According To B

Bokang Lehlokoe
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According to B is your go-to podcast for real talk with women who are ditching the rulebook and doing life their way. Hosted by Bokang Lehlokoe, it’s all about the messy middles, quiet wins, and bold moves behind the scenes. We’re not here for highlight reels - we’re here for who you’re becoming. Expect raw convos, big laughs, deep feels, and a reminder that living boldly beats living perfectly, every single time.

  1. Sep 6

    The First Woman in My Bloodline to Break the Blueprint: Zithobe Macheli on Career, Money & Love

    What if becoming the person who gets to live your dream life starts long before the dream actually arrives? Zithobe Macheli has transformed more than one area of her life-from dropping out of university to betting on herself as a content creator, healing her relationship with her skin and body, building her confidence, and ultimately creating a life that once existed only in her imagination. This week, she pulls up a chair at the A2B Café to talk about the inner work behind the outer transformation. We get into self-concept, journalling, shadow work, learning to see yourself differently, taking inspired action and what it really means to become the kind of person capable of building the life you want. Because sometimes the biggest glow-up isn't the life changing around you-it's the person you become along the way. 🥂 This episode of According to B is powered by Bernini. ✰ TIMESTAMPS✰ 00:00- Coming up 01:46- Intro  04:27- Bokang introduces Zithobe to A2B  05:42- Game: The starter- for the plot 16:40- The main: The conversation 16:55- Zithobe’s fondest memory that indicated she would become the creative she is today 19:29- The significance of the support Zithobe received from her parents  21:28- Zithobe on being the first woman in her bloodline to pursue creativity 22:49- Zithobe’s university journey 27:13- What happened when Zithobe decided to leave university 32:29- Zithobe on reading back her 2020 journals  36:09- How Zithobe closed the gap between where she was vs where she is now 38:59- How Zithobe was able to evolve beyond being a beauty creator 40:12- The biggest difference between the person who wrote in the journals vs the person living in it 41:44- Being the first woman in Zithobe’s lineage to build a 7 figure business 43:25- Some of the other work Zithobe does 45:31- What Zithobe has had to learn the hard way in business 48:12- Zithobe’s relationship with money 51:41- Zithobe on what was expected of her when it comes to love 56:18- The traditional things vs the non-traditional ones Zithobe believes in 59:06- Zithobe’s perspective on whether she wants marriage or not 01:00:56- Zithobe’s ideal kind of love 01:04:52- What Zithobe hopes future generations will continue to inherit 01:06:51- Dessert: Zithobe recieves her Bernini bag  01:07:26- Outro ✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰ Bokang ➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang  ➜ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang    The B Word ➜ Instagram: @thebword_za -https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za  ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za  Guest ➜ Instagram: @zithobemacheli-https://www.instagram.com/zithobemacheli ➜Tik Tok: @zithobemacheli-https://www.tiktok.com/@zithobemacheli  ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰ E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com  ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰ Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi  Videography: Shutter Scope Post Production: Thapelo Mogashoa

  2. Aug 30

    The Pleasure of Becoming a Grown Woman: Your 30s, Age Gap Dating & Celibacy ft. Nandipha Mqoco

    Whoever convinced women that life peaks in their twenties has some explaining to do. 😭 Because if you ask us? The thirties are kind of giving. This week, Nandipha Mqoco pulls up a chair at the A2B Café for a conversation about getting older, getting hotter, getting clearer on who you are and why there is so much more life waiting for women on the other side of 30. We talk about the freedom that comes with knowing yourself better, our changing relationships with our bodies, style, confidence, friendship, career and the pressure women feel to have life “figured out” by a certain age. And because we're still lover girls around here, we also get into love, dating and what romance looks like when you're older, wiser and perhaps a little less willing to entertain nonsense. 😂 Think Sex and the City, Girlfriends, Insecure-except this time, we’re the women in our thirties we grew up watching. 🥂 This episode of According to B is powered by Bernini. ✰ TIMESTAMPS✰ 01:00- Coming up 02:23- Intro  05:08- Bokang introduces Nandipha to A2B  06:10- Game: The starter- for the plot 17:50- The main: The conversation 18:17- How Nandipha felt on the lead up to 30 24:44- What Nandipha thought 30 would look like vs the reality 32:27- Nandipha on the importance of living alone 40:31- Nandipha’s approach to love in her 30s vs her 20s 46:59- Nnadipha’s concerns about millennials and their inability to understand consent 48:37- How Nandipha’s decision to date differently has affected who she can date 49:50- Nandipha’s celibacy journey 56:53- How dating changed for Nandipha changed when sex was off the table 01:00:03- Other forms of intimacy that Nandipha enjoys 01:04:13- What 20 year old Nandipha would be surprised by 01:05:45- What Nandipha would tell 20 year old her about navigating the 20’s 01:07:19- Dessert: Nandipha is gifted her Bernini tote bag 01:08:03- Outro ✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰ Bokang ➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang  ➜ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang    The B Word ➜ Instagram: @thebword_za -https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za  ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za  Guest ➜ Instagram: @nandipha_mqoco-https://www.instagram.com/nandipha_mqoco- ➜Tik Tok:@nandipha_mqoco-https://www.tiktok.com/@nandipha_mqoco  ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰ E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com  ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰ Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi  Videography: Shutter Scope Post Production: Palesa Radebe

  3. Aug 23

    Breaking Up With My Dream Life: Bonge Gumede on Success, Surrender & Starting Over / Thumbnail: I got everything I wanted…

    What happens when you get everything you worked for… and realise you might not want it anymore? Bonge Gumede spent years building the dream. She left university to bet on herself, poured everything into becoming a full-time fitness creator and eventually built the career she had imagined — a global audience, six-figure earnings, major opportunities and even the chance to live abroad. Then, at what should have felt like the height of it all, she walked away. In this episode, Bonge takes us through the build, the cage and the unbecoming: the relentless work it took to create her career, what achieving her goals revealed about her relationship with productivity and success, and the six-month sabbatical that changed everything. We talk about faith, ambition, burnout, family, fitness, social media, learning how to be still and the role God played in completely redefining Bonge’s understanding of womanhood, worth and what she wants her life to be built around. Sometimes changing your life isn’t about chasing a bigger dream. Sometimes it’s having the courage to question the one you already achieved. 🥂 This episode of According to B is powered by Bernini. ✰ TIMESTAMPS✰ 01:00- Coming up 01:48- Intro  04:08- Bokang introduces Bonge to A2B  04:42- Game: The starter- for the plot 17:50- The main: The conversation 18:14- What made Bonge begin her content creation journey 21:35- How content creation became a job for Bonge 23:59-The sacrifices the Bonge had to make to build her career 29:48- The peak and success of Bonge’s career 28:01- Bonge’s move to Dubai 29:47- The turning point 31:53- 2025:The year God humbled Bonge 36:13- What it was about the fitness industry and social media that wasn’t aligning 41:05- Bonge on stepping back and slowing down 45:49- The aspects of Bonge’s life that grewin the slowing down 53:51- How Bonge’s relationship with fitness and her body has changed 58:33- How Bonge defines success now 01:01:58- Younger Bonge vs who Bonge is now 01:06:24- Dessert: Bonge is gifted her Bernini tote bag 01:07:08- Outro ✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰ Bokang ➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang  ➜ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang    The B Word ➜ Instagram: @thebword_za -https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za  ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za  ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰ E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com  ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰ Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi  Videography: Shutter Scope Post Production: Palesa Radebe

  4. Aug 16

    Do We Have to Settle Down? Popi Sibiya on Travel, Marriage & Being Choicefully Childfree

    What happens when you stop building your life around the milestones you were told you should want  and start asking what you actually want instead? Travel creator and digital anthropologist Popi Sibiya has built a life defined by curiosity, adventure and a willingness to take the road less travelled — literally. Over drinks at the A2B Café, Popi and I talk about the choices that have shaped the life she lives today: travel, freedom, home, relationships, marriage, being child-free, taking risks and deciding what “enough” looks like when you’re not following the traditional blueprint. We get into what she was really searching for when she first started travelling, whether constant movement can ever become another comfort zone, the things she's learned about herself from seeing the world, and what it means to build a life that actually feels like your own. Because maybe there isn’t one right way to do womanhood. Maybe the real adventure is figuring out yours. 🥂 This episode of According to B is powered by Bernini. ✰ TIMESTAMPS✰ 01:00- Coming up 01:18- Intro 02:44- Bokang introduces Popi to A2B 03:41- Game: The starter- for the plot 22:31- The main: The conversation 23:14- Who Popi was before the content 25:12- Why Popi chose to teach english in China 26:20- What prompted Popi to leave China and move back home 29:48- The moment Popi realised being a travel creator could be a job 33:22- How Popi decided to monetize her content 34:50- Popi on comparing her life with other peoples 37:20- Popi’s perspective on romantic relationships, marriage and kids 48:03- Popi on whether she believes the man she wants exists 51:12- Popi on living her dream life 51:55- The realities of being a travel creator 53:26- How sustainable The Popi Show is right now 56:58- Advice for corporate version of Popi 57:55- Popi’s message for the woman who doesn’t know what the next looks like 59:48- Dessert:Popi is gifted her Bernini tote bag 01:01:01-Outro ✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰ Bokang ➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang  ➜ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang    The B Word ➜ Instagram: @thebword_za -https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za  ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za  Guest Popi ➜ Instagram:@popi_sibiya- -https://www.instagram.com/popi_sibiya ➜TikTok: @popi_sibiya- https://www.tiktok.com/@popi_sibiya  ✰ LISTEN ON ✰  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XnqZ7b... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Castbox: https://castbox.fm/channel/id5426930?... ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰ E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com  ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰ Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi  Videography: Shutter Scope Post Production: Palesa Radebe

  5. Aug 9

    From a Village Girl to Miss South Africa, Columbia University & Beyond w/ Shudu Musida

    Shudufhadzo Musida has never been afraid to dream beyond what seems realistic. From entering Miss South Africa when she never considered herself a “pageant girl,” to eventually wearing the crown, pursuing her studies at Columbia University and living out a New York dream she first imagined as a little girl Shudu’s life is proof of just how far a dream can take you. But big dreams can also require big sacrifices. In our first conversation at the A2B Café, Shudu and I talk about keeping a dream alive when your circumstances give you no evidence that it’s possible, refusing to choose between your ambitions, the years of work behind the achievements we celebrate, and the time, relationships and rest that can sometimes be sacrificed along the way. We also get into what happens when you finally find yourself living inside a life your younger self once dreamed about — and have to give yourself permission to dream even bigger. 🥂 This episode of According to B is powered by Bernini. ✰ TIMESTAMPS✰ 01:26- Coming up 01:27- Intro 04:58- Bokang introduces Shudu to A2B 06:48- Game: The starter- for the plot 19:25- The main: The conversation 20:06- Where Shudu’s New York dream started 24:36- Shudu on immersing herself into New York 28:53- What encouraged Shudu to keep dreaming big 31:35- Shudu on her first time applying to Columbia University 39:20- The Miss South Africa last minute entry 43:49- Shudu on navigating her mental health during Miss SA and her studies 50:28- The planned and unplanned dreams Shudu has achieved 54:08- The cost of achieving the dream 57:26- Shudu’s relationship with rest 01:02:29- Shudu’s pockets of joy in the busyness 01:10:34- Shudu’s advice to anyone that feels like their big dream is impossible 01:15:23- Unconventional desert: Shudu receives her Bernini bag 01:16:44- Outro ✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰ Bokang ➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang  ➜ Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang    The B Word ➜ Instagram: @thebword_za -https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za  ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za  Guest Shudu ➜ Instagram: @shudufhadzomusida- -https://www.instagram.com/shudufhadzomusida ➜TikTok: @shudumusida-  https://www.tiktok.com/@shudumusida ✰ LISTEN ON ✰  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XnqZ7b... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Castbox: https://castbox.fm/channel/id5426930?... ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰ E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com  ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰ Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi  Videography: Shutter Scope Post Production: Palesa Radebe

  6. Mar 12

    Unlearning The Good Girl You Were Raised To Be ft. Ursula Mariani | According To B x Bernini

    This episode of According To B is in partnership with Bernini - the sparkling spritzer born from real wine. Who are you beyond praise? Beyond approval? Beyond productivity? This conversation is for the woman who has always done what was expected - and is now asking deeper questions.  I sit down with Ursula Mariani and together, we explore what it means to outgrow versions of yourself that once kept you safe. From discipline and achievement to faith, conditioning, and authorship, Ursula shares how intellectual curiosity and emotional honesty can coexist - and how real freedom begins when you stop performing and start choosing. Subscribe to The B Word here: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBWord?su...  ✰ MEET OUR CO-HOST ✰ Ursula Ursula Mariani is a lecturer, PHD candidate voice-over artist, and the host of the podcast: The Conversation Capital, where she explores the power of dialogue as currency-in relationships, leadership, and identity. Known for her clarity of thought and grounded presence, Ursula has become a trusted voice in conversations around womanhood, conditioning, faith, and personal authorship. Her work sits at the intersection of intellect and introspection. Whether she’s in a lecture hall, behind a microphone, or leading nuanced discussions online, Ursula is committed to helping women question inherited expectations and consciously choose who they want to become. ✰ TIMESTAMPS✰ 00:00 - Intro 03:23 - Meet Ursula 05:59 - Game: Toast or Ghost 19:51 - Ursula on being a good girl growing up 25:20 - The parts of herself Ursula left unexplored as a result of being a good girl 27:09 - Dilemma 34:11 - Ursula on growing into being independent and self-possessed 36:39 - Ursula on honouring parents without living according to their will 41:09 - The things Ursula has had to unlearn in the process of shedding  43:10 - The parts of herself that Ursula is only discovering now 45:09 - The part of herself that Ursula is excited to step into more  47:52 - What younger Ursula would think of her now 50:14 - Ursula receives her Breathe It In box 51:16 - Outro ✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰ Bokang ➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-  / https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang    ➜ Tik Tok:@sheisbokang-  https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang    The B Word ➜ Instagram: @thebword_za - https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza- https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za  Guest Ursula ➜ Instagram: @ursulamariani  -https://www.instagram.com/ursulamariani  ➜TikTok: @ursulamariani- https://www.tiktok.com/@ursulamariani  ✰ LISTEN ON ✰  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XnqZ7bUlKg3TQS6LWZpZE?si=ad35431e1c1a474d  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/bw/podcast/according-to-b/id1686532135  Castbox:https://castbox.fm/vh/5426930  ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰ E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com  ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰ Director: Bokang Lehlokoe Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi  Production Assistant: Senamile Dlamini Videography: Looped Pictures   Post Production: Looped Pictures

  7. Mar 5

    Chasing Big Dreams (When You Have No Proof It’ll Work) ft. Gaisang Noge | According To B x Bernini

    This episode of According to B is brought to you in partnership with Bernini-the sparkling spritzer born from real wine.  What would the younger version of you think of your life today? In this episode, Gaisang Noge and I reflect on growth, dreams, disappointment, patience, and staying true to yourself in an industry and a world that often asks you to become someone else. This conversation is for anyone learning to trust their timing and honour their becoming. Subscribe to The B Word here: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBWord?su...  ✰ MEET OUR CO-HOST ✰ Gaisang Gaisang Noge is a South African actress, media personality, and creative whose work reflects depth, versatility, and authenticity. Known for her powerful performances on screen, she brings emotional nuance and relatability to every role she inhabits- earning her recognition as one of her generation’s compelling talents. Beyond the spotlight, Gaisang’s journey is one of resilience, patience, and self-belief. From navigating rejection to trusting the timing of her dreams, she represents the woman who keeps going-even when the path feels uncertain. Her presence is both playful and grounded, proof that ambition and authenticity can coexist. ✰ TIMESTAMPS✰ 00:00 - Intro 02:25 - Meet Gaisang 04:03 - Game: Toast or Ghost 13:25 - Bokang surprises Gaisang with a 2016 throwback 15:34 - Gaisang on losing and finding herself again 21:03 - Gaisang on making her dream a reality 22:51 - Gaisang’s first experience on set  26:33 - What kept Gaisang going in the waiting 27:02 - The lesson God taught Gaisang before opening the doors 31:13 - Gaisang on avoiding the pressure to always perform 33:42 - The one thing that Gaisang is doing now, for future her  38:05 - Gaisang’s first half marathon  42:24 -Gaisang receives her Breathe It In box  43:22- Outro ✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰ Bokang ➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-  / https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang    ➜ Tik Tok:@sheisbokang-  https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang    The B Word ➜ Instagram: @thebword_za - https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza- https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za  Guest Gaisang ➜ Instagram: @ms_noge  -https://www.instagram.com/ms_noge  ➜TikTok: @ms_noge7-https://www.tiktok.com/@ms_noge7 ✰ LISTEN ON ✰  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XnqZ7bUlKg3TQS6LWZpZE?si=ad35431e1c1a474d  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/bw/podcast/according-to-b/id1686532135  Castbox:https://castbox.fm/vh/5426930  ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰ E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com  ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰ Director: Bokang Lehlokoe Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi  Production Assistant: Senamile Dlamini Videography: Looped Pictures   Post Production: Looped Pictures

  8. Feb 26

    The Lost Art of Dating Yourself with Gugulethu Nyatsumba

    Dating yourself doesn’t mean you’ve given up on love. It means you’ve decided to show up for your own life with intention. In this episode, lifestyle creator and podcaster Gugulethu Nyatsumba returns to the podcast for a grounded, honest conversation about what “dating yourself” really looks like beyond the quotes. We explore: The difference between being alone and living fully Solo dates, confidence, and emotional independence How your relationship with yourself shapes every other relationship Dating yourself while still desiring partnership If you’re learning how to enjoy your own company, build standards, and live with presence - this conversation is for you. Subscribe to The B Word here: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBWord?su...  ✰ MEET OUR CO-HOST ✰ Gugulethu Gugulethu Nyatsumba popularly known as Sis G.U is a lifestyle content creator, podcaster, and digital storyteller known for her grounded presence and intentional approach to living. Through her platform, she shares reflections on faith, self-trust, solitude, and what it means to move through life at your own pace-without rushing to perform or impress. Her content resonates because it feels honest, Gugu embodies a quiet confidence rooted in self-awareness and emotional maturity. She represents a generation of women redefining independence- not as isolation, but as security within oneself. Through her work, she invites women to romanticise their own lives, embrace stillness, and trust that becoming is not something to rush. ✰ TIMESTAMPS✰ 00:00 - Intro 02:27 - Meet Gugu 04:22 - The differences between Gugu in 2023 vs 2026 07:04 - Game: Toast or Ghost 14:15 - What the definition of dating herself is  for Gugu 18:18 - Relationship check 20:07 - Gugu on embodying how she can experience love on her own  22:56 - Gugu's love language to herself  26:25 - Gugu's favourite solo experiences 28:53 - Gugu on solo travel 35:13 - Gugu on being content single but still desiring partnership 37:04 - The impact of self-love on how Gugu approaches dating  41:03 - Gugu on standing in her own way in relationships 41:37 - Gugu's advice for anyone who wants to choose themselves 45:48- Gugu receives her Breathe It In gift box 47:04- Outro ✰ SOCIAL MEDIA ✰ Bokang ➜ Instagram: @sheisbokang-  / https://www.instagram.com/sheisbokang    ➜ Tik Tok:@sheisbokang-  https://www.tiktok.com/@sheisbokang    The B Word ➜ Instagram: @thebword_za - https://www.instagram.com/thebword_za ➜ Tik Tok: @thebwordza- https://www.tiktok.com/@thebword_za  Guest Gugulethu ➜ Instagram: @gugulethu_nyatsumba -https://www.instagram.com/gugulethu_nyatsumba  ➜TikTok: @gugulethu_nyatsumba-https://www.tiktok.com/@gugulethu_nyatsumba  ✰ LISTEN ON ✰  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0XnqZ7bUlKg3TQS6LWZpZE?si=ad35431e1c1a474d  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/bw/podcast/according-to-b/id1686532135  Castbox:https://castbox.fm/vh/5426930  ✰ BUSINESS INQUIRIES ✰ E-mail: hello@thebwordmedia.com  ✰ TEAM/CREDITS ✰ Director: Bokang Lehlokoe Producer: Bokang Lehlokoe & Tshegetso Moepi  Production Assistant: Senamile Dlamini Videography: Looped Pictures   Post Production: Looped Pictures

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According to B is your go-to podcast for real talk with women who are ditching the rulebook and doing life their way. Hosted by Bokang Lehlokoe, it’s all about the messy middles, quiet wins, and bold moves behind the scenes. We’re not here for highlight reels - we’re here for who you’re becoming. Expect raw convos, big laughs, deep feels, and a reminder that living boldly beats living perfectly, every single time.

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  • Creator
    Bokang Lehlokoe
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    30
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Bokang Lehlokoe
  • Show Website
    According To B

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