Free Outside

Jeff Garmire

Free Outside is a trail running, ultrarunning, thru-hiking, backpacking, and outdoor adventure podcast hosted by Jeff Garmire. Jeff is an Appalachian Trail record holder, professional endurance athlete, coach, author, and someone who has spent an unreasonable amount of his life running through forests and living out of a backpack. The show features honest and entertaining conversations with elite ultrarunners, record-setting thru-hikers, FKT athletes, coaches, race directors, adventurers, and other fascinating people doing difficult things outside.

  1. 19h ago

    Six Marathon Majors to a First 100 Miler: Cal Calamia on Javelina, Podiums & Pronouns

    Cal Calamia has raced all six World Marathon Majors and run a 2:40, but this weekend he’s running his first 100 miler at Javelina. In the desert, on Halloween, and I get to pace the last loop. I recorded this with Cal the Wednesday before the race. We get into how a road marathoner learns to “make friends with 20 miles,” why running a marathon every weekend would have horrified his old marathon self, his 100 grams of carbs per hour plan, and the Black Canyon 100K where the start got pushed two hours and I had to track down a headlamp mid-race. We also cover something I’ve wanted to talk about for a long time. A lot of people, including my aunt, one of the most open people I know, are nervous to ask about pronouns and trans and nonbinary identities. So I asked Cal, who is trans nonbinary and uses he/they pronouns, what it all means and how to make it approachable in your own life. We talk about why last year, after finishing third overall in the Javelina 100K, Cal had to choose between the men’s podium and the nonbinary one, and why that choice exists at all. Plus his first brand deal: a thousand dollars to hold a bottle of wine. Follow Cal: @calcalamia Thanks to our partnersJanji: use code FREEOUTSIDE at janji.comGarage Grown Gear: tell them I sent you Text the Free Outside hotline: 541-903-8065 00:00 Intro02:13 Three days out from a first 10003:13 The trail world’s “so, 100 miler next year?”06:38 How Cal started running, and the gender box on every sign-up form09:45 Third overall, and choosing between the men’s and nonbinary podium11:45 My aunt’s question: trans vs. nonbinary17:17 What he/they pronouns mean19:43 How to ask someone’s pronouns20:52 Coming back to running after college24:58 First brand deal: $1,000 to hold wine26:05 Janji27:27 Going pro: no car, no TV, PT instead30:38 Black Canyon 100K: two-hour delay, mud, and an emergency headlamp33:14 Javelina vs. the NYC Marathon and ultra vs. marathon finish lines37:05 Race plan: pacing and 100 grams of carbs per hour41:50 Making friends with 20 miles47:03 Garage Grown Gear48:06 How many pairs of shoes for a muddy loop course?50:01 Cal’s why51:00 Protecting your headspace before a race52:54 Listener questions: she/they pronouns and nonbinary BQ standards55:21 What I should do at mile 85 (Justin Bieber)57:02 Outro: birthday beer mile and expert episodes coming59:05 Listener question: FKT or a longer race? Chapters

  2. Oct 22

    Two Runners Just Broke the Backyard Ultra World Record

    At the time we recorded this, Belgian runners Ivo Steyaert and Merijn Geerts had been running for 123 hours—five days and three hours—and had each covered about 512 miles. They’d just broken the previous backyard ultra world record, and Belgium was the only team with runners still going in the World Team Championship. I’ve done two backyard ultras myself: I won one in 2022 and was the assist in another in 2023. The format is simple: run 4.167 miles every hour, on the hour, and keep going until only one runner is left. In this bonus episode, I check in with Frank “the Tank” live from Belgium. Frank has gone more than 100 yards himself and was part of Belgium’s record-setting team. This year, he’s watching from the other side as a crew member and part of the media team. We talk about how the World Team Championship works, what Ivo and Merijn do in the minutes between loops, how they help each other through rough patches, and why Belgium has become such a force in backyard running. Frank shares stories from the race, including a sleep-deprived runner who thought he was making cash drops, and gives us a close-up look at what it takes to keep going when you’ve already run more than 500 miles. Then I talk about why the backyard format can be such a useful way to pace a long effort—and why the prospect of doing another one is starting to sound pretty tempting. Support our Sponsors: Janji (code: Freeoutside): https://snp.link/a0bfb726 CS Coffee: CSinstant.coffee Garage Grown Gear: https://snp.link/db1ba8ab Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside #Trailrunning #Runningnews #Outdoors #Outdooradventure

  3. Oct 16

    El Niño, Lake Powell, and the Future of the West with Pete Deneen

    Pete Deneen is back, and this conversation goes in a lot of directions—in the best way. We talk about what El Niño actually is, what it could mean for the West, and why Pete thinks it’s time to have a serious conversation about Lake Powell and the Glen Canyon Dam. Pete also shares stories from his decade in the Coast Guard, including one wild night intercepting a major cocaine shipment. But the conversation keeps coming back to something bigger: community. Pete tells me how a trail run club grew into a monthly gathering, a way to support local nonprofits, and a group that shows up to protect the places it loves. We also get into purpose, belonging, and the simple practice of journaling. Pete’s advice before my wedding was to take 20 minutes and write. I tried a past, present, future prompt—and it might be a good place for you to start, too. Check out Pete's writing It’s Time to Drain Lake Powell https://gizmodo.com/its-time-to-drain-lake-powell-1848003413 A decade of climate whiplash in Ojai — https://issuu.com/ojaivisitorsguide/docs/ojai_magazine_winter_2024/106 Undeveloped Land Is Not “Vacant” — https://petedeneen.world/undeveloped-land-is-not-vacant/ Chapters 13:07 What El Niño is 47:39 Purpose, belonging, and community 56:23 How a run club became something bigger 1:03:01 Pete’s Coast Guard stories 1:12:00 Lake Powell and the Glen Canyon Dam 1:26:30 Putting people to work restoring the West 1:30:20 Journaling before a big life moment Support our Sponsors: Janji (code: Freeoutside): https://snp.link/a0bfb726 CS Coffee: CSinstant.coffee Garage Grown Gear: https://snp.link/db1ba8ab Subscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.com Support this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutside Buy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSF Email me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.com Watch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outside Website: www.Freeoutside.com Instagram: thefreeoutside facebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside #Trailrunning #Runningnews #Outdoors #Outdooradventure

  4. Oct 9

    Joe McConaughy: The “4-Minute Miler” Who Broke the John Muir Trail Record

    Joe “Stringbean” McConaughy recently set the supported fastest known time on the John Muir Trail. Somehow, he did it on only 38 minutes of sleep—and felt better on the third day than he expected.Joe and I have been intertwined through FKTs for years. I’ve taken some of his records, he’s demolished some of mine, and he thoroughly beat me at Cocodona. In this conversation, we dig into what finally worked on the JMT, including sleep strategy, caffeine, hydration, sodium, fueling, altitude, and why this attempt felt so much more controlled than his previous efforts.We also compare our hallucinations, talk about coaching athletes through situations that cannot be perfectly planned, and discuss Joe’s move from corporate life into professional running, coaching, and race directing.Most importantly, we finally investigate the rumor that Joe was a sub-four-minute miler. He actually ran 4:09—but the legend continues to improve.Topics include:• Joe’s supported John Muir Trail record • Sleeping only 38 minutes • Hallucinations and extreme sleep deprivation • Saving caffeine for the final night • Changing his hydration and sodium strategy • Science versus intuition in multi-day events • Becoming an ultrarunning coach • Building community-focused trail races • The truth about Joe’s “sub-four” mile Subscribe for more conversations about ultrarunning, thru-hiking, FKTs, endurance, and the strange decisions we make outside.Support our Sponsors: Janji (code: Freeoutside): https://snp.link/a0bfb726CS Coffee: CSinstant.coffeeGarage Grown Gear: https://snp.link/db1ba8abSubscribe to Substack: http://freeoutside.substack.comSupport this content on patreon: HTTP://patreon.com/freeoutsideBuy my book "Free Outside" on Amazon: https://amzn.to/39LpoSFEmail me to buy a signed copy of my book, "Free Outside" at jeff@freeoutside.comWatch the movie about setting the record on the Colorado Trail: https://tubitv.com/movies/100019916/free-outsideWebsite: www.Freeoutside.comInstagram: thefreeoutsidefacebook: www.facebook.com/freeoutside#Trailrunning #Runningnews #Outdoors #Outdooradventure

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Free Outside is a trail running, ultrarunning, thru-hiking, backpacking, and outdoor adventure podcast hosted by Jeff Garmire. Jeff is an Appalachian Trail record holder, professional endurance athlete, coach, author, and someone who has spent an unreasonable amount of his life running through forests and living out of a backpack. The show features honest and entertaining conversations with elite ultrarunners, record-setting thru-hikers, FKT athletes, coaches, race directors, adventurers, and other fascinating people doing difficult things outside.

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