Beyond Your Number

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You’re not just a type — you’re a whole story. Beyond Your Number is a conversational Enneagram podcast where Damon & Kelly explore real-life growth through personality. From relationships to team dynamics, we help you go deeper than the label. New episodes every Wednesday. Formerly EnneagramU.

  1. JAN 28

    Subtype Layers: Type 8

    This week’s episode isn’t fully evergreen, because it’s recorded right as Kelly is leading a VU service trip to Jamaica and a major winter storm is about to hit the Midwest. That real-time pressure makes it the perfect setup for Enneagram Type 8 subtypes, because you hear “8 energy” in action: decision-making, urgency, leadership, control, and the tension of letting go when the outcome is out of your hands. Damon and Kelly break down the three Type 8 instinctual variants (self-preservation, social, one-to-one), how each one protects and leads, and how the same strengths can turn into blind spots when intensity takes over. In this episode, you’ll learn: Why Type 8 is “the challenger,” and how control and strength show up under stressSelf-Pres 8 “Survivalist,” crisis-ready, protective, resourceful, and hard to slow downSocial 8 “Protector/Leader,” justice-oriented leadership, leading for the whole group, and “leading up”How Social 8 can mistype as a 2 (care for others, group focus, but different motive and energy)One-to-One 8 “Intense Protector,” fierce loyalty, deep bond when trust forms, and why intensity can intimidateThe shadow sides: stubbornness, steamrolling, impatience, possessiveness, and anger in close relationshipsSubtype quick reference: Self-Preservation 8: SurvivalistSocial 8: Protector, LeaderOne-to-One (Sexual) 8: Intense ProtectorFollow us on Apple Podcasts and leave a review: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/enneagramu/id1691530997 Follow us on Spotify and leave a review: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kbIVeByJn4WDoN3kFlUId?si=65a99542c46a49fa

    32 min
  2. 12/10/2025

    Cake & Subtypes: The 3 Layers of Enneagram 1s and 2s

    In this episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly head into the Enneagram “bakery” and build out the full three-layer cake of subtypes for Types 1 and 2. Using the playful “Is It Cake?” metaphor, they show how each subtype can look completely different on the outside, even when the core number underneath is the same. Kelly walks through the Self-Preservation, Social, and One-to-One (sexual) subtypes for Type 1 (the Organizer, the Good Citizen, and the Crusader) and Type 2 (the Caretaker, the Host, and the Intimate Helper). Along the way they talk boards and bylaws, life-coach energy, over-helping, intensity in close relationships, and why motivation is the key to telling “is it Type 1, Type 2, or something else?” If you are a 1 or 2 (or love one), this conversation will help you spot your dominant subtype, recognize your growth edges, and appreciate the people in your life who organize, host, and love so deeply. Type 1 Self-preservation 1: The OrganizerSocial 1: The Good CitizenOne-to-one (sexual) 1: The CrusaderType 2 Self-preservation 2: The Caretaker (also called The Nurturer)Social 2: The Host (also called The Community Builder)One-to-one (sexual) 2: The Intimate HelperFollow us on Apple Podcasts and leave a review: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/enneagramu/id1691530997 Follow us on Spotify and leave a review: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kbIVeByJn4WDoN3kFlUId?si=65a99542c46a49fa

    28 min
5
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10 Ratings

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You’re not just a type — you’re a whole story. Beyond Your Number is a conversational Enneagram podcast where Damon & Kelly explore real-life growth through personality. From relationships to team dynamics, we help you go deeper than the label. New episodes every Wednesday. Formerly EnneagramU.