical significance of the popliteus — the small, often overlooked muscle that unlocks the knee and why it may be a missing link in lateral knee pain, shin splints, post-surgical inhibition, and chronic joint irritation. I share reflections from my own ACL-deficient knee during an 8 week plyometric intensive and how restoring dynamic confidence changed not just my performance, but my joint symptoms. We’ll also explore how the popliteus interfaces with the fibula, meniscus, joint capsule, and even the SI joint and why treating it in isolation rarely creates lasting change. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why the popliteus is central to unlocking knee flexion in closed-chain movementWhy this muscle becomes hypertonic after injury and why releasing it isn’t enoughHow posterior capsule, fibular motion, and meniscal connections influence knee painPractical ways to combine manual therapy and yielding plyometrics for better outcomesIf you’ve ever wondered why the popliteus keeps “tightening back up,” this episode will help you understand what it’s protecting and how to work with it instead of against it. Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Ep. 8: Unlocking The Fibula Ep. 21: Easily Restore Knee Extension After Injury or Surgery Ep. 25: The Peripheral Heart Ep. 78: Easily Restore Knee Flexion After Injury or Surgery Ep. 79: The Deeper Impact of Plyometrics w/ Matt McInnes Watson Ep. 138: The Link Between Potassium and Shin Splints Squat Warmup Video Tutorial to Improve Knee Flexion Video Book I Mentioned: New Manual Articular Approach: Lower Extremity by Jean-Pierre Barral & Alain Croibier Sign Up For A Barral Institute Course (Tell them Anna Hartman sent you!) Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses Learn the assessment protocol that shows you exactly where to start treatment. Get better outcomes in fewer sessions (often less than 3–5). Join the Spring 2026 cohort Stop guessing. Stop chasing symptoms. The LTAP® is the catalyst that shifts you from a traditional biomechanical model to a whole-organism paradigm,  integrating the nervous system and viscera into every plan of care. ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    51 min
  7. The Clinical Power of the Spiral Line

    FEB 18

    The Clinical Power of the Spiral Line

    In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I discuss the spiral fascial line not as something to memorize, but as a lens to better understand human movement and efficiency. You’ll hear how the spiral line influenced the name MovementREV, how it shows up repeatedly in LTAP® findings, and why freeing up rotation can transform gait, balance, and efficiency. In this episode, you’ll hear: What the spiral line actually connects and why it matters clinicallyHow the spiral line supports gait and whole-body efficiencyHow pelvic floor and diaphragm stiffness limit spiral expressionI hope this episode helps you recognize the spiral line and rotation as a foundational movement pattern, one that can clarify recurring clinical findings and elevate your outcomes with greater precision. Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Episode 8: Unlocking The Fibula Episode 26: Sartorius B.I.G. Episode 44: Using Weight Shifting To Improve Movement Patterns Episode 73: The Sartorius: It's More Powerful Than You Think Episode 145: 5 Treatment Areas That Consistently Improve Outcomes Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses Learn the assessment protocol that shows you exactly where to start treatment. Get better outcomes in fewer sessions (often less than 3–5). Join the Spring 2026 cohort Stop guessing. Stop chasing symptoms. The LTAP® is the catalyst that shifts you from a traditional biomechanical model to a whole-organism paradigm,  integrating the nervous system and viscera into every plan of care. ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    30 min
  8. Why Expectations Shape Clinical Outcomes

    FEB 12

    Why Expectations Shape Clinical Outcomes

    In this episode of the Unreal Results podcast, I share a candid look at expectations in clinical practice, especially after learning a new framework like the LTAP®. I break down why early wins can create unrealistic internal pressure, how I think about my 1-3 session benchmark, and why managing patient expectations is often the missing piece in overcoming imposter syndrome. I also walk through a real case example of a Navy SEAL BUD/S candidate to show how I decide when to adjust the plan, refer out, or stay the course. In this episode, you’ll hear: What “guaranteeing results” really means and what it doesn’tWhy mismatching assessment precision with treatment precision can worsen outcomesHow expectations (yours vs. your patient’s) shape confidence and resultsThe six questions that dramatically improve clarity, buy-in, and clinical directionIf you’re a clinician who wants better results without burning yourself out or second-guessing every session, this episode will sharpen your reasoning and steady your confidence. Resources & Links Mentioned In This Episode: Ep. 119: Guaranteeing Results... Until You Can't Ep. 125: You're Already Treating The Viscera... You Just Don't Know It Ep. 126: How Many Sessions Do Clients Really Need? Ep. 131: Raising The Bar On Patient Outcomes Learn the LTAP® In-Person in one of my upcoming courses Learn the assessment protocol that shows you exactly where to start treatment. Get better outcomes in fewer sessions (often less than 3–5). Join the Spring 2026 cohort Stop guessing. Stop chasing symptoms. The LTAP® is the catalyst that shifts you from a traditional biomechanical model to a whole-organism paradigm,  integrating the nervous system and viscera into every plan of care. ================================================= Watch the podcast on YouTube and subscribe! Join the MovementREV email list to stay up to date on the Unreal Results Podcast and MovementREV education. Be social and follow me: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube

    47 min
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The Unreal Results podcast helps physical therapists and certified athletic trainers feel confident and get better outcomes for their clients by teaching about the influence of the viscera organs and the nervous system on human movement, pain, and injury. Explore how a visceral and neural-based lens of view can provide a new perspective to performance-based physical therapy, athletic training, and sports medicine.

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