Training for Life

Sarah Gilks and Tanna Payne

Join Healthy Role Models founder, Sarah Gilks, and Master Trainer/Elite Olympic Weight Lifter Tanna Payne, in the 'Training for Life' podcast. With a combined 5 decades in health, fitness and training women of all ages, they share candid conversations with you from the peaks and valleys of their lived experiences. Their goal? Laughter, inspiration, and guiding you towards becoming the healthiest and happiest version of you. www.healthyrolemodels.com @healthyrolemodels

  1. 1d ago

    What are you training for? Find your WHY.

    Sarah and Tanna trace the wildly different reasons that first got them moving, and how those reasons have transformed over decades. Sarah's why started with fitting into size 27 jeans. Tanna's was chasing world championships. Neither one still applies today, and that's exactly the point of this episode. From Jeans to Role Model to Something Bigger Sarah walks through her own evolution: appearance-focused in her younger years, then shifting to being a role model for her kids as Healthy Role Models grew, and now at 51, thinking about what she wants her life to look like at 80. Tanna shares a parallel arc, from being laser focused on competition results, to feeling lost when she retired from competing, to eventually finding her footing again around strength and performance rather than outcome. Why Your Why Actually Matters They get honest about the days when motivation disappears entirely ~ bad weather, exhaustion, zero visible progress. A why that's bigger than a jean size or a single goal is what keeps you anchored on those days. An outcome-only why also has an expiration date: what happens once you hit the number on the scale or the size in the closet? The Five Whys Exercise Sarah and Tanna teach a simple way to dig past the surface-level answer. Start with something like "I want to lose weight," then keep asking why until the answer makes you feel something. The real why is rarely the first one you write down. A Visualization for Getting Clear Tanna leads a short visualization: picture yourself 10, 20, or 30 years from now. Where are you, what are you physically able to do, who's around you, what do you want to say yes to. Then ask what the person in that picture needs you to start doing today. Your Why Can Be Bigger Than You They close by pointing out that your why doesn't have to be just about you. Partners, kids, grandkids, friends, community all benefit when you're healthy, and being the example that shifts what's normal for someone else can be part of your why too. The Challenge Get honest with yourself about whether your why is actually clear, and if it's shifted without you noticing. Revisit it. Ask why, then why again, then why again, until you land on the answer that actually moves you.

    What are you training for? Find your WHY.
  2. Sep 7

    Why the Fitness Industry Is Designed to Make You Fail...

    The fitness industry has a dirty secret: it's not designed for you to succeed long-term. It's designed for you to come back. Sarah and Tanna pull apart the marketing machine behind "bikini body," 30-day challenges, and extreme transformation programs ~ and why the pattern is always the same: unsustainable intensity, a short window, and when you inevitably burn out, the blame lands on you instead of the program. Why "Extreme" Gets Confused With "Effective"Quick transformations are compelling because they hit every psychological trigger we respond to ~ novelty, speed, immediate feedback. But the body doesn't care how motivated you were for two months; it cares whether the habit can repeat for ten years. Sarah and Tanna break down why more isn't always better, and why the real question isn't "will this get me results" but "can I still be doing this in five years." Comparing Yourself to the Wrong PeopleHalf the influencers setting the fitness standard are decades younger, with different hormones, different responsibilities, and a completely different season of life. Sarah and Tanna talk about why that comparison is not just unfair, it's mathematically impossible to win. Big Box Gyms vs. Real SupportAccess to equipment isn't the same as access to support. Sarah and Tanna unpack what's actually missing in the walk-in-alone, walk-out-alone gym model ~ and why nobody noticing when you don't show up is a bigger problem than most people realize. What Actually WorksThoughtful progression. Sustainable habits. Consistency with flexibility. Belonging to a community that doesn't have a finish line. Sarah and Tanna lay out the alternative to the crash-and-burn model, including why "continuing strong" beats "finishing strong" every time. The Real TestBefore starting any program, ask yourself: not just "will this get me results," but "what is this teaching me, and can I see myself still doing it five years from now?"

    Why the Fitness Industry Is Designed to Make You Fail...
  3. Aug 31

    The September Effect: Why We Feel Ready to Begin Again

    September isn't just back to school, it's a psychological fresh start. Sarah and Tanna break down the "fresh start effect," why four months is plenty of time to become who you want to be by January, and how to build anchor habits that actually stick, no extreme resets required. Why September Hits Different Sarah and Tanna kick things off with why September feels like such a natural turning point, cooler air, changing colors, and a return to routine after a looser summer. Turns out there's real psychology behind it: it's called the fresh start effect, a well-documented tendency to feel motivated to change behavior around temporal landmarks, new seasons, new semesters, new years. Four Months Is a Lot of Runway Rather than waiting for January 1st, Sarah and Tanna reframe September through December as a full quarter of the year, enough time to walk into the new year already living as the person you want to be. No countdown, no pressure, just consistent action starting now. Building Habits That Actually Hold The conversation moves into practical anchor habits: strength training a few times a week, a daily walk, a consistent bedtime, a Sunday planning ritual. The throughline is small and repeatable beats big and unsustainable. They also talk about scheduling health like any other non-negotiable appointment, on the calendar, protected, not left to chance. Avoiding the September Burnout Trap Sarah and Tanna call out the temptation to go "all in", cutting everything at once, overhauling the whole routine overnight, and why that pattern almost always ends in burnout by mid-month. The better approach: pick one or two anchor habits, build consistency there first, then layer on more. Getting Real About What Level Up Looks Like Right Now Both hosts get personal about where they're at. Sarah shares navigating loss and a family health scare over the summer, and how leaning into healthy coping habits helped her reset. Tanna gets honest about her go-to coping pattern of withdrawing and shutting down, and the two specific habits she's recommitting to this fall, reframing workouts from "have to" to "get to," and practicing an earlier wake-up time. Your Invitation The episode closes with a direct challenge: pick one ritual to recommit to or level up this month. Write it down, put it on the calendar, tell someone who'll hold you accountable. Fresh start doesn't mean starting over, sometimes it means building on what's already working.

    The September Effect: Why We Feel Ready to Begin Again
  4. Aug 14

    The Little Things... How Sarah and Alec Keep Their Marriage Strong

    Tanna's away this week, so Sarah and Alec take the mic for something a little different, an honest, unscripted look at the small daily habits that keep their marriage strong. From alternating dinner nights to daily dog walks, this is a real conversation about the little things that build something lasting. The Little Things... How Sarah and Alec Keep Their Marriage Strong This week, Tanna hands the mic to Sarah and her husband Alec for a rare, unscripted conversation. They're not relationship experts, and they say so up front ~ but eight years into marriage, they've learned that the same principle behind a healthy lifestyle applies to a healthy relationship: it's not the big grand gestures that matter most, it's the small habits, repeated daily, that stack into something extraordinary. Alternating dinner nightsSarah shares how splitting cooking duty night to night frees up mental load she didn't even realize she was carrying, no more wondering what's for dinner, no more tracking groceries, on the nights it's not her turn. A deliberate practice of appreciationAlec makes it a point to say "I love you" every single day, even on hard days, calling it an intentional gratitude practice rather than something that just happens on its own. The daily dog walkWhether it's 30 minutes or an hour, walking side by side (not face to face) turns out to be one of their best tools for having harder conversations without the confrontation that comes with sitting across a table. Working out and doing hard things togetherFrom gym sessions to a humbling, underprepared hike up a Colorado 14er, Sarah and Alec talk about how tackling difficult physical challenges together builds a different kind of closeness than doing them apart. Supporting each other's separate pursuitsNot everything has to be shared. They talk honestly about learning to cheer each other on in individual goals, and how growth in one partner, instead of creating distance, can bring new energy into the relationship. The takeawaySarah and Alec close with a simple challenge for listeners: pick one small, sustainable habit to start this week. A walk. A shared meal. A conversation you've been putting off. The little things, done consistently, are what you'll remember most.

  5. Jul 23

    The Problem with Today's Normal

    Your Normal Isn't an Accident, It's a Choice Sarah and Tanna open with an uncomfortable truth: exhaustion, poor sleep, sitting all day, and grabbing whatever's fast and convenient have all quietly become "normal." Not because they're good for us, but because they're everywhere. This episode is about what happens when you stop accepting that default and start choosing your own. The Data Behind the Default Sarah shares two stats that frame the conversation: 68% of Canadian adults now fall into the overweight or obesity category, and 45% of calories consumed by Canadian adults come from ultra-processed foods. Movement has quietly become optional too ~ grocery pickup, e-bikes, elevators, VR headsets standing in for the real thing. Why Taking Care of Yourself Gets Called "Obsessive" They talk through why simple things like eating vegetables, packing lunch, or strength training 30 minutes a day can start to feel extreme. The honest answer: because visible effort isn't common anymore, so it gets mistaken for obsession instead of recognized as basic upkeep. Three Ways to Reclaim Your Normal Question your definition of normal. Ask yourself if something is healthy or just common, and whether you're doing it because your body wants it or because everyone around you is. Choose your room carefully. Who you spend time with shapes your habits and your standards, so choose people who raise both. Become someone else's new normal. Your habits can be the example that shifts what "normal" looks like for the people around you. The Challenge Notice what you've accepted as normal this week, then ask if it's actually serving your health. As Tanna puts it, the "why" always gets you to the root of it.

  6. Jul 16

    It's Easy for Her

    "She has good genetics." "She doesn't have kids." "She's always been that way." We've all said it ~ and it's a story, not a fact. In this episode, Sarah and Tanna dig into the excuses we reach for when someone else's results look effortless, and why those excuses feel so good in the moment while quietly keeping us stuck. The Self-Serving BiasJudging someone else's "easy" is more comfortable than sitting with your own guilt. Sarah and Tanna break down why our brains default to comparison, and how it protects our self-esteem while giving us permission to not put in the work. The Iceberg EffectSocial media shows the wheelie, not the hundred falls before it. Tanna shares a story about a dirt bike influencer whose reels make hard things look effortless ~ and what her captions reveal about the practice nobody sees. Identity Over GoalsGrounded in self-determination theory, Sarah explains why "I am someone who prioritizes her health" builds consistency in a way that "I want to lose 20 pounds" never will. Dedication beats motivation, and identity beats intention. Curiosity Over ComparisonInstead of "it's easy for her," Sarah and Tanna offer a swap: "What can I learn from her?" It's a small shift that turns envy into inspiration ~ and inspiration into action. Catch It, Own It, Replace ItThe episode closes with a practical three-step approach: catch yourself in the story, take responsibility instead of blaming someone else, and take one small action toward who you want to be ~ realistic minimums included.

  7. Jul 9

    Every Woman Needs More of THIS! The secret health habit nobody talks about.

    Unplug It...Including You We schedule everything for everyone. The appointments, the activities, the carpools, the calls. But somewhere in all of it, the one thing that would change everything keeps getting bumped. Solo time. In this episode, Sarah and Tanna get real about what it actually looks and feels like when the bucket runs dry, and what it takes to fill it back up. What You'll Hear in This Episode: Lonely vs. Alone...They're Not the Same There's a loneliness epidemic happening right now, and it's worth getting clear on the difference. Loneliness is the absence of meaningful connection. Intentional alone time is something else entirely ~ a nervous system reset, a creativity boost, and a chance to actually hear yourself think. What Happens When You Skip It... Shutting down. Getting edgy. Craving sleep because at least in a dark room the noise stops. Sarah and Tanna share what skipping solo time actually does to them, and it's both honest and very relatable. Why Your Nervous System Is Begging for This The science is real. Intentional alone time lowers stress, builds emotional resilience, restores your social battery, and is directly tied to mental clarity and creativity. When do the best ideas show up? Not at the desk. In the shower. On a hike. Walking with no AirPods in. A Motorcycle, a Rainstorm, and a Full Bucket Tanna just got back from a solo motorcycle trip that got completely rained out, and she came back better than she left. Sometimes figuring it out entirely on your own is exactly the point. It Doesn't Have to Be Extravagant... Five minutes. A walk across the street to the beach. Morning coffee outside before the house wakes up. Even sitting with a song that brings you joy if silence feels like too much right now. Solo time scales to your life. Ideas to start this week: Five to 10-minute walk, no destination Morning coffee outside, slow and quiet Lunch break alone, somewhere away from the noise An evening walk with no podcast, no music Drive in silence (yes, really, try it) Sit in your backyard and just be Something that requires your full attention ~ a ride, a headstand, whatever gets you out of your head Protect It Like You Mean It You protect every appointment for everyone else. This one is yours. Put it in the calendar. Put the phone away. Treat it the way you'd treat something you'd do for someone you love. "Almost everything will work again if you unplug it for a few minutes, including you."

  8. Jul 2

    The Most Powerful Health Lesson You'll Ever Teach Your Kids

    They're Not Listening...They're Watching Your kids aren't listening to what you say about health. They're watching what you do. In this conversation, Sarah and Tanna sit down to talk about the powerful ripple effect of a mom who prioritizes herself. Because "I would die for my kids" is easy. But would you live for them? What Are Your Kids Learning From You? We say "my kids come first", and we mean it. But somewhere in the carpool lanes, the mental load, and the guilt of doing anything for ourselves, moms quietly disappear from their own priority lists. And our kids notice. In this episode, Trainer Tanna and Sarah, founder of Healthy Role Models, dig into one of the most important (and most overlooked) conversations in motherhood: the role you play as a living, breathing health model for your children. Not by lecturing them. Not by enrolling them in every sport. But by showing up for yourself, and letting them see it. What You'll Hear in This Episode: The Gap Between What We Say and What We DoKids absorb everything ~ your habits, your attitude, your mindset. When a mom skips her health, her kids learn that health doesn't matter. When she carves out time for it, even imperfectly, they're building a foundation they'll carry into adulthood, relationships, and their own families. Why "I'm Putting Myself First" Feels Wrong, and a Better Way to Think About ItYou don't have to be at the top of the list. You just have to be on the list. Sarah and Tanna talk about the guilt, the overwhelm, and the shift in mindset that makes all the difference. Practical Strategies for Busy MomsNo, it doesn't have to look like 20 hours of training a week. Sarah and Tanna break down what actually works: Efficient workouts (25–40 minutes, 3x/week) that fit real life Scheduling your workout like every other non-negotiable appointment Working out at lunch, at 8 PM, in your pajamas in the garage...whatever the season of life calls for Bringing your kids into your movement instead of working around them The Ripple Effect Is RealIn the HRM community, they call them ripples. Those photos of toddlers doing burpees next to their moms, little kids flexing in the mirror. Tanna shares the "I'm teaching my girls to flex instead of suck it in" moment. Sarah shares the full-circle story of a son who now loves the gym. These are not accidents. They're the result of years of modeling. Strong Over SkinnySmall habits. Consistent presence. A mom who shows her kids what it looks like to respect her own body and energy. That's the message, and it ripples into how they handle stress, school, relationships, and their own health for the rest of their lives. The Line That Will Stop You Cold"I would die for my kids. But would you live for them?" Yeah. That one lands.

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Join Healthy Role Models founder, Sarah Gilks, and Master Trainer/Elite Olympic Weight Lifter Tanna Payne, in the 'Training for Life' podcast. With a combined 5 decades in health, fitness and training women of all ages, they share candid conversations with you from the peaks and valleys of their lived experiences. Their goal? Laughter, inspiration, and guiding you towards becoming the healthiest and happiest version of you. www.healthyrolemodels.com @healthyrolemodels

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