Intuitive Self: IFS + Intuition + Spirituality with Natalie Deering

Natalie Deering
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Intuitive Self: IFS + Intuition + Spirituality with Natalie Deering is a podcast exploring the intersection of Internal Family Systems, intuitive wisdom, and spiritual awakening. Through soulful conversations with therapists, mystics, healers, and consciousness explorers, Natalie invites listeners into a deeper relationship with their inner world. Together, we explore parts work, embodied intuition, energetic awareness, nonlinear time, and the sacred nature of Self-energy. If you’re ready to meet yourself more fully—mind, body, and spirit—this podcast is your home.

  1. When Good Moms Feel Bad: Befriending the Parts of Motherhood, with Jessica Tomich Sorci

    FEB 9

    When Good Moms Feel Bad: Befriending the Parts of Motherhood, with Jessica Tomich Sorci

    In this powerful and deeply validating conversation, I sit down with Jessica Tomich Sorci, LMFT, Level 3 Certified IFS Therapist and creator of the Mom Parts Method, to talk about something so many mothers silently carry: Mom parts. The anxious ones. The angry ones. The overwhelmed ones. The “I should be better at this” ones. And the truth that often feels radical: There are no bad mom parts. Jessica brings her expertise in Internal Family Systems and perinatal mental health to help us understand how motherhood activates powerful manager and firefighter parts—and how IFS offers a compassionate path forward. We Discuss: What “mom parts” are and why they make so much sense Common manager mom parts  Common firefighter mom parts  Why guilt and shame keep moms blended with their parts How IFS helps mothers unblend and move toward compassion instead of self-criticism The cultural burdens of motherhood and the impossible expectations placed on women How vulnerable parts can re-emerge as our children reach different developmental stages The concerning decline in maternal mental health—and why this isn’t about individual failure The “selfish vs. selfless” burden so many mothers carry internally Jessica’s Mom Part Cards for self-reflection and how to use them in daily life Her groundbreaking new book, When Good Moms Feel Bad About Jessica Tomich Sorci: Jessica Tomich Sorci, LMFT, is a Level 3 Certified IFS Therapist, IFSI Approved Clinical Consultant, Certified Perinatal Mental Health therapist, and creator of the Mom Parts Method. She has spent over 15 years helping mothers understand and befriend their parts through compassionate, accessible IFS language. Jessica trains clinicians through her Mothercentered certification program and supports moms through her membership community. Her new book When Good Moms Feel Bad: An Empowering Guide for Transforming Guilt, Anxiety and Anger into Compassion, Confidence and Connectedness is a transformative resource for mothers navigating guilt, anxiety, and anger. Connect with Jessica: Learn more: www.momparts.com Website: jessicasorci.com Instagram: @jessicatomichsorci Email: https://www.jessicatomichsorci.com/when-good-moms-feel-bad For Listeners: If you are a mother who has ever thought: “Why am I reacting like this?” “Why do I feel so much guilt?” “What’s wrong with me?” This episode is for you. And for therapists supporting mothers, this conversation offers language, compassion, and tools that can profoundly shift your work. __________________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

    59 min
  2. IFS Therapy for Gay and Queer Men: A Companion for After Coming Out, with Max Littman

    JAN 26

    IFS Therapy for Gay and Queer Men: A Companion for After Coming Out, with Max Littman

    In this episode, I’m joined by IFS therapist, consultant, and author Max Littman, LCSW, for a deeply meaningful conversation about his groundbreaking new book: Internal Family Systems Therapy for Gay and Queer Men: A Companion for After Coming Out Max’s work centers the lived experiences of gay and queer men through an Internal Family Systems lens, offering a compassionate, culturally attuned resource for healing after the coming out process—when many parts, burdens, and relational dynamics can become activated in new ways. This episode is filled with tenderness, truth, and the powerful reminder that taking up space creates space—and that vulnerability can become an invitation for collective healing.   We Discuss: Why Max wrote a companion for AFTER coming out, rather than before The emotional and relational layers that can emerge in the years following coming out How cultural burdens within gay and queer communities can shape internal parts and protective strategies The importance of representation, visibility, and storytelling as a form of collective unburdening Max’s personal experience navigating identity, attachment, and healing after coming out The powerful role of media and relational narratives, including reflections on Heated Rivalry and the impact of seeing queer struggle and love portrayed honestly An IFS-informed practice "The Pool Party" for meeting and understanding different parts Max’s heartfelt message to gay and queer men seeking deeper connection, healing, and wholeness Max reminds us that healing doesn’t stop once someone comes out. In many ways, it’s only the beginning of a deeper internal journey—one that includes meeting the parts shaped by shame, longing, belonging, protection, and cultural expectation. This conversation offers a supportive and empowering path toward Self-leadership, authenticity, and relational healing.   About Max Littman: Max Littman, LCSW, is an IFS therapist, consultant, and writer based in the San Francisco Bay Area. His work focuses on attunement, attachment, cultural burdens, and relational and neurobiological understandings of trauma. He specializes in working with gay and queer men and provides mentorship to therapists in private practice. Max has served as a Program Assistant for IFS Level 1 and Somatic IFS Step 2 trainings. He is also the author of a widely read IFS blog exploring themes such as the weaponization of Self, the practice of attunement, and the importance of normalizing therapeutic missteps. His new book is the first IFS book to center gay and queer men: Internal Family Systems Therapy for Gay and Queer Men: A Companion for After Coming Out   Links & Resources: Max’s Website: https://maxlittman.com/ Order the Book: https://a.co/d/6WA6iIO   Final Message: If you are a gay or queer man navigating identity, relationships, belonging, or the inner world that unfolds after coming out—this episode and Max’s book offer a compassionate companion for the journey. And for therapists, allies, and loved ones who want to better understand and support the gay and queer experience, this conversation is a powerful reminder of the importance of culturally attuned, representation-centered healing spaces.   _____________________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

    1h 13m
  3. Clairvoyance, Intuition, and IFS: A Conversation with Catherine Cope

    12/31/2025

    Clairvoyance, Intuition, and IFS: A Conversation with Catherine Cope

    In today’s intuitive conversation, I sit down with my friend and fellow IFS therapist Catherine Cope, a clinician and clairvoyant who beautifully bridges Internal Family Systems, somatic awareness, intuitive development, and spiritual presence. Catherine and I first met while serving as program assistants in an IFS Level 1 training, where a moment of vulnerability opened a doorway between us: I shared with the group that I’m clairvoyant… and Catherine shared that she is too. From there, an entire inner world of resonance opened. Together, we explore our early experiences with intuition and the spiritual realms, the parts of us that feared being seen—and being seen seeing—and how both of us gradually learned to trust our inner vision. Catherine also shares about her four years at the Berkeley Psychic Institute, where she trained in clairvoyance, grounding practices, energetic boundaries, and the art of inhabiting the human body as a conscious, intuitive being. This episode moves through the ways intuition naturally supports IFS therapy, how to fine-tune your inner instrument, and how to invite guidance—internal and spiritual—into the healing process. We also talk about the courage it takes to let intuitive gifts come forward, especially when parts hold fear, skepticism, or concern. This is a grounded, expansive conversation about intuition, psychic development, parts work, and learning to trust the deeper knowing inside each of us.   Topics We Cover Early life experiences sensing the spiritual realm and intuitive information Parts that feared being seen and being seen seeing Catherine’s four years of clairvoyant training at the Berkeley Psychic Institute Grounding cords, visualization, and why the body believes the pictures we see Tools for living fully in the human body and claiming it as your own Closing the eyes during IFS sessions to deepen connection, centering, and clarity What clairvoyance is—and a discussion of the other clairs Why everyone has intuitive access (and which clairs you naturally tune into) Understanding intuition as an instrument each of us tunes differently How to strengthen intuition through IFS, meditation, grounding, and embodiment Using intuitive information ethically and skillfully in IFS work Discerning what belongs to the client vs. what belongs to you Asking internal and external guides for support in session Addressing Protector Parts who fear intuition or visibility   About Catherine Cope, LCMHC Catherine Cope is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in New York and North Carolina with over 20 years of experience supporting individuals on their healing journeys. She is a Certified Internal Family Systems Therapist, an IFS Approved Clinical Consultant, a Certified EMDR Therapist, and Hakomi-trained, integrating somatic, trauma-informed, and mindfulness-based approaches into her work. Catherine’s clinical training is complemented by decades of contemplative and intuitive study. She spent four years at the Berkeley Psychic Institute and has worked for more than 30 years with intuitive counselor Christen McCormack, whose teachings continue to shape her meditative and intuitive practices. She is also married and the mother of two rapidly growing children, whose presence brings both unpredictability and deep love into her daily life—further enriching her understanding of human complexity and connection. Catherine is a grounded, attuned, and deeply intuitive therapist and guide.   Connect with Catherine Website: www.catherinecope.com IFS Institute: https://ifs-institute.com/about-us Hakomi Institute: https://hakomiinstitute.com/ Berkeley Psychic Institute: https://www.berkeleypsychic.com/ Christen McCormack: https://www.christenmccormack.com/   ______________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

    1h 10m
  4. Beyond the Body: Danielle Carron on Her Near Death Experience and the Timeless Self

    11/25/2025

    Beyond the Body: Danielle Carron on Her Near Death Experience and the Timeless Self

    In today’s expansive conversation, I sit down with Danielle Carron, a therapist, spiritual guide, and mystic who bridges Internal Family Systems (IFS), Somatic Experiencing, meditation, and consciousness work. Danielle and I first met at the IFS conference and immediately bonded over our shared love of quantum physics, the mystery of time, and the sacred nature of healing. At 19 years old, Danielle survived a traumatic rock-climbing accident that initiated a profound Near Death Experience (NDE)—one that revealed timelessness, unconditional love, and the truth of who she really is beyond fear, identity, and the limits of the body. That experience became the foundation of her life’s mission: bringing the sacred into healing and helping others awaken through their pain. This episode explores how meditation can access the same expansive, transcendent states of consciousness Danielle touched in her NDE—states of nonlinear time, eternal connection, and pure Self-energy. We explore what becomes possible when parts soften back and give us space to experience our higher consciousness directly. This is a deep, beautiful conversation that bends time itself.   Topics We Cover How we met at the conference + shared love of quantum physics and time Danielle’s Near Death Experience at age 19 and how it transformed her life Linear vs. nonlinear time and why it matters for healing Meditation as a pathway to expansive, transcendent states of Self The timeless nature of Self and accessing Divine unconditional love Parts that fear transcendence and how to support them Letting go of survival-driven linear time The theme of unconditional love in NDEs and Self-energy Discussion of Danielle’s 45-minute meditation for nonlinear time My personal experience practicing her meditation Benefits of transcendent states + how present work impacts the past Recommendations for accessing higher consciousness through meditation “Who am I when my parts give me space?” About Danielle Carron, MS, MA, SEP, LPC Danielle has been working with clients in private practice for over 17 years. At age 19, she lived through a rock-climbing fall and a profound Near Death Experience that changed everything. It revealed her true identity beyond fear, beyond the body, and beyond linear time. Since then, Danielle has devoted her life to bridging psychology, embodiment, meditation, and the sacred. Her work integrates Internal Family Systems, Somatic Experiencing, spiritual practice, and consciousness studies. She guides clients into their wholeness—mind, body, and soul. She is a therapist, mystic, teacher, and companion for the full human experience.   Connect with Danielle Website: daniellecarron.com Contact: https://daniellecarron.com/contact/ Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@daniellep.carronlpc3706   __________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

    1h 1m
  5. No Bad Puppets: Parts Work, Play, and IFS with Mark Saltzman

    10/29/2025

    No Bad Puppets: Parts Work, Play, and IFS with Mark Saltzman

    What happens when the healing world of Internal Family Systems meets the imaginative art of puppetry? In this episode, I sit down with Mark Saltzman, LMP — a self-proclaimed puppet nerd, bodyworker, grief educator, and IFS practitioner — to explore how puppets can bring our inner parts to life in the therapy room and beyond. Mark and I chat about the serendipitous way we met at the IFS Conference, and how puppetry became a playful yet powerful tool for accessing the body’s wisdom and deep emotional truth.   We talk about: - The benefits of using puppets to externalize and connect with parts - How embodiment and play foster safety and Self-energy - Why there are no bad puppets (or parts!) - Using puppets for direct access, exile work, and legacy burdens - How you can start using puppets on your own for part connection This episode is equal parts (pun intended) creative, curious, and compassionate — reminding us that healing doesn’t have to be so serious all the time. Sometimes, play opens the deepest doors.   About Mark Saltzman, LMP: Mark Saltzman is a Licensed Massage Practitioner with over 30 years of experience, trained at Bastyr University’s Bellevue Massage School. His work blends therapeutic bodywork, somatic IFS, and creative expression to help clients reconnect with their inner world through the body. A Level 2 IFS practitioner and certified Grief Educator, Mark’s approach integrates touch, presence, and imagination — guiding clients to meet their parts with curiosity and compassion. He’s also the founder of Kiwuppet Studios, where he designs and performs puppets that bring emotional worlds to life.   Connect with Mark: Email: mark@kiwuppet.com | mark@sotetherapies.com Websites: www.kiwuppet.com | www.sotetherapies.com   _____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

    1 hr
  6. IFS Conference Reflections (and Celebration of 100th episode) with Tammy Sollenberger

    10/06/2025

    IFS Conference Reflections (and Celebration of 100th episode) with Tammy Sollenberger

    Fresh from the 2025 IFS Conference and in celebration of the podcast's 100th episode, I sit down with my friend and fellow IFS enthusiast, Tammy Sollenberger, for a lively and heartfelt debrief. In true synchronicity, we somehow kept signing up for the same seminars—without ever comparing notes beforehand. We talk about our parts, our paths, and maybe a touch of destiny. Tammy opens up about what it’s like to be an “IFS celebrity” (yes, we said it!) and the part of her that found it difficult to fully surrender as a participant in sessions while being so publicly known in the community. I share about my socially anxious parts and how they showed up throughout the conference, and together we explore how our systems reacted to the intensity, the beauty, and the vulnerability of being surrounded by hundreds of other parts and protectors in one big IFS field. I also share some clairvoyant messages that came through for both of us — intuitive nudges about healing, alignment, and the unexpected ways our friendship continues to unfold inside and outside the IFS community. This episode is a blend of reflection, laughter, emotional honesty, and gentle self-discovery — just what you’d expect from two friends who speak IFS fluently and love exploring the edges between psychology and soul.   What We Talk About How we kept accidentally attending all the same IFS conference seminars Tammy’s experience of being an “IFS celebrity” and the protector that kept her from full vulnerability as a participant My socially anxious parts and how they showed up in crowded conference spaces The parts of us that got activated during the conference — and how we worked with them Our individual experiences as presenters Tammy’s real-time vulnerability: sharing about her romantic breakup in her presentation and how her system responded Clairvoyant messages and intuitive insights that came through for both of us Takeaways, integration, and how the IFS model continues to deepen our friendships and inner awareness   About Tammy Sollenberger Tammy Sollenberger is an author, podcaster, and psychotherapist. She’s a Certified IFS Therapist and Consultant who loves helping people new to IFS discover their Authentic Self. Tammy co-authored a chapter on the Enneagram and IFS with Joan Ryan in the book Altogether Us: Integrating the IFS Model with Key Modalities, Communities, and Trends. She’s also the author of The One Inside: Thirty Days to Your Authentic Self, and the host and producer of the popular weekly podcast, “The One Inside.”   Tammy has a part who always wishes she were reading on a sunny beach ☀️ Learn more about her work at tammysollenberger.com   ____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

    52 min
  7. Befriending the Inner Critic with IFS - A Conversation with Chris Burris

    09/25/2025

    Befriending the Inner Critic with IFS - A Conversation with Chris Burris

    In this episode, I sit down with one of my IFS mentors Chris Burris, LMFT, Senior Lead Trainer for the Internal Family Systems (IFS) Institute, to explore one of the most challenging and misunderstood aspects of our inner world: the inner critic. Chris shares his personal journey with IFS and how the model offers a radical permission to approach ourselves—and our parts—with more love, kindness, and curiosity. Together, we discuss: Why people are more than the behavior of their parts The nature of inner critic parts and why pushing them away doesn’t work How cultural messages often teach us to fight or silence the inner critic, rather than befriend it Common “suck points” when working with critics in therapy The role of legacy burdens in shaping our inner critics What it means to carry the critical energy of others inside us The importance of following intuition in the healing process Practical exercises to begin befriending your inner critic on your own This conversation is both grounding and liberating, offering a compassionate reframe for anyone who struggles with self-judgment or harsh inner voices.   About Chris Burris: Chris Burris, M.Ed., LCMHCS, LMFT (he/him), is a Senior Lead Trainer for the Internal Family Systems Institute, providing Level II and III trainings worldwide. He has been an IFS Therapist since 1999 and a practicing psychotherapist since 1987. With a background in marriage and family therapy and a mind-body approach, Chris has worked extensively with individuals, couples, families, and groups. He is the author of Creating Healing Circles: Using the Internal Family Systems Model in Facilitating Groups, and has been leading experiential group trainings since 2003 on topics such as Self-leadership, men’s work, rites of passage, sacred activism, healthy relationships, and performance enhancement. Chris has also trained in nature-based models through the Animus Valley Institute, School of Lost Borders, The Foundation for Shamanic Studies, and The Center for Conscious Eldering.   Resources: Internal Family Systems Institute: burriscounseling.com   ___________________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

    1h 3m
  8. Embodying Self-Energy with Jenny Hayo

    08/18/2025

    Embodying Self-Energy with Jenny Hayo

    My guest today is Jenny Hayo (she/her)—teacher, guide, and practitioner of wisdom traditions for over 25 years—to explore the living, breathing experience of Self-energy and how it shapes our inner and outer worlds.   Together, we dive into: What it means to embody Self-energy instead of holding it as just an idea. The many ways people describe Self-energy, and how language can both help and limit us. A playful, unexpected moment when an otter appeared, bringing laughter into our conversation. What we are actually embodying when we talk about “being in Self.” The practice of interoception—tuning into the body’s signals and sensations. The difference between listening to the body and having an agenda for it. How Self can be both a deeply spiritual and beautifully ordinary experience. Ways to discover what your unique Self-energy feels like. The heart as a powerful portal into Self-energy. A simple practice Jenny shares for cultivating embodiment and accessing Self-energy in daily life. __________________________ About Jenny Hayo Jenny Hayo has practiced and taught in the wisdom traditions for over 25 years. She synthesizes her decades of consciousness studies, meditation, and embodiment-centered practices to support students along the path of awakening. Her work is informed by Hindu philosophy, classical yoga, tantric Buddhism, and various somatic modalities. Jenny is certified in Hakomi, Internal Family Systems (IFS), and as a Yoga Therapist. Her understanding of the subtle body—and the importance of our relationship with it—lies at the heart of her work. Jenny teaches public workshops, trainings, retreats, and offers individual coaching for students on the spiritual journey. She is deeply committed to creating a world of wakefulness and liberation for all. Connect with Jenny Hayo: 📞 Phone: 206.931.8992 📧 Email: jenny@jennyhayo.com 🌐 Website: www.jennyhayo.com   Tune in and join us as we explore how to embody Self-energy—not as a concept, but as a lived, heart-centered experience! __________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below   Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact  Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________   Donate to the podcast Here!    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100!  Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information.  Thank you for the support!    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*

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Intuitive Self: IFS + Intuition + Spirituality with Natalie Deering is a podcast exploring the intersection of Internal Family Systems, intuitive wisdom, and spiritual awakening. Through soulful conversations with therapists, mystics, healers, and consciousness explorers, Natalie invites listeners into a deeper relationship with their inner world. Together, we explore parts work, embodied intuition, energetic awareness, nonlinear time, and the sacred nature of Self-energy. If you’re ready to meet yourself more fully—mind, body, and spirit—this podcast is your home.

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