Hey White Women

Daniella Mestyanek Young
Hey White Women

In this conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young and Rebecca discuss their experiences with cults and the realization that white supremacy is a cult. They explore the stages of leaving a cult and the process of deconstructing white supremacy. They also discuss the concept of white privilege and the need for white people to deprogram from the myth of white supremacy. They highlight the importance of understanding and acknowledging racism and the role of white people in dismantling white supremacy. They also touch on the parallels between cult dynamics and societal systems. The conversation explores the importance of recognizing and dismantling white supremacy within oneself and society. It emphasizes the need for white women to actively engage in anti-racism work and challenge their own biases.

  1. DEC 12

    Episode 19 | Wicked takes on Wicked

    In this conversation, the speakers explore the themes of race, identity, and representation through the lens of the musical Wicked. They discuss the implications of casting choices, the critique of whiteness, and the importance of diverse narratives in art and media. The conversation emphasizes the need for allyship and understanding different perspectives, particularly in the context of black womanhood and the complexities of marginalization. Ultimately, they advocate for the power of art to challenge norms and foster connection across different identities. Connect with Rebecca at: The White Woman Whisperer Website   The White Woman Whisperer Patreon   The White Woman Whisperer TikTok   Connect with Daniella at: You can read all about that story in my book, Uncultured-- buy signed copies here. https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured For more info on me: Patreon: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Cult book Clubs (Advanced AND Memoirs) Annual Membership: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Get an autographed copy of my book, Uncultured: https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured Get my book, Uncultured, from Bookshop.org: https://bit.ly/4g1Ufw8 Daniella’s Tiktok: https://bit.ly/3V6GK6k / KnittingCultLady Instagram:  https://bit.ly/4ePAOFK / daniellamyoung_  Unamerican video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/YTVideoBook Secret Practice video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/3ZswGY8 Takeaways Color is a significant aspect of resistance. Wicked serves as a critique of whiteness. All forms of oppression often relate back to anti-blackness. Only a black woman can provide a black woman's perspective. Art should evoke discomfort and provoke thought. Diverse narratives enrich storytelling and understanding. Representation matters in media and art. The importance of allyship in addressing systemic issues. Art can bridge gaps between different identities. Change in storytelling can lead to greater understanding. Chapters 00:00 The Color of Resistance 04:00 Wicked: A Critique of Whiteness 07:05 The Role of Black Women in Art 09:58 Cultural Perspectives and Representation 13:09 The Complexity of Allyship 16:06 The Impact of Media on Young Audiences 19:03 The Choices Behind Storytelling 22:05 Capitalism and Children's Literature 28:17 The Impact of Literature and Perspective 33:06 Understanding Identity and Credibility 38:35 The Complexity of Cults and Race 42:58 Navigating Conversations on Race and Gender 50:14 Empowerment Through Authenticity and Community 55:35 The Power of Community and Support 57:35 Exploring Identity and Representation in Storytelling 01:02:52 Art, Emotion, and the Role of the Author 01:06:35 The Impact of Whiteness in Literature and Film 01:11:08 Embracing Diverse Narratives and Perspectives

    1h 16m
  2. DEC 5

    Episode 18 | Black Privilege?

    In this conversation, the speakers explore the complexities of privilege, race, and social justice. They discuss how children perceive privilege, the importance of redefining terms like 'white privilege', and the role of community in addressing racism. The conversation also touches on the intersection of feminism and race, the challenges of critiquing public figures, and the need for nuanced discussions about identity and accountability. Ultimately, the speakers emphasize the importance of listening, learning, and taking action in the fight for social justice. Connect with Rebecca at: The White Woman Whisperer Website   The White Woman Whisperer Patreon   The White Woman Whisperer TikTok   Connect with Daniella at: You can read all about that story in my book, Uncultured-- buy signed copies here. https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured For more info on me: Patreon: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Cult book Clubs (Advanced AND Memoirs) Annual Membership: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Get an autographed copy of my book, Uncultured: https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured Get my book, Uncultured, from Bookshop.org: https://bit.ly/4g1Ufw8 Daniella’s Tiktok: https://bit.ly/3V6GK6k / KnittingCultLady Instagram:  https://bit.ly/4ePAOFK / daniellamyoung_  Unamerican video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/YTVideoBook Secret Practice video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/3ZswGY8 Takeaways Children have a unique understanding of privilege. Redefining white privilege can lead to more productive conversations. Race impacts everyday experiences in profound ways. Community support is crucial in addressing racism. White women have a unique role in social justice movements. Critiquing public figures requires nuance and understanding. Historical context is essential in discussions about race. Listening and learning are vital components of social justice work. Fear often hinders open conversations about race. Accountability and change are necessary for progress.  Chapters 00:00 Understanding Privilege Through a Child's Eyes 03:28 Redefining Privilege: From White Privilege to Unearned Advantage 06:38 Consequences of Ignorance: The Impact of White Privilege 09:33 The Burden of Consideration: Navigating Life with Privilege 12:35 Community Bonds: Us vs. Them Dynamics 15:20 The Role of Hatred in Building Community 18:28 Manipulation and Community: The Cult Dynamics of Connection 24:59 Navigating the Complexities of Fan Culture 30:35 Deconstructing Celebrity Influence and Accountability 36:27 The Emotional Landscape of Whiteness 42:19 Challenging Hierarchies and Embracing Community 49:29 Understanding Historical Contexts and Personal Responsibility 55:45 The Power of Individual Action in Social Justice 01:01:16 Utilizing White Privilege for Advocacy 01:04:58 Understanding the Nuances of Racism and Privilege 01:10:39 Building a New Worldview: Conversations and Growth Produced by Haley Phillips

    1h 17m
  3. NOV 26

    Episode 17 | Weaponized Literacy

    This conversation explores the evolution of reading from a joyful activity to an obligation, the impact of recommended reading lists, and the cultural narratives that shape our understanding of literature. It delves into the role of education in shaping perspectives, the struggle for authenticity in reading, and the arbitrary nature of degrees and success. The speakers emphasize the importance of self-reflection, the complexities of human relationships, and the journey of deconstruction and awareness in navigating conversations around race and identity. In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of cultural dynamics, privilege, and the responsibilities that come with them. They discuss the discomfort surrounding difficult topics such as race, identity, and historical injustices, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging and addressing these issues. The dialogue highlights the need for active engagement in anti-racist work, the significance of reparations, and the role of white individuals in amplifying marginalized voices. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they encourage listeners to confront their own privileges and take meaningful actions towards equity and justice. Connect with Rebecca at: The White Woman Whisperer Website   The White Woman Whisperer Patreon   The White Woman Whisperer TikTok   Connect with Daniella at: You can read all about that story in my book, Uncultured-- buy signed copies here. https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured For more info on me: Patreon: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Cult book Clubs (Advanced AND Memoirs) Annual Membership: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding Get an autographed copy of my book, Uncultured: https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured Get my book, Uncultured, from Bookshop.org: https://bit.ly/4g1Ufw8 Daniella’s Tiktok: https://bit.ly/3V6GK6k / KnittingCultLady Instagram:  https://bit.ly/4ePAOFK / daniellamyoung_  Unamerican video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/YTVideoBook Secret Practice video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/3ZswGY8   Takeaways Reading should be enjoyable, not an obligation. Recommended reading lists can perpetuate control. The literary canon often excludes diverse voices. Education can be used as a tool for oppression. Comfort can lead to complacency in understanding issues. Degrees do not define a person's worth or capability. Self-reflection is essential for personal growth. Deconstruction of beliefs can be a painful process. Navigating race conversations requires sensitivity and awareness. Human relationships are complex and require understanding. Discomfort is often mistaken for danger, but it's essential to sit with it. Rhetorical questions can reveal deeper cultural insights and biases. The right to comfort often prioritizes the feelings of the privileged over the marginalized. Access to information should not be a privilege; it should be a right for all. Names and identity are significant; respect for them is crucial in fostering understanding. Historical sins, like slavery, require acknowledgment and responsibility from those who benefit from them. Reparations should be directed towards those most affected by systemic injustices. White privilege can be used to uplift and amplify marginalized voices. Engaging in anti-racist work requires active participation and personal accountability. Conversations about race should be normalized to foster understanding and growth. Chapters 00:00 The Evolution of Reading: From Joy to Obligation 03:09 The Impact of Recommended Reading Lists 06:10 Cultural Narratives and Literary Canon 08:50 The Politics of Reading and Education 11:16 The Arbitrary Nature of Degrees and Success 14:15 Comfort, Safety, and Self-Reflection 17:17 The Journey of Personal Growth and Understanding 28:17 Navigating Racial Conversations 30:26 Deconstructing Stereotypes and Assumptions 33:02 The Pain of Deconstruction 36:09 Understanding Trauma and Its Impact 38:30 The Role of Comfort in Conversations 41:31 The Complexity of Relationships and Change 44:24 Rhetorical Questions and Comfort 47:35 Discomfort vs. Danger 50:57 The Right to Comfort and Responsibility 58:48 Navigating Name Comfort and Identity 01:03:46 Confronting Historical Injustices 01:08:19 Reparations and Accountability 01:13:47 The Role of White Privilege in Conversations 01:18:51 Empowering Black Voices and Community Support Produced by Haley Phillips

    1h 30m
  4. NOV 19

    Episode 16 | What do we do now?

    In this episode of 'Hey White Women', the first recorded after the 2024 election, hosts Daniella and Rebecca engage in a deep conversation about the role of white women in dismantling white supremacy. They discuss the importance of acknowledging discomfort, the need for collective action, and the power of community in creating change. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of listening to marginalized voices, the journey of healing, and the complexities involved in challenging ingrained societal norms. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they encourage listeners to take action and be part of the solution. Connect with Rebecca at: Website Patreon TikTok   Connect with Daniella at: Daniella's Patreon TikTok Instagram  Website Youtube   Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young From Bookshop.org Autographed  UnAMERICAN Videobook Takeaways White women have a crucial role in dismantling white supremacy. Discomfort and shame can be powerful motivators for change. Community and collective action are essential for progress. Listening to marginalized voices is vital in the fight against oppression. Healing and personal growth are necessary parts of the journey. Resistance against oppressive systems is a shared responsibility. The complexity of societal change requires patience and understanding. Building a better future involves acknowledging past mistakes. Empathy and compassion are key in supporting one another. The journey towards equality is ongoing and requires commitment. Sound Bites "We were always in this place." "You have agency, you have power." "We need to be learning from history." Chapters 00:00 Deconstructing White Supremacy 03:25 The Cult of Politics and Betrayal 06:22 Agency and Resistance in a Cult 09:48 Historical Context and Lessons Learned 12:35 The Role of Generations in Change 15:36 Understanding Comfort and Discomfort 18:36 The Power of Ex-Members in Cults 30:29 The Quest for Moral Superiority 36:25 Community Building and Running Interference 41:13 The Role of White Women in Supporting Black Voices 44:23 Shared Missions and Collective Responsibility 55:13 The Complexity of Social Issues and the Search for Easy Answers 01:00:30 Understanding Discomfort vs. Danger 01:05:15 Navigating the Journey of Self-Discovery 01:07:29 The Importance of Patience in Growth 01:09:37 The Role of Generosity in Relationships 01:12:39 Challenging the Notion of Earning 01:16:25 The Impact of Capitalism on Relationships 01:19:02 Addressing Societal Issues Together 01:21:13 Building a Safe Community for All Produced by Haley Phillips

    1h 26m
  5. NOV 5

    Episode 15 | Human Rights vs Pet Rocks

    This unplanned conversation delves into the complexities of anti-racism, personal growth, and the impact of societal norms on individual experiences. The speakers discuss the importance of language, the challenges of navigating discomfort, and the role of community in healing. They also explore the intersection of mental health and racism, emphasizing the need for systemic change and the journey of self-discovery. In this conversation, Haley and Rebecca delve into the complexities of identity, focusing on the intersections of race, gender, and disability. They discuss the unique experiences of black women, the societal norms surrounding gender conversations, and the impact of legislation on personal choices. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of appreciation over validation in engaging with marginalized voices, highlighting the need for safer spaces and the recognition of diverse experiences. Connect with Rebecca at: Website Patreon TikTok   Connect with Daniella at: Daniella's Patreon TikTok Instagram  Website Youtube   Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young From Bookshop.org Autographed  UnAMERICAN Videobook Takeaways Anti-racism must be made accessible to everyone. Perfectionism is a barrier to genuine anti-racist work. Deconstructing belief systems requires patience and openness. Language shapes our understanding of race and identity. Discomfort is a necessary part of growth and learning. Community support is vital in the healing process. Mental health issues are often exacerbated by societal pressures. Self-discovery is a continuous journey, not a destination. Rest and relaxation are essential for personal well-being. Understanding personal trauma can inform our interactions with others. our trauma is rooted in the tenets of race. Race is gendered and gender is racialized. We need safer places for black women to express themselves. Legislation impacts personal choices significantly. Survivor's guilt can complicate feelings of freedom. Engagement with black voices should focus on appreciation, not validation. The complexity of black womanhood is often overlooked. Gender conversations are still evolving in society. Understanding intersectionality is crucial for empathy. Education does not equate to understanding lived experiences. Sound Bites "The gaslighting is insane." "We [black women] are the most educated." "Don't relate, appreciate." Produced by Haley Phillips

    1h 31m
  6. OCT 29

    Episode 14 | Discomfort Isn’t Danger: Rehumanizing Conflict

    In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of human nature, the oversimplification of good and evil narratives, and the importance of rehumanization in social discourse. They discuss the role of white women in social justice, the impact of capitalism on group dynamics, and the necessity of discomfort for personal growth. The conversation emphasizes the power of personal narratives, critical thinking, and storytelling in fostering empathy and understanding, while also addressing the limitations of white feminism and the need for preventative measures in societal issues. Connect with Rebecca at:  Website Patreon TikTok   Connect with Daniella at: Daniella's Patreon TikTok Instagram  Website Youtube   Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young From Bookshop.org Autographed  UnAMERICAN Videobook Sound Bites "Nothing's ever obviously evil." "We need to find the human." "It's not helpful to call everything a cult." Takeaways The narrative of good and evil is often oversimplified. Rehumanization is essential in understanding complex issues. Cults often thrive on dehumanization and manipulation. Discomfort is a necessary part of growth and change. White women have a unique role in advocating for social change. The illusion of safety can prevent necessary actions. Capitalism influences group dynamics and perpetuates harmful systems. Personal narratives are powerful tools for understanding and change. Humor can be an effective way to address serious topics. Not all groups can be classified as 'good' under capitalism. White feminism can sometimes overshadow the voices of women of color. Critical thinking is essential in understanding social issues. Preventative measures are often undervalued in society. Historical context is crucial for understanding current issues. Storytelling can bridge gaps in understanding and empathy. Self-discovery is a lifelong journey that involves acknowledging past mistakes. Change is a natural part of personal growth and understanding. Human nature is complex and cannot be easily categorized. Empathy and understanding are vital for social progress. Chapters 00:00 The Complexity of Good and Evil 03:38 Rehumanization and the Danger of Labels 06:43 Understanding Cult Dynamics and Societal Norms 09:46 The Role of Discomfort in Social Change 12:33 Navigating Power Dynamics and Privilege 15:50 The Importance of Trusting Intuition 18:30 The Fragility of Comfort and Its Consequences 21:40 The Role of White Women in Social Justice 24:50 The Ripple Effect of Advocacy 27:53 The Need for Authentic Voices in Conversations 30:37 The Impact of White Fragility on Dialogue 39:02 Understanding White Supremacy and Its Tenets 43:14 The Role of Prevention in Society 45:40 The Value of Video and Synchronous Conversations 50:27 Personal Growth and Changing Perspectives 52:32 The Importance of Acknowledging Personal History 57:38 Dehumanization in Systems of Power 01:00:53 The Complexity of Good and Evil in Society 01:05:33 The Importance of Passionate Discourse 01:07:51 The Complexity of Human Nature and Group Dynamics 01:11:43 Creating Safe Spaces for Discussion Produced by: Haley Phillips

    1h 14m
  7. OCT 22

    Episode 13 | There Are No Easy Answers

    In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the intersections of entertainment, identity, and societal structures. They discuss the role of whiteness in shaping experiences, the burdens of perfectionism and productivity, and the implications of the cult of entrepreneurship. The conversation delves into the dynamics of social media, the weaponization of secrets, and the importance of community versus group dynamics. They also reflect on the impact of capitalism on human value, the complexities of international relations, and the need for transparency in systems. Ultimately, they emphasize the importance of individuality and the role of women in society, while advocating for a more nuanced understanding of these issues. Connect with Rebecca at:  Website Patreon TikTok   Connect with Daniella at: Daniella's Patreon TikTok Instagram  Website Youtube   Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young From Bookshop.org Autographed  UnAMERICAN Videobook Takeaways Entertainment is a crucial aspect of teaching and content creation. Navigating identity in relation to whiteness can be complex and challenging. Perfectionism and productivity are often burdensome in corporate culture. The cult of entrepreneurship can perpetuate harmful dynamics and expectations. Social media can amplify cult-like behaviors and influence. Secrets can be weaponized to maintain power and control. Community is distinct from groups; it involves individuality and shared experiences. Capitalism often dehumanizes individuals, treating them as resources. Rethinking freedom requires examining societal structures and their implications. Historical figures and their legacies impact contemporary discussions on identity and power. Sound Bites "You are the entertainment." "Know your place aggression." "Rest is productive." Chapters 00:00 The Role of Entertainment in Content Creation 02:26 Navigating Identity and Race 04:50 The Boredom of Whiteness 07:19 The Burden of Productivity 11:58 The Cult of Entrepreneurship 19:28 Influencers and Cult Dynamics 24:28 The Complexity of Credibility 30:15 Understanding Cult Dynamics 36:52 The Tyranny of Definitions 42:21 The Art of Human Connection 48:17 The Cult of Employment 52:06 The Dehumanizing Nature of Systems 54:44 The Impact of Sleep Deprivation on Life 57:50 The Electronic Leash of Work Culture 01:00:53 The Weaponization of Secrets in Governance 01:05:05 Patriarchy and the Culture of Violence 01:09:45 Community vs. Group Dynamics 01:15:02 The Need for Human-Centric Systems

    1h 19m
  8. OCT 15

    Episode 12 | Education and Total Institutions (Surprise producer appearance)

    In this suprise guest episode, the speakers explore the challenges of traditional education, particularly for neurodivergent individuals. They discuss the concept of total institutions and how societal norms can impact personal identity and acceptance. The dialogue shifts to the importance of navigating life beyond conventional paths, embracing change, and redefining expertise. The speakers also touch on the dangers of cult-like structures and apocalyptic thinking in society, emphasizing the need for personal narrative and the evolution of tools in human adaptation. In this conversation, the speakers explore the challenges and opportunities of self-publishing versus traditional publishing, the impact of social media on self-worth, and the complexities of safety and uncertainty in today's world. They discuss the societal expectations surrounding work, the illusion of choice in education, and the importance of community and shared experiences. The conversation also delves into the implications of the worship of the written word, the intersection of race and narrative, and the need to deconstruct societal norms and expectations. Connect with Rebecca at:  Website Patreon TikTok   Connect with Daniella at: Daniella's Patreon TikTok Instagram  Website Youtube   Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young From Bookshop.org Autographed  UnAMERICAN Videobook Takeaways Haley is dropping out of school to pursue her interests. Total institutions can create harmful group norms. Neurodivergent individuals often struggle in structured systems. Acceptance in groups can be superficial and manipulative. Life paths are rarely linear; zigzagging is common. Self-definition is crucial in navigating personal identity. Cults can exploit feelings of rejection and need for belonging. Apocalyptic thinking is prevalent in American culture. New tools can provoke fear but also lead to adaptation. Personal narratives are powerful in shaping identity. Self-publishing offers innovative ways to reach audiences. Social media can create a transactional view of self-worth. Uncertainty does not equate to unsafety. Life expectancy for neurodivergent individuals is alarmingly low. The traditional work ethic is being challenged by younger generations. Education often limits true choice in career paths. Community support is vital for personal growth and understanding. The written word is often revered without questioning its origins. Racial narratives are often shaped by historical biases. Societal norms can be deconstructed for a more inclusive future. Sound Bites "Group norms in total institutions really matter." "The master's tool will not tear down the master's house." Chapters 00:00 Breaking Free from Traditional Education 04:12 Understanding Total Institutions 06:53 The Struggles of Neurodivergence in Structured Systems 09:55 The Complexity of Identity and Acceptance 12:56 Navigating Life Beyond Conventional Paths 15:55 The Challenge of Self-Definition 19:04 The Dangers of Cult-like Structures 22:03 Apocalyptic Thinking in Society 24:53 The Evolution of Tools and Human Adaptation 28:11 The Power of Personal Narrative 31:03 Embracing Change and Uncertainty 33:58 Redefining Expertise and Identity 41:44 Navigating Traditional Publishing vs. Self-Publishing 44:40 The Impact of Social Media on Self-Worth 47:43 Understanding Safety and Uncertainty 50:51 Challenging the Work Culture Paradigm 53:46 The Illusion of Choice in Career Paths 56:35 Redefining Value Beyond Traditional Metrics 59:45 The Role of Education and Societal Expectations 01:02:06 The Power of Community and Shared Experiences 01:05:12 Navigating Conversations on Race and Whiteness 01:08:40 Deconstructing the Worship of the Written Word 01:11:26 The Intersection of Sexuality and Identity 01:21:50 Closing Thoughts on Empowerment and Change

    1h 23m
4.9
out of 5
23 Ratings

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In this conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young and Rebecca discuss their experiences with cults and the realization that white supremacy is a cult. They explore the stages of leaving a cult and the process of deconstructing white supremacy. They also discuss the concept of white privilege and the need for white people to deprogram from the myth of white supremacy. They highlight the importance of understanding and acknowledging racism and the role of white people in dismantling white supremacy. They also touch on the parallels between cult dynamics and societal systems. The conversation explores the importance of recognizing and dismantling white supremacy within oneself and society. It emphasizes the need for white women to actively engage in anti-racism work and challenge their own biases.

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