Talking Tokens

Talking Tokens with Jacquelyn Melinek

Talking Tokens is StrataMedia's flagship podcast and newsletter, delivering two episodes per week to a rapidly growing global audience of crypto-native and traditional finance professionals. We’ve been nominated for multiple awards and have become one of the most-watched crypto podcasts in the market. Hosted by Jacquelyn Melinek, an award-nominated podcaster, founder & CEO of StrataMedia, and former senior crypto reporter at TechCrunch. For more updates, subscribe to the Talking Tokens newsletter here: https://talkingtokens.beehiiv.com/ Follow us on X: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokens

  1. 1d ago

    Why Every Institution Should Be Staking ETH | Kean Gilbert, Lido

    On today's Talking Tokenization, Jacquelyn sits down with Kean Gilbert, Head of Institutional Relations at the Lido Ecosystem Foundation, to talk about how liquid staking is finally breaking into traditional finance.  From the WisdomTree staked ETH ETP in Europe to VanEck's recently filed S-1 for a Lido staked ETF in the US, Kean breaks down why institutions are asking sharper questions than ever before, how depth of liquidity is the single biggest driver behind Lido winning institutional mandates, and why he sees there's no good reason to hold unstaked ETH when you can get the same exposure with 3%. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction to Lido 03:00 Growth of Ethereum Staking and Institutional Interest 05:59 Understanding DAO Structures and Institutional Education 09:05 Tokenization and Its Impact on the Industry 11:58 The Role of Custodians in Institutional Crypto 14:58 Risk Management in Staking and Smart Contracts 17:56 The Role of Staking in Current Markets 19:04 Integration of Staking with Traditional Finance 20:04 Regional Perspectives on Staking Adoption 21:55 Timeline for Global Adoption of Staking 22:22 Market Outlook and Building in Bear Cycles 24:43 ETF Interest and Market Dynamics 25:54 The Importance of Retail in Staking 27:17 Unlocking the Next Wave of Adoption 28:56 Impact of Tokenization on Business Operations 30:41 The Evolution of Institutional Conversations 33:40 Long-Term Thinking in Crypto You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps.  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens  Follow us on X Jacquelyn:   / jacqmelinek    Talking Tokens:   / _talkingtokens    Follow us on Instagram   / _talkingtokens   Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have financial interests in discussed content.

    35 min

  2. 6d ago

    From the Federal Reserve to Circle: What Most People Are Getting Wrong About Onchain Finance | Gordon Liao

    On today's Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Gordon Liao, Chief Economist and Head of Research at Circle, to talk about why traditional financial plumbing is still the biggest bottleneck in money movement globally.  We discuss Arc, Circle's new institutional blockchain, which is being built from the ground up to handle everything from agentic nano payments to quantum-resistant encryption. Gordon believes that Arc being quantum-ready from day one isn't just a nice-to-have but a decision that could define whether the network and its users survives the next decade of security threats. Gordon also breaks down the three things he thinks the market is underestimating right now and how 99.5% of x402 payment protocol volume is already running through Circle’s USDC. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction to Gordon and His Background 02:45 The Future of Onchain Finance 05:56 USDC and Its Market Position 08:54 Agentic Commerce and AI Integration 11:57 The Launch of Arc and Its Vision 15:00 Challenges in Blockchain Adoption 17:55 Privacy and Security in Blockchain 20:57 Quantum Computing and Its Implications 24:10 Market Perspectives and Economic Insights 30:02 Final Thoughts and Advice You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps.  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens  Follow us on X Jacquelyn:   / jacqmelinek    Talking Tokens:   / _talkingtokens    Follow us on Instagram   / _talkingtokens   Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have financial interests in discussed content.

    44 min

  3. Jun 16

    Taking Crypto Mainstream with Nostalgia & Creative Marketing | Dakota Campbell, Collector Crypt

    On today's Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Dakota Campbell, Head of Marketing at Collector Crypt, the platform that generated $165 million in volume in April alone by putting trading cards and physical collectibles onchain with Solana.  Dakota explains the resurgence of physical collecting is what's actually pulling people toward digital ownership, and why Solana's low fees were the thing that finally made tokenizing a five-dollar card make sense after years of the idea being cost-prohibitive on Ethereum. He also dives into how he thinks about marketing to everyday collectors vs crypto audiences, what it took to scale the business over the past few years and expansion beyond trading card games. This episode is a part of the Solana Sessions campaign that Token Relations and the Talking Tokens podcast are doing, diving into founders' journeys and startups building on Solana. Check out the accompanying newsletter on www.token-relations.com  TIMESTAMPS 00:00 The Evolution of Collectibles 02:55 Digital Collectibles and Nostalgia 06:12 Collector Crypt's Success and Market Dynamics 09:02 The Role of Solana in Collector Crypt 12:02 User Experience: Crypto Native vs. Mainstream Collectors 15:14 Marketplace Dynamics and Price Discoverability 17:45 Attracting Non-Crypto Collectors 21:01 Marketing Strategies for Diverse Audiences 25:21 Understanding Audience Engagement 28:41 Navigating Marketing in the Crypto Space 33:34 Expanding Beyond Trading Card Games 37:18 Rapid Fire Insights on Collectibles You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps.  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens  Follow us on X Jacquelyn:   / jacqmelinek    Talking Tokens:   / _talkingtokens    Follow us on Instagram   / _talkingtokens   Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have financial interests in discussed content.

    44 min

  4. Jun 12

    What the Last Decade of Fintech Got Wrong | A Look Into Crypto Neobanks

    On this episode of Strata Research, presented by Talking Tokens & Token Relations, Jacquelyn sits down with Institutional Research Analyst Alex Beaudry to dig into crypto neobanks. Apps are rebuilding what Chime and Revolut did a decade ago, but on stablecoin rails and Alex explains how founders can set themselves up for success. Alex’s insights cover why the float and yield model is both the most lucrative and the hardest to sustain through a bear market, and where the real opportunity sits for anyone watching this space over the next 12 to 24 months. Check out the associated newsletter for more details: https://www.token-relations.com/p/the-neobank-playbook TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction to Crypto Neobanks 02:59 Revenue Models and Market Dynamics 06:02 Challenges and Risks in Crypto Neobanking 08:04 Future Trends and Considerations You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps.  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens  Follow us on X Jacquelyn:   / jacqmelinek    Talking Tokens:   / _talkingtokens    Follow us on Instagram   / _talkingtokens   Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have financial interests in discussed content.

    7 min

  5. Jun 11

    Why Institutional FOMO Is Now the Biggest Force in Crypto | Morgan Krupetsky, Ava Labs

    On today's Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Morgan Krupetsky, VP of Onchain Finance at Ava Labs, to break down where institutional adoption of blockchain actually stands right now.  They discuss why Morgan thinks the industry has officially crossed the chasm from experimental pilots to in-production deployments. Morgan deep dives into the embedded finance stack she's seeing resonate across global markets, why private credit and asset-backed finance are better suited for blockchain rails than equities, and why the deals being announced today were quietly in the works 12 to 18 months ago. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 The Shift in Institutional Crypto Adoption 10:08 Understanding Institutional Strategies 20:22 Tokenization and Its Impact on Financial Markets 30:07 Stablecoins: The Gateway to onchain Finance 40:54 Future Innovations in onchain Finance You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps.  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens  Follow us on X Jacquelyn:   / jacqmelinek    Talking Tokens:   / _talkingtokens    Follow us on Instagram   / _talkingtokens   Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have financial interests in discussed content.

    44 min

  6. Jun 9

    Are Tokenized Stocks the Next Big Catalyst? | Brett Redfearn

    On today's Talking Tokenization, Jacquelyn sits down with Brett Redfearn, President of Securitize and former SEC Director of Trading and Markets, to trace how tokenization has evolved from floor-based trading rooms to onchain capital markets. Brett explains why he thinks we're entering the most transformative market structure shift in 20 years, why tokenized stocks might be the next major frontier, what the SEC's expected innovation exemption could unlock, and why there are conversations happening right now with bulge bracket banks about bringing tokenized IPOs to onchain investors within the next year or two. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Understanding Tokenization 02:44 The Evolution of Capital Markets 05:09 Regulatory Landscape and Innovation 09:11 Institutional Adoption of Tokenization 13:22 Brett's Transition to Leadership at Securitize 16:15 Growth Opportunities for Securitize 20:12 Advice for Traditional Firms Entering Digital Assets 21:56 The Importance of Networking in Crypto Events 24:26 The Shift of Tokenization from Disruption to Integration 27:09 Bridging Traditional Finance and Blockchain 30:07 Understanding the Landscape of Tokenization 32:33 The Future of Tokenized Assets 39:42 Regulatory Perspectives on Tokenization 42:47 Envisioning the Future of Tokenization You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps.  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens  Follow us on X Jacquelyn:   / jacqmelinek    Talking Tokens:   / _talkingtokens    Follow us on Instagram   / _talkingtokens   Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guest may have financial interests in discussed content.

    49 min

  7. Jun 4

    Why Focusing on Tailored Approaches in Emerging Markets is the Move | Torab Torabi

    On today's Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Torab Torabi, CEO of Move Industries, to discuss Movement’s strategic reorientation toward becoming a stablecoin settlement and yield layer for emerging markets.  Torab shares what he learned from sitting down with the Ethiopian president and Ministry of Finance, why governments in these markets don’t want an unchecked flight to dollars, and why he thinks most teams chasing emerging markets with tokenized stocks or T-bill yields are headed straight for a brick wall. Torab also discusses the Movement Network Foundation repurchasing approximately 19% of MOVE tokens previously allocated to investors and what it means for the tokenholders going forward. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction to Move Industries and Torab Torabi 02:07 Evolution of Move Industries and Market Dynamics 05:07 Why the Foundation Bought Tokens Back 08:12 Focus on Emerging Markets and Government Engagement 12:12 Security Concerns in DeFi and User Fund Protection 15:19 Differentiating Markets: Developed vs. Emerging 19:04 Stablecoins and Gold in Emerging Markets 23:09 Sharia Compliance and Financial Products for Emerging Markets 24:30 Tokenization and Emerging Markets 26:24 Understanding Compliance in Financial Products 28:34 The Role of Government in Financial Scalability 31:48 Challenges in Currency Exchange and Adoption 34:09 Key Metrics for Success in Emerging Markets 36:10 Institutional Adoption vs. Emerging Market Focus 40:58 Strategic Reorientation and Future Plans You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps.  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens  Follow us on X Jacquelyn:   / jacqmelinek    Talking Tokens:   / _talkingtokens    Follow us on Instagram   / _talkingtokens   Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have financial interests in discussed content.

    44 min

  8. Jun 2

    What Wall Street Actually Wants from Crypto | Bart Smith & Laine Litman

    On today's Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn sits down with Bart Smith and Laine Litman, CEO and COO of AVAT, the Avalanche Treasury Company, two traditional finance veterans who both spent years watching institutions talk about crypto before finally deciding to go all in themselves.  Bart and Laine get into what makes AVAT different from the pile of treasury companies trying to copy the MicroStrategy model, and why their bet is on giving investors exposure to the whole Avalanche ecosystem rather than just stacking the token. Institutional conversations almost always start as investment discussions and quickly turn into implementation discussions, but the Clarity Act might be the unlock most people aren't paying close enough attention to.  TIMESTAMPS  02:49 From ETFs to Crypto 05:48 Laine's Path from Voice Trading to Blockchain 09:00 Why AVAT Is Not Another MicroStrategy 13:40 The Private Market Problem 14:57 What Institutional Conversations Look Like Right Now 28:43 The Role of Debt Structure in a Bear Market 35:39 AI, Agentic Payments, and What to Watch in 2026 You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps.  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxIQ0NnNUD5eXsSuoZ  Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-tokens/id1743669141 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TalkingTokens  Follow us on X Jacquelyn:   / jacqmelinek    Talking Tokens:   / _talkingtokens    Follow us on Instagram   / _talkingtokens   Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have financial interests in discussed content.

    38 min
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Talking Tokens is StrataMedia's flagship podcast and newsletter, delivering two episodes per week to a rapidly growing global audience of crypto-native and traditional finance professionals. We’ve been nominated for multiple awards and have become one of the most-watched crypto podcasts in the market. Hosted by Jacquelyn Melinek, an award-nominated podcaster, founder & CEO of StrataMedia, and former senior crypto reporter at TechCrunch. For more updates, subscribe to the Talking Tokens newsletter here: https://talkingtokens.beehiiv.com/ Follow us on X: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokens

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  • Creator
    Talking Tokens with Jacquelyn Melinek
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    225
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © Talking Tokens with Jacquelyn Melinek
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