Canadian Private Lenders’ Podcast

Neal Andreino and Ryan MacNeil

The #1 Podcast on Private Mortgage Lending in Canada. Ryan MacNeil and Neal Andreino of Keystone Capital Group outline their private mortgage lending experience and help you grow your mortgage business, while focusing on the importance of the growing Canadian Mortgage Broker channel. 

  1. 5d ago

    Ep.153 | The CEO Who Started With Mark Cuban Is Now Reshaping Private Lending Software

    Ryan and Neal sit down with Jason Alexander, CEO of Mortgage Automator and now also CEO of Lendr, for a candid conversation about the software powering a huge chunk of Canada's private lending industry. Jason unpacks his 30 year career in tech, from his very first job working for Mark Cuban in 1996, to leading multiple software companies through major growth and eventually landing in the CEO seat at Mortgage Automator just over a year ago. The guys dig into the recent Lendr acquisition and why it fundamentally changes how Automator will operate going forward, with Automator becoming Canada exclusive and Lendr taking over as the platform for all US customers. Jason gets refreshingly transparent about what was working, what needed to change, and where the product is headed next. Expect deep dives on the upcoming loan servicing overhaul, why big lenders are asking Automator to help them get rid of their in house IT teams, how AI and MCP integrations will change day to day lending workflows, and Jason's take on the differences between the Canadian and American lending markets. If you use Automator, are considering it, or just want to understand where lending tech is heading, this one is essential listening. Show Notes 00:00 Recap: hosts break down the biggest takeaways from the interview01:31 Meet Jason Alexander, CEO of Mortgage Automator and Lendr02:11 Starting his career working for Mark Cuban in 199605:20 How Jason went from retirement to running Mortgage Automator06:40 Leaving college 32 hours short of a CS degree08:56 What attracted Jason to Automator from his loan servicing background11:02 Why big lenders want Automator to help them cut their IT teams13:34 Rethinking what Automator's customer service team actually does15:37 One year in: what Jason inherited and what he plans to change17:35 Why the credit union segment needs a specialized product19:10 The big reveal: Automator becomes Canada only, Lendr takes over the US22:57 How the US customer migration to Lendr is being handled23:59 The biggest differences between the Canadian and American lending markets25:37 Why the Canadian mid market barely exists26:07 Inside the Lendr acquisition: how the deal actually came together30:04 The barbecue meeting in South Phoenix that sealed the partnership32:09 How Bryce, the former Lendr CEO, is reshaping Automator's product philosophy34:41 Are more acquisitions on the horizon?36:06 Is AI a threat to companies like Automator?39:11 What Automator customers can expect in the next 12 months and beyond43:12 The MCP rollout and what it means for AI powered workflows46:11 Bonus round: Jason's top food and travel picks in the US Resources: Keystone Capital Group CPLP Instagram: @cplpodcast Keystone Instagram: @keycapgroup Find Neal On: Instagram: @neal.andreino LinkedIn: Neal Andreino Find Ryan on: LinkedIn: Ryan MacNeil E-mail: ryan@keycap.ca ENROL IN THE CPL NEWSLETTER: http://eepurl.com/FIKgpXhSbH

  2. Sep 23

    Ep.152 | How Running Through Houses Turned This Halifax Realtor Into a Social Media Star

    Ryan flies solo for Episode 152 and sits down with James Goode, a realtor with The Agency in Halifax and one of the most recognizable faces in Atlantic Canadian real estate content. If you have ever scrolled through TikTok or Instagram and watched a guy sprint through a stunning listing set to music, chances are you were watching James. In this conversation, he pulls back the curtain on how a random idea from a friend turned into a 200,000 view content formula, and how his social presence has actually closed deals for his clients. James walks Ryan through his unlikely path into real estate, from a theology degree to becoming a CPA at Ernst and Young, before Covid pushed him toward a career reset. They dig into what makes content actually work in a saturated realtor market, why negativity in the comments is sometimes the best thing that can happen to a video, and the strategic differences between TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube. The two also cover the current state of the Halifax and rural Nova Scotia market, the price points that are moving versus sitting, and a preview of James's upcoming HGTV style TV appearance on Oceanfront Property. If you are a realtor, mortgage professional, or anyone building a personal brand, this one is loaded with tactical takeaways. Show Notes: 00:00 Ryan's solo intro and setup for the interview01:25 Meet James Goode of The Agency01:55 From theology degree to CPA at Ernst and Young04:04 How Covid pushed James out of accounting and into real estate05:07 Why the accounting network was the biggest career catalyst05:42 Hitting his stride five years into the business07:25 The origin of the run through houses concept08:52 Breaking down the time commitment behind viral content10:12 How James is building a YouTube channel from scratch11:35 The $6M Ontario listing that hit 200,000 views on TikTok12:12 Why negative comments are actually great for the algorithm15:06 Testing whether his social audience translates to new markets16:20 Why real estate content is boring and how James breaks the mold20:18 The strategy differences between Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube22:20 Proof that viral content actually sells houses23:20 The state of the Halifax and Nova Scotia market right now26:11 The exact price points that are moving on the Peninsula and beyond29:16 Whether James's clients are shifting toward mortgage brokers30:54 A Keystone success story: saving the kitchenless house deal31:17 James's advice to realtors: stop making boring content34:15 James's upcoming appearance on the HGTV style show Oceanfront Property37:33 Bonus round: favourite Halifax cafes and restaurantsResources: Keystone Capital Group CPLP Instagram: @cplpodcast Keystone Instagram: @keycapgroup Find Neal On: Instagram: @neal.andreino LinkedIn: Neal Andreino Find Ryan on: LinkedIn: Ryan MacNeil E-mail: ryan@keycap.ca ENROL IN THE CPL NEWSLETTER: http://eepurl.com/FIKgpXhSbH

  3. Sep 16

    Ep.151 | The Weirdest Assets lenders will actually take

    Neal and Ryan are back for a fun one, this time cracking open the strange, sometimes sketchy world of unique lending. Most people think lending means mortgages, car loans, and business lines of credit, but the reality is that almost any asset with real ownership, verifiable value, and a viable exit can be borrowed against. In this episode, the guys walk through the assets that actually get pledged as collateral every day, including stocks, cryptocurrency, fine art, watches, jewelry, wine, classic cars, receivables, inventory, patents, and even goodwill. Along the way, Neal shares his skepticism on some of the market's more inflated corners, Ryan tells the wild true story of a $2 billion art thief who never sold a single piece, and the two get into the mechanics of how ultra wealthy collectors use their assets to unlock liquidity without triggering a tax bill. They wrap with a rapid fire round on what they would personally lend against, and the one form of collateral that keeps them both up at night. Show Notes 00:00 Cold open and podcast intro00:13 Neal's ongoing sleep struggle and watching his friends survive new parenthood02:24 Setting up the topic: what makes something good collateral04:34 Lending against stocks and investment portfolios05:19 How banks offer 100% leverage on certain investment products06:27 Would you rather lend on a diversified portfolio or a house?08:02 Lending against cryptocurrency and the volatility problem10:24 Fine art as collateral and the fraud risks behind valuations12:58 Ryan tells the true story of The Art Thief and $2 billion in stolen art15:07 Watches, jewelry, and gold: how influencers actually finance those Rolexes17:14 A private lending story: taking a Rolex as second mortgage collateral18:34 Fine wine as an investment grade asset class20:15 Classic cars and the case for and against a $50 million Ferrari24:03 Accounts receivable lending and invoice factoring25:24 How commission factoring works in real estate26:21 What makes good collateral: the five questions to ask every time28:11 Rapid fire: what would you actually lend against?32:22 Why goodwill and government down payment programs are quietly high risk33:29 Closing thoughtsResources: Keystone Capital Group CPLP Instagram: @cplpodcast Keystone Instagram: @keycapgroup Find Neal On: Instagram: @neal.andreino LinkedIn: Neal Andreino Find Ryan on: LinkedIn: Ryan MacNeil E-mail: ryan@keycap.ca ENROL IN THE CPL NEWSLETTER: http://eepurl.com/FIKgpXhSbH

  4. Sep 9

    Ep.150 | RBC and BMO Just Sold Moneris to US Private Equity. Should Canadians Be Worried?

    Neal and Ryan hit a big milestone with Episode 150, and they're marking it with one of their most globally minded conversations yet. They kick things off with two massive Canadian deals that just crossed the wire: RBC and BMO offloading Moneris, one of the country's most important payment processors, to US private equity for $2 billion, and Air Canada selling a 25% stake in Aeroplan to Blackstone at a $10 billion valuation. The guys dig into what these deals actually mean for competition, consumer choice, and the quiet devaluation of your loyalty points. From there, they zoom out to the main topic: private credit as a global asset class. Now worth over $2 trillion, private credit looks very different depending on where you are in the world. Neal and Ryan walk through how the US, Europe, Asia Pacific, Australia, and Canada each carved out their own version of it, why Canada's market is heavily tilted toward real estate, and where the sector may be headed next. They close with a sharp take on why Canada is unlikely to ever mirror the US model, and why that might actually be a good thing for disciplined lenders. Show Notes 00:35 Episode 150 milestone and Neal's kiteboarding recap02:15 Setting up the main topic: private credit as a global asset class02:24 The Moneris sale and what it says about Canadian competition04:03 Why the real problem is concentration, not the buyer05:20 The Canadian monopoly problem: banking, telecom, and payments06:08 Air Canada sells 25% of Aeroplan to Blackstone at a $10B valuation08:07 Why loyalty programs are often worth more than the airlines themselves09:00 How private equity ownership could accelerate points devaluation10:05 The hidden business of loyalty: companies buying points in bulk10:29 What is private credit? The categories that make up a $2T market11:45 How the US came to dominate 65% of the global private credit market13:56 Europe: infrastructure, renewables, and cross-border lending17:15 Spotlight: United Wholesale Mortgage and the US private lending giants17:35 Asia Pacific: Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, and India19:07 Canada's role: filling gaps rather than replacing banks20:05 Why Canadian private credit is structured around real estate21:31 Canada vs the US: mortgage-focused vs corporate-focused lending22:08 Is Canadian lending really conservative? A different view on debt loads24:08 Global trends: institutional capital, tech, higher rates, retail access26:21 Where private credit is heading and Canada's real opportunityResources: Keystone Capital Group CPLP Instagram: @cplpodcast Keystone Instagram: @keycapgroup Find Neal On: Instagram: @neal.andreino LinkedIn: Neal Andreino Find Ryan on: LinkedIn: Ryan MacNeil E-mail: ryan@keycap.ca ENROL IN THE CPL NEWSLETTER: http://eepurl.com/FIKgpXhSbH

  5. Sep 2

    Ep.149 | Rising Broker Share, and Why Nvidia is Now Lending on Chips

    Neal and Ryan are back with a solo news roundup episode covering the biggest stories moving Canadian real estate, lending, and beyond. They kick things off with a wild data point out of Halifax: a brand new 291-unit downtown tower is sitting at just 20% leased, and what that could signal about vacancy risk creeping into REIT-owned portfolios across the country. Then they dig into new Mortgage Professionals Canada data showing broker share is climbing fast, hitting 38% overall and 48% among first-time buyers, with Quebec and Alberta leading the way and Atlantic Canada still lagging behind. From there, the guys pivot into a very different conversation: Nvidia has struck deals with major investment firms to borrow against its chip inventory, and Neal shares his theory on why tech could become the next major asset class for lending (with a bonus Taiwan conspiracy thrown in). They wrap with a quick take on Mortgage Automator's acquisition of Lendr, why AI is starting to disrupt the legal tech stack, and a preview of who's coming on the pod next. Show Chapters: 00:00 Cold open: broker share, tech lending, and Neal's electrolyte comeback01:00 Catching up: biking, Portugal, kitesurfing in Brazil, and Costa Rica villa recs04:12 The 291-unit Halifax tower that's only 20% leased07:55 Overbuilt on multifamily, undersupplied on single family09:58 Nova Scotia officially shifts into a balanced housing market10:14 Why sellers are finally starting to concede on price11:12 The ego problem in Canadian real estate12:26 MPC data: broker share hits 38% overall, 48% with first-time buyers13:29 Why younger buyers are ditching the bank branch experience15:16 Continuity of service: why the broker relationship wins long term16:32 Regional breakdown: Quebec, Alberta, Ontario, BC, and Atlantic Canada19:22 How the UK compares and what it would take to close the gap20:38 The education problem holding broker share back22:13 Nvidia is now lending against chip inventory23:32 Is tech becoming a viable asset class to lend on?26:03 Neal's Taiwan conspiracy and the coming tech inflation cycle28:28 Would you finance a phone on a 5 year loan?29:51 The future of wearables, headsets, and brain implants31:11 Mortgage Automator acquires Lendr in a major US play31:43 Will firms start building their own AI tech stacks?32:52 Preview: Jason Alexander of Automator coming on the podResources: Keystone Capital Group CPLP Instagram: @cplpodcast Keystone Instagram: @keycapgroup Find Neal On: Instagram: @neal.andreino LinkedIn: Neal Andreino Find Ryan on: LinkedIn: Ryan MacNeil E-mail: ryan@keycap.ca ENROL IN THE CPL NEWSLETTER: http://eepurl.com/FIKgpXhSbH

  6. Aug 26

    Ep.148 | From 7 Employees to 400. Now He's Coming for the GTA Private Lending Market

    In this episode, Neal and Ryan sit down with Arees Jiwani, President of TM Investments. Arees walks us through his journey from the Ivey Business School to helping build one of Canada's most rapidly growing financial services groups, going from seven employees to over 400 in a decade. We dig into RFA's acquisition of Street Capital, the launch of TM Investments in 2024, and the group's unique capital structure backed by long-term institutional investors and a wealth management arm based in the Cayman Islands. Arees shares why permanent capital is the name of the game in today's private lending market, how TM Investments approaches AA and AAA deals in the competitive GTA space, and where he sees the biggest opportunity hiding in plain sight: the $3 to $4 million home segment in prominent Toronto neighbourhoods. We also cover bridge financing, blanket mortgages, creative deal structuring, and TM's ambitious plans to scale well beyond the $300M mark. Show Notes 00:00 Hosts' recap: big goals, permanent capital, and competitive GTA pricing01:30 Interview begins with Arees Jiwani02:13 From the Ivey Business School to RFA: the origin story04:00 RFA's growth story, from 7 employees to 400 in a decade05:39 The three gaps in the private market TM Investments was built to fill08:45 Breaking down the capital and infrastructure gaps in more detail09:44 Inside the Cayman Islands wealth management operation (Five Continents)12:06 The 20+ year investor relationships that anchor RFA13:09 The RFA and Artis REIT merger and TSX listing15:30 How TM Investments establishes truly permanent capital18:31 Why the LP structure won out over the MIC19:31 A walk through the RFA verticals20:55 Ideal borrower profile: business-for-self and bridge financing23:49 Underwriting the exit on bridge deals24:53 The case for blanket mortgages in today's market27:02 Beyond pricing: the step-up rate structure that wins deals30:22 Average mortgage term and payout timing32:05 The hidden opportunity in $3 to $4 million GTA homes37:14 Scale on their terms: the 3 to 5 year vision41:09 Opportunistic capital in a shrinking market42:56 Acquisitions as part of the growth playbook43:31 Bonus question: Flames or Leafs?45:11 Restaurant recommendations in Toronto and CalgaryResources: Keystone Capital Group CPLP Instagram: @cplpodcast Keystone Instagram: @keycapgroup Find Neal On: Instagram: @neal.andreino LinkedIn: Neal Andreino Find Ryan on: LinkedIn: Ryan MacNeil E-mail: ryan@keycap.ca ENROL IN THE CPL NEWSLETTER: http://eepurl.com/FIKgpXhSbH

  7. Aug 19

    Ep.147 | The Truth About How Car Dealers Actually Make Money

    Neal and Ryan step away from mortgages to tackle a topic Neal has been waiting three years to talk about: cars. In this episode, they pull back the curtain on how Canadian car dealerships actually make their money and spoiler, it's not from the sticker price. From lender commissions and rate markups to negative equity, money factors, and 8-year amortizations, the guys break down every trick, tactic, and hidden margin baked into the modern auto financing process. They also compare Canada's auto lending environment to the U.S., U.K., and Australia (where regulators have already cracked down on dealer commission structures), talk about subprime auto lending, and dig into why the industry might be heading toward its own reckoning. Neal wraps things up with a bonus breakdown of the open-end lease structure he personally uses to finance his own vehicles, plus practical tips for using AI tools like ChatGPT to negotiate your next deal. Whether you're buying, leasing, or just trying not to get taken for a ride, this one's packed with insight and a healthy dose of frustration from a genuine car lover. Show Notes: 00:00 - Intro: Neal finally gets to talk cars01:31 - Where dealers really make their money (hint: it's not the car)02:47 - Why financing is always left to the end of the conversation04:21 - The big question: is the dealer finding you the best loan, or the most profitable one?04:53 - What is a "money factor" and why isn't it a legal APR?06:04 - How Canadian dealer financing actually works (banks, credit unions, captive lenders)07:31 - The subprime auto lending world and why it's different from private mortgages08:48 - Lender commissions, rate markups, and how dealers stack margin10:04 -The bait-and-switch: approved at 4.99, sold at 6.9912:11 - Warranties, GAP, tire and rim protection and who actually claims them13:08 - 0% financing decoded: the price is baked in14:24 - Negative equity, 8-year loans, and the coming auto lending Netflix special17:11 - How Canada compares to the U.S., U.K., and Australia19:36 - Consumer protection in Canada and the cooling-off period question22:48 - The must-ask questions before signing any auto loan23:22 - The rise of vehicle brokers who negotiate on your behalf24:20 - Bonus: Neal breaks down the open-end lease strategy he uses on his own cars27:20 - Key takeaways for your next vehicle purchase28:01 - Using ChatGPT as your negotiation copilot28:57 - Final thought: the number that actually mattersResources: Keystone Capital Group CPLP Instagram: @cplpodcast Keystone Instagram: @keycapgroup Find Neal On: Instagram: @neal.andreino LinkedIn: Neal Andreino Find Ryan on: LinkedIn: Ryan MacNeil E-mail: ryan@keycap.ca ENROL IN THE CPL NEWSLETTER: http://eepurl.com/FIKgpXhSbH

  8. Aug 12

    Ep.146 | From Working at a Brewery to Running a $470 Million MIC - Greg Sinclair

    Greg Sinclair did not take a straight line into private lending. He went from teaching school in Ontario and the UK, to selling beer on the night shift at a local brewery, to building out the sales and marketing function for the Peterborough Petes in the OHL, to joining Magenta Capital when Covid shut down the sports world. He is now COO of one of the longest-standing MICs in Canada, a company founded out of a basement in 1994 that now manages $470 million in residential mortgages across Ontario. Ryan and Neal sit down with Greg to talk through what has kept Magenta disciplined for 32 years, why they built a $470 million book with zero commercial, zero construction, and never leaving Ontario, and what drove the decision to finally enter the GTA a year and a half ago. They also get into Greg's read on where the Canadian real estate market sits right now, why condos are likely still a couple of years from recovery, what AI actually looks like inside a private lender's operations, and why tightening bank regulation keeps sending better and better borrowers into the alt space. Plus career advice for anyone trying to break into the mortgage world, and some honest Leafs talk to close it out. Show Chapters: 2:07 Meet Greg Sinclair, COO at Magenta Capital  2:47 From Teacher to Brewery to OHL Analytics  7:21 Landing the Peterborough Petes Job  10:25 How Covid Led Greg to Magenta Capital  11:09 32 Years and $470M: How Magenta Got Here  13:36 The Decision to Enter the GTA  16:57 $470M AUM on 1,000 Residential Loans  17:19 Magenta's Products and Lending Parameters  22:38 Looking Three Years Ahead: What Magenta Is Building  24:29 Market Outlook: Near the Bottom or In It?  26:20 Atlantic vs Ontario: Two Very Different Stories  30:39 AI as an Accelerant, Not a Replacement  33:40 Why Alt Lenders Keep Taking Market Share  36:16 The Biggest Risk for MICs Right Now  38:44 Career Advice for Mortgage Professionals Resources: Keystone Capital Group CPLP Instagram: @cplpodcast Keystone Instagram: @keycapgroup Find Neal On: Instagram: @neal.andreino LinkedIn: Neal Andreino Find Ryan on: LinkedIn: Ryan MacNeil E-mail: ryan@keycap.ca ENROL IN THE CPL NEWSLETTER: http://eepurl.com/FIKgpXhSbH

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The #1 Podcast on Private Mortgage Lending in Canada. Ryan MacNeil and Neal Andreino of Keystone Capital Group outline their private mortgage lending experience and help you grow your mortgage business, while focusing on the importance of the growing Canadian Mortgage Broker channel. 

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