The Marketing Misfits

The Marketing Misfits

Discussion with the greatest minds in business today in a casual format. Kevin King and Norman Farrar dig into the stories that make up some of the most forward thinking entrepreneurial minds and the pivotal moments along their roads to success. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

  1. 2D AGO

    The Webinar GOAT: The Secret to $100M Webinars | Jason Fladien

    Most people run webinars completely wrong. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with the legendary Jason Fladlien, the man responsible for some of the biggest launches in internet history, including a $57 million webinar and massive 8-figure launches with Iman Gadzhi. Jason breaks down the "Pitch Upfront" strategy, the psychology of delayed gratification, and how he consulted on Alex Hormozi’s $100M book launch. If you want to master the art of selling "one to many" and understand why context is king over content, this masterclass is for you. 🔥 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: - The Upfront Close: Why Jason tells the audience he’s selling to them within the first 5 minutes. - The Hormozi Factor: Inside the strategy behind the $100M 100M Offers book launch. - Affiliate Marketing Secrets: How Jason became the #1 affiliate for ASM, doing $9.8M in a single promotion. - The Power of "Tie Downs": How to anchor value so your audience stays committed to the transformation. - Physical + Digital Hybrids: Why adding physical bonuses (like embroidery machines or Amex-style perks) explodes conversion rates. - Masterminds vs. Mindset: Why your "Zip Code" (setting) matters more than your "Set" (mindset) for scaling to 8 and 9 figures. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits 📌 Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 02:45 - The $1.5M in 2 Minutes 05:30 - $9.8M as a Single Affiliate 08:15 - Why Webinars 11:40 - The "Two Objectives" Opening 15:50 - Working with Iman Gadzhi 20:10 - The "Amex" Bonus Strategy 24:35 - Alex Hormozi’s $100M Launch 29:00 - How to Reframe a Negative Audience 35:45 - Building a Content Team 42:10 - Why Kevin King Paid $35k+ for a Mastermind 48:00 - One to Many 🔗 Resources Mentioned: Jason Fladlien’s Book: One to Many - https://www.amazon.com/One-Many-Secret-Webinar-Success/dp/1544500645 #JasonFladlien #Webinars #MarketingMisfit Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 23m
  2. MAR 4

    The Reason Your Marketing Funnel Sucks (And How to Fix it) | Steve Larsen

    Most entrepreneurs think their funnel is broken. According to Steve Larsen, the real problem usually isn’t the funnel... It’s the hook, positioning, and message. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Steve Larsen (former ClickFunnels CMO and Russell Brunson’s funnel builder) to break down what actually drives leads, conversions, and sales online. They dive deep into the psychology behind hooks, how to position yourself in a “red ocean with a blue offer,” and the exact framework Steve uses to create marketing messages that generate hand-raisers and qualified leads. If you build funnels, run ads, sell online, or create marketing campaigns, this episode gives you a clear blueprint for writing hooks that make people say “tell me more.” This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 0:46 - Welcome to Marketing Misfits 2:50 - Steve Larson and the Capitalist Pig Brand 4:00 - The Origin of "Capitalist Pig" 7:12 - The Five Points of Capitalism 9:49 - Why the US is a Capitalist Society 12:00 - Steve's Experience with ClickFunnels 13:51 - Understanding Sales Funnels 16:59 - The Truth About Internet Marketing 22:23 - Red Ocean, Blue Offer Strategy 24:12 - The Forex Market Analogy 32:09 - Traffic vs. Messaging/Positioning 32:43 - Case Study: Precision Medicine 38:20 - The Offer Hook Formula: Customer Psychology 39:30 - Marketing vs. Content Creation 47:11 - The Five-Step Hook Formula 53:01 - Case Study: Osteoporosis Hook 59:45 - Connecting with Steve Larson What You’ll Learn • Why funnels fail without the right hook • Why most entrepreneurs talk about their offer too early • How to describe a customer’s problem better than they can • Why positioning matters more than traffic • The Red Ocean Blue Offer strategy explained • How competitors actually educate your future customers • Why good marketing acts as both a magnet and a filter • The 5-part hook formula that drives leads About the Guest Steve Larsen Former CMO of ClickFunnels and Russell Brunson’s funnel builder. Steve has built hundreds of funnels, worked with major brands, and now helps entrepreneurs create offers, messaging, and funnels that convert. Website: https://launchforprofit.com About Marketing Misfits: Marketing Misfits features real conversations with entrepreneurs, operators, and marketers who challenge conventional thinking. Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King. New episodes every Tuesday. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 4m
  3. FEB 24

    Direct Mail Isn't Dead (It's Thriving) | Dr. Wilson Zehr

    Everyone thinks direct mail is outdated. Meanwhile, it’s still delivering $12 for every $1 spent, reaching every household in America 6 days a week, and producing engagement rates digital marketers can only dream about. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Dr. Wilson Zehr, founder of Zairmail, to break down why direct mail still works, how it integrates with digital marketing, and how automation is bringing this “old school” channel into the AI era. If you sell online, run e-commerce, build lists, or care about ROI, this episode may completely change how you think about marketing channels. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Chapters: 00:00 Why Direct Mail Wins 03:00 Dragonfish + Email Strategy 03:30 Meet Dr. Wilson Zehr 06:00 Teaching Entrepreneurship 11:20 What Makes Entrepreneurs Win 16:00 How Businesses Get Funded 21:45 Why Direct Mail Isn’t Dead 28:10 $12 For Every $1 30:25 What Mail Does Better 34:55 How Zairmail Works 38:00 Mail Retargeting Explained 42:15 QR Codes + Tracking 45:30 Real Campaign Example 52:00 Using Lists the Right Way 57:00 AI + Direct Mail What You’ll Learn • Why direct mail still produces strong ROI • The real reason mail volumes declined (and why that’s good news) • How direct mail gets a 98% “open rate” • Why email + mail together outperform either alone • How retargeting works with physical mail • How to automate mail campaigns in seconds • How to buy highly targeted mailing lists • Compiled lists vs response lists explained • How to track direct mail with QR codes • How direct mail fuels Amazon ranking • Why most marketers ignore this channel • How AI improves targeting, messaging, and offer strategy • How to integrate mail into a modern marketing stack Why This Matters Now Digital ad costs are rising. Email inboxes are saturated. AI-generated content is everywhere. Direct mail is less competitive than ever and automation tools like Zairmail make it easier than it’s ever been. This isn’t about replacing digital. It’s about adding a channel most competitors ignore. Guest Dr. Wilson Zehr Founder, Zairmail Automated direct mail software platform Website: https://zairmail.com About Marketing Misfits Marketing Misfits features real conversations with founders, operators, and marketers who build and scale businesses using unconventional strategies. Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King. New episodes every Tuesday. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 10m
  4. FEB 17

    The New AI-SEO Playbook: Dominate AI Search Results in 2026 | Tracy Graziani

    In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Tracy Graziani, founder of Green Fire Strategy, to break down why companies stall after early traction, why “hypergrowth” can actually be dangerous, and how the best teams scale through process, empathy, and consistency, not rockstar hires. Tracy explains how real growth comes from aligning sales, marketing, and service into one seamless customer experience, and why most companies don’t have a strategy at all, they have a list of tactics. They also dive deep into the biggest shift happening right now: AI is creating more content than ever, but most of it is junk. The brands that win next will be the ones who use AI for analysis and insight, not just generation. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfitsChapters 00:00 AI SEO Playbook Intro 04:42 Meet Tracy Graziani 08:33 Focus on What Works 12:29 Team Performance 16:34 Learning Mindset 20:38 Process Tangibility 25:18 Pain Points & Promise 30:22 AI Content Quality 34:09 Customer Pain Points 40:33 AI Streamlines Research 44:24 Consistent AEO Themes 48:04 Strong Opinions Work 53:24 CRM Automation Power 57:13 Growth Plan Strategy ️ 01:02:08 Customer Service Role 01:06:08 Marketing Misfits ️ This episode covers: - Why “SEO is dead” has been said since 1996 - What AI is actually changing in marketing - Why AEO experts are mostly guessing - Why process beats personality - Why competent teams outperform outlier hires - Why retention and service are the real growth levers - How to do persona research the right way - How AI tools like NotebookLM change research forever - What content still works in 2026 If you’re building a business, scaling a team, or trying to future-proof your marketing for AI search, this is one of the most practical episodes you’ll hear. Guest Tracy Graziani Founder, Green Fire Strategy (Cleveland, Ohio) Website: greenfirestrategy.com LinkedIn: Tracy Graziani Topics Covered - Systems and SOPs that actually get used - Good growth vs bad growth - Why churn kills scaling - Sales process vs rockstar salespeople - Persona research and customer interviews - AI content “slop” and why quality wins - What SEO tactics stop working - What content wins in AI search - Original research, opinions, and POV content - HubSpot explained in plain English - Why most companies don’t have a strategy Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 8m
  5. FEB 10

    How a Joke Turned Into a Cigar Empire... | Brandon Wells

    Some of the best business ideas don’t come from a boardroom. They come from a slow conversation, a shared experience, and a product that forces you to sit down and actually talk. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Brandon Wells (aka Cigar Mechanic) to break down what a cigar broker actually does, how cigar brands grow without in-house reps, and why the cigar industry is still one of the most relationship-driven markets left. Brandon explains how he accidentally turned an Instagram handle into a real business, how cigar manufacturers choose between brokers vs in-house reps, and why “story” sells more than packaging in premium categories. This is also a surprisingly practical episode for anyone in e-commerce, DTC, or brand building, because the cigar world exposes a truth most modern marketers ignore: People don’t buy products. They buy the experience behind them. What You’ll Learn - What a cigar broker actually does - The 3 ways cigar brands sell - Why relationships beat packaging - How Brandon built Cigar Mechanic - The key question he asks brands - Why cigar lounges are loss leaders - What most cigar shops do wrong - How placement drives sales - Why limited releases fail - The real “cigar culture” advantage - The surprising psychology of memory + products - Why the cigar industry is behind in marketing - How demographics really work in cigars - Why value is personal (even at $300) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Timestamps: 00:00 What Is a Cigar Broker? 03:54 Meet Brandon Wells 05:07 How Cigar Mechanic Started 06:41 The “God Moment” 08:43 Cigar Broker Explained 09:28 3 Ways Brands Sell 12:30 Brandon’s Territory Strategy 13:44 The Interview Filter 15:59 The Million-Dollar Question 18:12 The Worst Cigar Lesson 23:11 Story Beats the Product 28:12 The Cigar Culture Effect 33:49 Why Canada Kills Lounges 49:56 How Lounges Make Money Guest: Brandon Wells (Cigar Mechanic) Cigar broker, marketer, and founder Instagram: @cigarmechanic YouTube: Cigar Mechanic YouTube: Voodoo Monkey Garage About Marketing Misfits Marketing Misfits is hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King and features real conversations with operators, founders, and marketers. New episodes every Tuesday. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 13m
  6. FEB 3

    Why You Feel Stuck as an Entrepreneur | James Friel

    Entrepreneurs don’t burn out because they lack ideas. They burn out because they stay stuck doing work they should have left years ago. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with James Friel, founder of 57 Hats, to break down why growing businesses start bleeding time, money, and energy and how founders can systematically escape roles that are holding them back. James Friel explains why most businesses suffer from waste, poor role clarity, weak systems, and misaligned hiring, and why entrepreneurs must treat themselves like temporary “special forces”: build the system, extract yourself, and move on to the next constraint. This is a practical, operator-level conversation about systems, hiring, delegation, performance management, and building businesses that can actually run without you. If you’re wearing too many hats, struggling to hire, or wondering why revenue keeps growing but profits don’t, this episode will feel uncomfortably accurate. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Chapters 00:00 Entrepreneurs Die Inside 01:04 The Spider Prank Story 03:39 Meet James Friel 07:20 Businesses That Are Bleeding 08:32 Value vs Waste Explained 11:01 The Hiring Rollercoaster 12:11 Work Your Strengths 14:09 Know Your Real Profits 16:04 Build Systems First 18:47 The Special Forces Role 21:48 Buy Back Your Time 23:41 The Five Business Pillars 27:26 Agency vs In-House 31:09 Teams Aren’t Families 36:18 Fixing Broken Businesses 48:31 Inside 57 Hats 59:17 Why Letting Go Is Hard What You’ll Learn - Why entrepreneurs “die inside” when they stay stuck too long - The difference between value creation vs waste in a business - When to hire, outsource, or automate (and how to decide) - Why founders should buy back their time aggressively - How to identify $10, $100, $1,000, and $10,000 tasks- - Why most entrepreneurs are bad managers and what to do instead - How to escape the hire–fire roller coaster - Why systems matter more than effort - People, processes, and tools explained clearly - How poor role clarity kills otherwise good teams - Why managing outcomes beats managing tasks - The truth about “we’re a family” culture at work - Why teams must change as businesses grow About the Guest James is a systems-focused operator and the creator of 57 Hats, a hands-on framework and physical product designed to help founders identify which roles they should keep, delegate, or eliminate entirely. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 9m
  7. JAN 27

    The Shopify Mistake That Costs Amazon Sellers Thousands... | Scott Cunningham

    Amazon sellers are waking up to a reality shift. Owning customer data. Building lifetime value. Controlling email, retention, and repeat buyers. And unlocking Shopify’s edge as AI, LLM search, and agentic commerce change how people shop. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Shopify expert Scott Cunningham breaks down why Amazon sellers are moving to Shopify, how to build a real brand instead of chasing products, and how storytelling, hooks, and ad positioning drive sustainable growth. We dive into Shopify vs Amazon, email as an ATM, lifetime value economics, ad testing frameworks, TBIF storytelling, AI-powered copywriting, AEO optimization, and the future of ecommerce discovery through ChatGPT and agentic browsers. If you sell on Amazon, Shopify, TikTok Shop, Walmart, or DTC, this episode gives you a blueprint to build brand equity, retention, and scalable growth. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Chapters 00:00 Why Amazon Sellers Need Shopify 02:29 Shopify vs Amazon Business Models 05:13 Meet Scott Cunningham 07:25 Amazon vs Shopify Mindset Shift 15:08 The Shopify “Scrappy Middle” 16:02 Email as a Revenue Engine 17:09 Why Shopify Beats Other Platforms 20:18 Shopify Apps and Store Flexibility 22:42 Founder Storytelling for Sales 24:07 TBIF Offer Framework 32:25 Ad Testing Like “Omelet Experiments” 34:38 Creative Testing Tools vs Ads 39:52 Meta Ads vs Google Strategy 41:36 AI Search, AEO, and Shopify Advantage 45:03 The Future of AI-Driven Shopping 59:00 Building Community and Retention 1:04:00 Scott’s StorySelling AI Tool 1:07:36 Shopify Growth Takeaways About Marketing Misfits: Marketing Misfits features unfiltered conversations with operators, founders, and marketers who build real businesses through trust, distribution, and execution. Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King. New episodes every Tuesday. Resources & Mentions Scott’s StorySelling AI https://merchantmastery.io/gpt Merchant Mastery Program https://merchantmastery.io Marketing Misfits Podcast https://marketingmisfits.co Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 10m
  8. JAN 20

    Why Most Paid Communities Suck... | Jordan DiPietro

    Most creators focus on attention.The smart ones turn that attention into trust. And trust creates optionality. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Jordan DiPietro to break down how content becomes trust, how trust becomes community, and why the best communities can charge $10,000–$25,000 per year without hurting conversions. Jordan has built at the center of some of the most influential media and community brands in the world. He spent nearly 13 years at The Motley Fool, became CEO of The Hustle before its acquisition by HubSpot, ran HubSpot’s media division, and later served as CEO of Hampton, one of the most exclusive private tech communities. This is a deep, tactical conversation on community design, pricing, trust, vetting, retention, and monetization, not theory. If you’re building a newsletter, podcast, paid community, mastermind, or founder-led brand, this episode gives you the real playbook. What You’ll Learn - Why attention without trust is worthless - The difference between an audience and a community - How The Hustle turned content into leverage - Why newsletters are still one of the strongest trust channels - Content → trust → optionality explained - Community vs mastermind (and why it matters) - How Hampton vetted members and rejected 50–60% of applicants - Why most paid communities fail after launch - The biggest pricing mistakes founders make - How to decide between $1K, $10K, or $25K pricing Guest Jordan DiPietro Former CEO of The Hustle Former Media Lead at HubSpot Former CEO of Hampton Newsletter writer, advisor, and founder coach Website & newsletter:https://jordandipietro.com/ Chapters 00:00 Content Creates Optionality 01:40 Meet Jordan D. Petro 04:24 From Motley Fool to Hustle 08:15 Are Newsletters Saturated? 12:46 Audience vs Community 15:01 Monetizing Trust Correctly 18:56 Community vs Mastermind 20:42 Vetting Members Matters 24:33 How Communities Stay Engaged 27:02 Do You Need IRL Events? 31:32 Why Founders Are the Funnel 33:49 Why Communities Fail 34:42 Pricing a $10K Community 56:38 Growing a Newsletter Long-Term About Marketing Misfits: Marketing Misfits features unfiltered conversations with operators, founders, and marketers who build real businesses through trust, distribution, and execution. Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King. New episodes every Tuesday. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

    1h 5m
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Discussion with the greatest minds in business today in a casual format. Kevin King and Norman Farrar dig into the stories that make up some of the most forward thinking entrepreneurial minds and the pivotal moments along their roads to success. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

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