Big Law Life

Laura Terrell

On Big Law Life, Laura Terrell and her guests discuss the strategies, steps, relationships and communications you need to navigate the world of large global and national law firms, from the perspective of lawyers, business and legal professionals, in-house counsel, and others with experience working in and around this environment. Laura dives into what you want to know about BigLaw but didn't learn in law school and what wasn't covered in your law firm orientation. To learn more about how she works with attorneys and to access her blog and resources, go to www.lauraterrell.com

  1. #112: A Few of the Unwritten Rules of BigLaw

    1D AGO

    #112: A Few of the Unwritten Rules of BigLaw

    In this episode of Big Law Life, I break down three of the most powerful unwritten systems inside large law firms that every lawyer needs to understand to navigate their career strategically. I share why staffing is one of the main currencies firms use to allocate value; how you can't rely on just on your past successes but always need to be actively refreshing leadership's understanding of what you bring to the firm; and why the culture of a firm, not its policies, is what truly matters. If you want to understand how BigLaw actually operates beyond what its says in manuals, through policies and in written guidance, and how to position yourself for growth, visibility, and long-term success, this episode gives you a clear framework for reading the system and responding strategically. At a Glance 01:20 Why BigLaw runs on unwritten rules, not just formal policies 01:46 Staffing as currency and how lawyers are quietly "traded" 02:11 Why being constantly busy can actually stall advancement 03:06 How becoming the "reliable solution" associate turns into a trap 04:02 Why firms reuse high performers instead of protecting them 04:49 The real difference between being needed and being valued 05:15 Why constant work without development signals optimization, not growth 05:41 How institutional memory fades faster than lawyers expect 06:11 Why BigLaw operates on recency, not career-long performance 07:26 How visibility determines staffing, reviews, and promotion narratives 08:40 Why your firm's story about you is only a snapshot unless you shape it 09:32 How to refresh your value through outcomes, not effort 10:29 Why written policies matter less than real culture 11:22 How knowing culture can impact career trajectories 12:29 What culture actually rewards versus what policies technically allow 13:26 How perceptions form and quietly limit opportunities 14:48 Why smart lawyers study who uses policies safely, not what's permitted 15:34 What BigLaw's unwritten rules are really incentivizing Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life?  Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law.  For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    17 min
  2. #111: Weekend Work in BigLaw: What's Normal, What's Dysfunctional, and What It Signals About Your Firm

    FEB 11

    #111: Weekend Work in BigLaw: What's Normal, What's Dysfunctional, and What It Signals About Your Firm

    If you work in BigLaw, you already expect weekends to be part of the job. But you find that not all weekend work is created equal. In this episode, I walk through the difference between healthy, role-appropriate weekend demands and the kind of constant disruption that signals deeper management and culture problems inside a firm. I explain the three traits that define normal weekend work: a real reason tied to client reality, a clearly scoped task, and a true endpoint. We then unpack what dysfunctional weekend work looks like in practice, including poor planning disguised as urgency, perpetual low-grade emergencies, and being kept mentally on call even when no real deadline exists.  I break down how these patterns show up differently in transactional versus litigation practices and why weekend culture is one of the strongest predictors of burnout and reactive exits. Finally, I share concrete strategies for setting boundaries that actually work in BigLaw by shaping timelines, preempting chaos earlier in the week, and using seniority to delegate rather than absorb endless work. At a Glance 01:20 Why the real issue isn't working weekends but how and how often 02:09 The three traits that define normal weekend work in BigLaw 02:41 Why real deadlines feel different from anxiety-driven urgency 03:10 How scoped tasks and clear endpoints protect your time and sanity 04:03 How poor planning gets passed down as "emergencies" 05:16 What perpetual urgency without deadlines actually signals 05:46 When firms stop buying labor and start renting your nervous system 06:13 Why constant weekend work becomes a structural problem 06:38 How weekend chaos at senior levels signals stagnation, not growth 07:11 How transactional and litigation practices show dysfunction differently 08:25 Why weekend culture predicts burnout and rushed exits 09:35 The clear difference between purposeful intensity and endless chaos 10:24 Why the goal isn't fewer weekends but fewer bad weekends 10:51 How structured availability reshapes expectations without backlash 11:21 How anticipatory communication prevents most weekend emergencies 12:22 Why reliability during real crises earns boundary credibility 12:53 How delegation becomes the senior lawyer's real boundary tool 13:17 How to read firm reactions to boundaries as cultural data Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life?  Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law.  For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    15 min
  3. #110: How the Cravath Scale Actually Works in BigLaw for Mid- and Senior-Level Associates

    FEB 4

    #110: How the Cravath Scale Actually Works in BigLaw for Mid- and Senior-Level Associates

    By the time you reach mid-level or senior associate status, the Cravath Scale often stops feeling like a promise and more like a moving target. In this episode, I break down what the scale actually governs, what it never covered, and how discretion quietly replaces transparency as you become more experienced. I explain why base salary uniformity masks wide variation in bonuses, timing, and opportunity, and how firms use the language of "market" and "culture" to justify outcomes that feel inconsistent year to year and group to group. We walk through concrete bonus scenarios, how hour thresholds quietly drift upward, and why performance reviews are comparative rather than absolute.  I also unpack the role of discretionary and special bonuses, including when they signal genuine investment versus when they function as golden handcuffs. Finally, I explain why salary compression at the senior level is structural, not accidental, and how to assess whether staying on scale still makes sense given your responsibilities, leverage, and future prospects. At a Glance 01:20 Why the Cravath Scale feels predictable early and flexible later 02:37 What the scale actually standardizes and what it never promised 03:35 How discretion replaces transparency for mid- and senior-level associates 04:02 Why bonuses are the first place cracks appear 04:32 How billable hour thresholds quietly move beyond the stated minimum 05:43 Why performance ratings are comparative, not absolute 06:31 How practice group and firm overlays affect identical profiles differently 07:53 How firms "shade around" the scale without openly breaking from it 09:41 When bonuses become forward-looking signals, not rewards 10:42 How to tell reward bonuses from golden handcuffs 12:22 Why senior-level salary compression is structural 13:22 Why waiting without clarity is no longer neutral 14:16 How comp reveals if the firm sees a future partner or a long-term senior associate 14:47 How to assess your effective compensation and leverage over time 15:47 The real question long-tenured associates need to ask themselves Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life?  Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law.  For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    17 min
  4. #109: When You Were Assured of BigLaw Partnership This Year But It Didn't Happen

    JAN 28

    #109: When You Were Assured of BigLaw Partnership This Year But It Didn't Happen

    Being told you ready for partnership creates expectations that are hard to unlearn. In this episode, I walk through what it really means when you are encouraged, guided, and perhaps even implicitly promised by firm leadership, only to be told at the end of the cycle that you did not make partner. This is not just a professional disappointment. It often feels like a betrayal of an assumed agreement, especially when you followed the roadmap you were given and told if you followed that this was your year. I explain why this situation is far more common in BigLaw than firms admit, including how headcount, internal politics, profitability pressures, and decision-making power can quietly override performance. I unpack why encouragement is not the same as influence, why firms often avoid hard truths during partnership conversations, and how vague feedback keeps lawyers stuck in uncertainty. I also outline how to approach post-decision conversations strategically, what questions actually surface usable information, and how to distinguish between fixable gaps, moving goalposts, and structural ceilings in determining whether you actually make partnership at your firm. At a Glance 01:20 What it means to be "in consideration" for partnership 02:08 Why doing exactly what you were told would mean partnership can still mean "no" 03:01 Why missing partnership feels like a broken narrative, not just rejection 04:23 How reliance on firm guidance costs lawyers optionality and time 05:29 Why encouragement is not the same as decision-making power 06:18 How firms avoid hard truths through vague feedback 07:21 How to prepare for partnership conversations without burning bridges 07:48 Why post-decision meetings are about information, not catharsis 08:16 The exact process questions that surface real explanations 09:09 How to determine whether issues are fixable or structural 10:21 What a fixable partnership gap actually looks like in practice 11:25 How to recognize when the goalposts are always moving 12:20 What it means to hit a structural ceiling in the firm that may block partnership 14:26 Why quietly exploring external options is rational, not disloyal 16:11 How to reframe not making partner as information, not failure Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life?  Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law.  For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    18 min
  5. #108: Inside Goodwin's Client Immersion Program for Junior Associates with Lynda Galligan and Josh Klatzkin

    JAN 21

    #108: Inside Goodwin's Client Immersion Program for Junior Associates with Lynda Galligan and Josh Klatzkin

    Junior associates in BigLaw often ask for more client exposure early in their careers, but what they really need most is a clearer understanding of how clients actually operate and make decisions. In this episode, I speak with Lynda Galligan and Josh Klatzkin, both members of Goodwin's management and executive committees, and co-chairs of the firm's Business Law Department, about why the firm's early client immersion program for junior associates addresses this key development and training issue. Lynda and Josh explain how traditional BigLaw training can delay meaningful client exposure, why business undersanding is assumed rather than a differentiator, and how understanding of a client's business needs and concerns must be learned. We also discuss how Goodwin's structured training program makes early immersion viable, what clients gain from working with junior lawyers, and how early exposure reshapes the way associates approach client relationships throughout their careers. At a Glance 01:20 Why junior associates ask for more hands-on client experience 02:17 Why traditional BigLaw training can delay better understanding of what juniors need to know about working with clients 02:52 How Goodwin's client immersion program differs from the usual secondments 03:24 Why empathy is a core legal skill that law school cannot teach 06:30 The role of intensive first-year training in preparing juniors for client work 07:31 Why doing excellent legal work is the baseline, not a competitive advantage 08:08 What associates learn by seeing clients as people with careers and pressures 09:52 Why consistent early training matters more than ad hoc learning 11:02 How immersion opportunities are identified and matched 13:35 The criteria clients must meet to participate in the program 15:39 Why clients repeatedly request junior associates after trying the program 16:26 What happens when immersion leads to in-house offers 18:16 How immersion strengthens firm-client relationships in unexpected ways 21:52 Addressing associate concerns about missing firm relationship-building 24:42 How partners evaluate the value of early client immersion 26:27 Why firms may need to rethink associate training more broadly 29:06 How early client exposure builds confidence long before partnership is in view Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life?  Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law.  For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Reach Lynda Galligan: https://www.goodwinlaw.com/en/people/g/galligan-lynda LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynda-galligan-41ab058/  Reach Josh Klatzkin: https://www.goodwinlaw.com/en/people/k/klatzkin-joshua LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-klatzkin-a186022/  Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    32 min
  6. #107: Do You Have to Be a Big Rainmaker to Succeed in BigLaw?

    JAN 14

    #107: Do You Have to Be a Big Rainmaker to Succeed in BigLaw?

    hear this question constantly: do you actually have to be a rainmaker to succeed in BigLaw? The short answer is no, but the longer, more important answer is that success depends on whether your firm truly rewards lawyers who help win, grow, and retain clients without personally originating them.  In this episode, I break down what that looks like in practice. I explain why firms that rely on a handful of star originators are more vulnerable over time, and also why many firms say they value collaboration and the contrbutions of many to major firm clients but quietly reward something very different. I walk through how non-originating lawyers can become force multipliers by expanding existing clients, owning client problems instead of just matters, and positioning themselves as essential to client growth rather than execution alone. I also explain how to diagnose whether your firm will actually promote and reward this type of lawyer by looking at promotion histories, credit allocation practices, compensation structures, and who really holds power inside the firm. This episode is about clarity: understanding what success looks like at your firm before you invest years playing the wrong game. At a Glance 01:20 Why rainmaking dominates BigLaw conversations and why firms still need more than originators 02:39 Why firms dependent on a few rainmakers become vulnerable over time 03:17 How non-rainmakers succeed by acting as force multipliers inside client relationships 03:43 Growing existing clients instead of chasing cold starts 04:22 Becoming the lawyer rainmakers cannot afford to exclude 05:07 Owning client problems, not just discrete matters 06:12 Building internal political capital through client expansion 06:40 Why "supporting" a client is the wrong way to describe your role 07:25 How to articulate leadership and revenue impact without origination credit 07:52 How to assess whether your firm really values non-originating partners 08:16 What to look for in recent partner promotions 09:20 Credit allocation, shared origination, and what collaboration actually looks like 10:42 Warning signs that your firm has a structural ceiling for non-originators 12:26 The non-equity partner tier and what it really means at your firm 13:12 Who holds real power over comp, promotion, and clients 14:07 The core diagnostic question every lawyer should ask about partnership success Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life?  Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law.  For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    15 min
  7. #106: 10 Things BigLaw Attorneys and Business Professionals Should Do in January (But Usually Don't)

    JAN 7

    #106: 10 Things BigLaw Attorneys and Business Professionals Should Do in January (But Usually Don't)

    As the calendar turns, I see the same pattern repeat inside large law firms. We talk about fresh starts, priorities, and strategy, but most people carry the exact same work habits, assumptions, and risks into the new year. And yet the beginning of the calendar year when you can slow the system down just enough to make some key but deliberate decisions before urgency takes over. This episode is not a motivational reset or a list of aspirational goals, but rather some practical actions that can give BigLaw lawyers and business professionals more control over how the year unfolds. I walk through specific decisions that experienced professionals tend to avoid because they require uncomfortable honesty, including: auditing where your time actually went, naming which relationships really matter and which pose risk, deciding what work you are no longer willing to do, and defining what success looks like this year instead of defaulting to growth at all costs. I also talk candidly about replaceability, utilization ceilings, lateral vulnerability, and why clarity around evaluation and compensation mechanics must happen earlier than most people think. If you choose only two or three of these actions and do them well, you can reduce surprises and actively shape the year ahead rather than simply reacting to it. At a Glance 1:20 With a new year, why most BigLaw professionals don't actually change how they operate 02:12 Audit where your time and effort were actually spent last year 03:53 Name your five most important relationships and identify the riskiest one 05:16 Decide what work you are no longer willing to do this year 06:43 Set a personal utilization floor and a sustainable ceiling 08:24 Do an honest assessment of how replaceable you really are internally 10:09 Look at lateral movement and lateral vulnerability around you 11:01 Get clear on when evaluation, compensation, credit, and bonus decisions will be made (and how) 12:34 Define what success means for you this year 13:23 Choose one or two relationships to deepen deliberately 14:47 Let go of a skill you keep forcing that isn't compounding for you 16:14 Why choosing just two or three of these actions can change how the year unfolds Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life?  Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law.  For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    17 min
  8. #105: Cringe-Free BigLaw Goals for Associates in the New Year

    12/31/2025

    #105: Cringe-Free BigLaw Goals for Associates in the New Year

    As the year closes, I'm focusing in this episode on BigLaw goals for associates without resorting to platitudes, firm retreat slogans, or vague resolutions that quietly collapse by February. After years as an equity partner in BigLaw, I've seen that the associates who actually move forward are not the ones making dramatic promises to work less, do everything better, or reinvent themselves overnight. Instead, the associates who most often make progress are the ones who focus on taking smaller, actionable steps in specific, visible ways that compound inside a system that is in many ways beyond their control. In this episode, I walk through what that looks like in practice. We talk about why goals built around staffing, hours, or personality change usually fail, and what BigLaw actually rewards instead: reducing friction for partners, exercising judgment, managing up, and being predictable and reliable in ways that matter. I explain concrete behaviors partners notice when evaluating and promoting associates, including how you frame decisions, communicate risk and timing, and signal judgment without overstepping. This is about learning how to operate more effectively inside BigLaw as it exists, not as we wish it did. At a Glance 00:00 Why BigLaw goal-setting can feel hollow and frustrating - even cringey  01:19 Why extreme "everything must change" thinking misses what actually moves careers 02:40 Why goals tied to things you don't control quietly set you up to fail 03:40 The compounding advantage of getting slightly better in visible ways 04:08 Reducing friction: how partners actually experience working with you 04:29 Anticipation and judgment versus stopping exactly at the four corners of the assignment 05:57 Managing up by framing decisions instead of asking open-ended questions 06:44 Predictability, early flags, and why silence is riskier than bad news 08:00 How BigLaw gives you positive feedback without ever saying "good job" 09:17 Why choosing one key incremental improvement beats trying to fix everything 10:06 The practical bottom line for building momentum year over year For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select "Write a Review." Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven't done so already, follow the podcast here!  For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars. Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her: www.lauraterrell.com  laura@lauraterrell.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/  Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

    11 min
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out of 5
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On Big Law Life, Laura Terrell and her guests discuss the strategies, steps, relationships and communications you need to navigate the world of large global and national law firms, from the perspective of lawyers, business and legal professionals, in-house counsel, and others with experience working in and around this environment. Laura dives into what you want to know about BigLaw but didn't learn in law school and what wasn't covered in your law firm orientation. To learn more about how she works with attorneys and to access her blog and resources, go to www.lauraterrell.com

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