Bad Wives Club

Bleav, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano

Welcome to The Bad Wives Club! We’re Libby & Liz — two best friends bringing our phone conversations straight to your speakers. We talk about the good, the bad, and the real life of marriage and motherhood. We’ve been through it all together for over 15 years—growing up, growing families, and figuring out life one stage at a time. We’re not professionals, just two moms keeping it real and leaving the expert advice to, well… the experts. Tune in weekly to hear all about how we juggle our daily lives as working moms, all while confidently NOT doing it all (*insert husband here*)!

  1. 1d ago

    Disney Mom vs. Disney Aunt: Our Unfiltered Trip Recap | 120

    Liz’s sister Kristen is back & she’s been putting in WORK. You know her from Liz’s Instagram or past episodes she’s been a guest on, but this week she’s recapping their recent Disney trip from an aunt’s perspective. She crashed Liz’s family trip, got the full experience, and decided a couple of days was plenty. Then Liz’s unexpected trip to the ER left Kristen holding down the house with three kids…until five neighborhood kids joined them. Eight kids. One over-stimulated Type A Kristen. We’re talking family vacations, aunt life, and the sister who always shows up even when the job description keeps changing (like helping us with this podcast)... What we talked about: Where we stayed (with help from our parents’ Disney Vacation Club membership. We know that’s a privilege—Disney is expensive) What we loved (the best character breakfast, and BTS of Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique) Rides and reality checks (why we could skip Mickey’s Not-So-Scary Halloween Party next time) Back home (Liz’s migraine-with-aura experience, asking for help and Aunt Kristen taking over) REMEMBERING CELINE: Today, October 15, is Pregnancy and Infant Loss Remembrance Day. Join us in lighting a candle at 7 p.m. your local time for the Wave of Light, honoring the babies we’ve lost and the families who carry their memory. On October 24, Liz’s sister Kelly is teaching a BBB workout fundraiser at the Hilton Boston Park Plaza, with proceeds benefiting March of Dimes. Liz, Kristen, and Libby will all be there!! Come work out with us and support a cause close to our family. Join Kelly for BBB Moves for March of Dimes: Saturday, October 24, 2026, at 10:30 a.m. ET, Hilton Boston Park Plaza. In honor of Celine; proceeds benefit March of Dimes. Get tickets here. MORE FROM THE CLUB More Disney chaos: Listen to Liz & Libby’s 2025 Disney episode, when BOTH families went together—with Libby pregnant with Sonny. Want Liz’s planning details and more expanded conversations beyond the podcast? The Disney Pro Mom Planning Guide and so much more is coming soon! Subscribe at badwivesclub.substack.com so you don’t miss it. COME HANG WITH US — Follow @badwivesclubpodcast on Instagram and @badwivesclub on TikTok. Follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, send this to a friend, and leave us a 5-star review! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  2. Oct 1

    Raising Kids in a World of Instant Gratification | 119

    How do we teach kids patience and hard work when everything they want is one click away? This week on Bad Wives Club, we’re talking about parenting in a world of instant gratification, teaching kids responsibility, and getting them involved in household chores. Liz shares how her Skylight calendar is helping organize family routines and motivate her kids to pitch in. We compare chore charts and reward systems for kids, the ones that work, the ones that flop, and why Libby’s pretty much always fall apart. Plus, why does everyone want to be “helper of the day” at school but never at home?! We also share some big podcast news: we hired our first manager! Libby reflects on being a mom of three, how motherhood feels different with her third baby. She also opens up about her August “crash out,” postpartum overwhelm, and the mental load of motherhood long after the newborn stage. An honest, funny conversation about raising responsible kids, managing life as working moms, and trying to teach patience when we’re running out of it ourselves. SKYLIGHT CALENDAR - "BWC15" gets you 15% off your order, order here! NUTRE MEALS - "BWC40" gets you 40% off your first order, visit Go Nutre here! COME HANG WITH US Get the inside scoop—subscribe to Bad Wives Club on Substack. Follow BWC on Instagram + TikTok, connect with Liz + Libby, and follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We’re so grateful you’re here. Sharing this episode with a friend or leaving a rating or review helps more people find the club. Thank you for supporting us!! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  3. Sep 24

    Kelly Brabants Gallo Part 2: The Collection She Never Gave Up On | 118

    Our sister and BFF, Kelly Brabants Gallo, is back for part two—and this one is for the BBB girls. In part one, we talked about motherhood, marriage, and navigating grief after losing her daughter, Celine. So many of you sent us and Kelly the most heartfelt messages about what that conversation meant to you. Knowing it helped someone feel a little less alone is exactly why we do this. This week, we’re getting into the story behind the collection Kelly never gave up on. If you’ve been wearing Booty by Brabants since the Not Your Average Basic days, you already know how special this fabric is. But what you haven’t heard is everything it took to bring it back. Kelly opens up about manufacturing setbacks, the financial risks of running a small business, and trying to keep going when her personal world had fallen apart. She shares why she put the collection on hold, what changed behind the scenes, and how she finally got to a place where she could stand behind every detail. We also get into the fit, sizing, new silhouettes, and why we’ve been wearing these pieces on repeat. Whether you’re building something of your own or have been a BBB customer for years, this conversation gives you a real look at the person—and the persistence—behind the clothes. We’re so proud of her. And please stay until the end. Kelly’s husband joins us for a rapid-fire round that turns into a conversation about marriage, working parenthood, and learning how to ask each other for help. There’s football, a chicken cutlet story, and a thank-you to the BBB community that had all of us emotional. The most special way to close out these two episodes. SHOP & CONNECT Explore the collection Kelly brought back on September 30 at Booty by Brabants, and follow Kelly + the BBB team for collection updates, free live workouts, and upcoming events. Join us in Boston on October 24, 2026, for Kelly’s Park Plaza workout honoring Celine and benefiting March of Dimes. Bring a friend and get your tickets here. SUPPORT OUR PARTNERS Make a busy week a little easier with our partner Nutre Meals. Ordering through our link helps support Bad Wives Club, and we appreciate you supporting the brands that support us. COME HANG WITH US Get the inside scoop and subscribe to Bad Wives Club on Substack. Follow BWC on Instagram + TikTok, connect with Liz + Libby, and follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We’re so grateful you’re here. If this episode made you laugh, cry, or feel a little more understood, send it to a friend. Leaving a rating or review helps more people find the club, too. Love you guys! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  4. Sep 17

    One Day At A Time: Grief, Healing + Motherhood with Kelly Brabants Gallo Pt. 1 | 117

    This week, we’re joined by Kelly Brabants Gallo, founder of Booty by Brabants, Body by Brabants and The Beehive Studio, for an honest conversation about motherhood, infant loss, miscarriage, trying to conceive, and pregnancy after loss. Kelly shares what her fitness routine looks like today, including how she maximizes a short 20-minute workout, adjusts movement for different bodies and seasons of life, and prioritizes hydration, sleep, strength training, and consistency. She also opens up about balancing motherhood with being an entrepreneur and business owner, setting boundaries, and learning not to overplan every part of life. Kelly reflects on finding the hope and courage to try to conceive again after losing her daughter, Celine. She discusses the loneliness of miscarriage and TTC, the fear she carried throughout her subsequent pregnancy, and how EMDR therapy helped her process trauma and prepare to welcome her son, Troy. Now four months postpartum, Kelly talks about adjusting to parenthood, returning to her businesses when she felt ready, communicating with her husband, and learning how to reconnect after disagreements. It’s a powerful conversation about resilience, presence, fitness, relationships, pregnancy after loss, and holding both grief and hope both at the same time. BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Love hanging with us? Support the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible. Nutre Meals — Make busy lunches and weeknight dinners a little easier. Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. Cozy Earth — Get cozy with 20% off at checkout using code BADWIVES. Make sure you tell them you heard about Cozy Earth from Bad Wives Club! Supporting our sponsors helps support the show—thank you for showing them some love. COME HANG WITH US Follow Bad Wives Club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you never miss an episode. Loved this episode? Send it to the friend who needs to hear it—and leave us a 5-star review! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  5. Sep 10

    Back to School, Mom Anxiety and Sharing the Morning Chaos | 116

    School is back, the lunchboxes need packing, and someone’s crying at drop-off—possibly us. Liz + Libby are putting you on speaker for an honest catch-up about back-to-school routines, mom anxiety, and sharing the morning chaos with our husbands. We’re answering your parenting questions, catching up on Liz’s Italy trip, and figuring out this new season of motherhood together. This week on Bad Wives Club, we're talking about: • Starting kindergarten, emotional preschool drop-offs, and settling into school-year routines • What we’re actually packing in our kids’ lunches • Sharing morning responsibilities with our husbands and managing the mental load of parenting • Kids’ screen time and the anxiety of worrying something could happen to your children • Going from one kid to two and traveling with babies • Finding a balance between fitness, nutrition, and enjoying your life • Liz’s Italy recap and the “nappuccino” hangover conversation we apparently needed to have BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Love hanging with us? Support the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible. Nutre Meals — Make busy lunches and weeknight dinners a little easier. Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. Cozy Earth — Get cozy with 20% off at checkout using code BADWIVES. Make sure you tell them you heard about Cozy Earth from Bad Wives Club! Supporting our sponsors helps support the show—thank you for showing them some love. COME HANG WITH US Follow Bad Wives Club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you never miss an episode. Loved this episode? Send it to the friend who needs to hear it—and leave us a 5-star review! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  6. Aug 20

    Grief, Marriage and Taking the Trip with Liz and Jeff Fragala | 115

    The kids are young. Work is busy. There’s always a reason to put the trip—and time together—off, but after losing both of his parents, Jeff Fragala has a different perspective on waiting for “someday.” SPECIAL GUEST: Jeff Fragala, Liz’s husband This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz + Jeff Fragala are talking about: • Grief after losing both parents and how loss changes your priorities • Prioritizing your marriage while raising a family • Planning their first trip to Europe together—Positano, Italy! • Making time for each other without waiting for the perfect moment An honest conversation about grief, marriage, and choosing to make memories with the people you love. BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Support the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible. Westwood IV Therapy — Use code BWC50 for $50 off your first IV. Nutre Meals — Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. COME HANG WITH US We’re so grateful you’re here and part of the Bad Wives Club community. Join the club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast where you listen to podcasts! If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with someone who might need it. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find us. Thank you for listening and supporting the show. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  7. Aug 13

    The Lindsay Clancy Trial: Postpartum Mental Health with Therapist Alexandria Hershman | 114

    “Something isn’t right. I need help.” Why is that so hard for so many moms to say? The conversation surrounding the Lindsay Clancy trial brings us to an important discussion about postpartum mental health, recognizing warning signs, and helping mothers feel safe asking for support. SPECIAL GUEST: Alexandria “Allie” Hershman, licensed clinical therapist This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about: • Baby blues, postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety, postpartum OCD, and postpartum psychosis • Intrusive thoughts versus command hallucinations—and recognizing when urgent help is needed • Medication, psychiatric care, and gaps in postpartum screening and support • The fear of speaking up and how partners, family, and friends can step in proactively We’re sharing personal experiences and focusing on maternal mental health education and support, without assessing Lindsay Clancy’s diagnosis or legal case. CONNECT WITH ALLIE alexandriahershman.com Instagram: @alexandriahershman + @allie_jaie BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Support the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible. Nutre Meals — Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. Cozy Earth — Use code BADWIVES for 20% off at checkout, and tell them you heard about Cozy Earth from Bad Wives Club! COME HANG WITH US We’re so grateful you’re here and part of the Bad Wives Club community. Join the club on Instagram + TikTok, and follow the podcast! If this conversation meant something to you, we’d love for you to share it with someone who might need it. And if you have a moment to leave a 5-star rating or review, we’d be so appreciative—it helps more people find us. Thank you for listening and supporting the show. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

  8. Aug 6

    Going Back to Work After Maternity Leave: Guilt & New Routines | 113

    Excited to go back to work—and feeling guilty about it? Libby’s six months of maternity leave are coming to an end, and we’re talking about all the feelings that can exist at once: anticipation, anxiety, and the bittersweet reality of leaving your baby. This week on Bad Wives Club, Liz Fragala + Libby Pisano are talking about: • Returning to work after maternity leave and navigating mom guilt • The anxiety and excitement of being away from your baby • Adjusting family schedules and balancing work and motherhood • Their reactions to the Lindsay Clancy trial at the time of recording • Why Netflix’s I Will Find You has become their latest obsession If you’re preparing to return to work or finding your rhythm as a working mom, you’re in good company. BWC PARTNERS — SUPPORT THE SHOW Thank you for supporting the sponsors who help make Bad Wives Club possible. Nutre Meals — Make busy workdays and family dinners a little easier. Use code BWC40 for 40% off your first order. JOIN THE CLUB No perfect wives or moms required—we’re figuring it out together, and we’re so glad you’re here. Join us on Instagram + TikTok, and follow Bad Wives Club on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Know a mom heading back to work? We’d love for you to send this episode her way. And if you’re enjoying the show, we’d be so grateful for a 5-star rating or review—it helps more people find the club. Thank you for being part of it. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Welcome to The Bad Wives Club! We’re Libby & Liz — two best friends bringing our phone conversations straight to your speakers. We talk about the good, the bad, and the real life of marriage and motherhood. We’ve been through it all together for over 15 years—growing up, growing families, and figuring out life one stage at a time. We’re not professionals, just two moms keeping it real and leaving the expert advice to, well… the experts. Tune in weekly to hear all about how we juggle our daily lives as working moms, all while confidently NOT doing it all (*insert husband here*)!

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