So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People

Jennifer Ramsey & Megan Senese

Welcome to So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People where we explore the behind-the-scenes of work, law, life, and everything in between. We’re your hosts, business development and legal marketing coaches Jennifer Ramsey and Megan Senese, and we’re here to showcase the human side of the legal world, from marketing and consulting to the very real challenges of balancing ambitious careers with being human. This isn’t your typical, dry legal show. Instead, So Much To Say is a human-centered leadership, marketing, and culture podcast through the lens of law. We bring you real stories, candid conversations, and thoughtful insights that remind you that outside of being a lawyer or legal marketer, what makes you human matters too. So whether you’re navigating billable hours, building meaningful relationships, redefining success, or simply trying to stay human in a high-performance profession, this podcast is for you. Stay human. Stay inspired. Namaste (or whatever keeps you human).

  1. 2d ago

    Serious Lawyer, Actual Human (with David Edgar)

    “I think there's a real importance even if you're doing serious things, to not take yourself too seriously.” - David Edgar What if standing out as a lawyer had less to do with doing more and more to do with being yourself? In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey chat with David Edgar, M&A attorney at Porter Wright, about finding his creative voice, building meaningful professional relationships, and embracing change after 25 years at the same law firm. From his popular Knowing Something: M&A in a Minute LinkedIn series to sharing stories about his family, David has found a way to make complex legal topics approachable without losing his personality along the way. He shares how an unexpected connection with a legendary M&A attorney inspired him to start writing, why LinkedIn has become an especially valuable relationship-building tool for him as an introvert, and how curiosity continues to shape his career. They also explore the value of simplifying complicated ideas, experimenting without fear of failure, and recognizing that sometimes the best business development happens when you're simply paying attention to other people. Because being a serious lawyer doesn't mean you have to take yourself so seriously. You'll hear about: Why David decided to change firms after 25 years and what he was looking for in his next chapterHow a thank-you email to a legendary M&A attorney inspired his LinkedIn journeyThe story behind his Knowing Something: M&A in a Minute seriesWhy sharing his personality and family life has helped him build stronger professional relationshipsHow LinkedIn makes networking and business development more comfortable for an introvertWhy thoughtful gestures and genuine appreciation can be more meaningful than traditional networkingThe importance of making complex legal concepts accessible to clients and colleaguesHow creativity, curiosity, and learning across disciplines make lawyers better problem-solversWhy collecting ideas, experimenting, and being willing to fail matterFinding ways to have fun and stay true to yourself in a traditionally serious profession About David Edgar David Edgar is an M&A attorney at Porter Wright Morris & Arthur LLP, where he advises clients on corporate transactions and mergers and acquisitions. With more than 25 years of legal experience, David brings a creative and approachable perspective to complex business and legal challenges. He's also the creator of Knowing Something: M&A in a Minute, a LinkedIn content series that makes M&A concepts easier to understand through storytelling, humor, and everyday experiences. His writing reflects his belief that curiosity, clear communication, and authentic relationships are essential parts of being a great lawyer. Going Beyond the Episode Connect with David EdgarAnatomy of a Merger by James C. FreundThe Pleasure of Finding Things Out by Richard FeynmanRange: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World by David EpsteinStay Connected Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human.  Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat! Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

    Serious Lawyer, Actual Human (with David Edgar)
  2. Oct 22

    What Does Laundry Have to Do with Business Development? (Minis with Megan)

    What does a pile of laundry or the dishes in the sink have to do with business development? More than you might think. In this mini episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People with Megan Senese, co-founder and principal of stage, we’re talking about the responsibilities outside of work that make it harder for lawyers to show up for the things they want to do professionally. Drawing from real conversations with lawyers, including participants in stage's corduroy parental leave program, Megan explores why building a successful practice sometimes starts with asking for help, letting go of responsibilities, and creating a little breathing room in your life. She gives real life examples of ways that she and her lawyers have created strategies and the reframe to delegate wherever possible. The best business development strategy isn't always doing more. It's finding ways to carry less to focus on what is important. Who this episode is for: Lawyers struggling to balance billable work, business development, and responsibilities at homeWorking parents navigating their careers after parental leaveProfessionals who feel like there's never enough time for networking or relationship-buildingAnyone who needs permission to rethink how they're spending their time and energyEpisode takeaways: Your personal responsibilities directly affect your capacity for business development.Creating time for professional growth sometimes means removing responsibilities rather than adding activities.Delegating, outsourcing, or sharing household tasks can be a meaningful investment in your career and well-being.Not every professional commitment needs to remain on your calendar forever.Rest and personal time are just as worthy of the space you create as another networking opportunity.How to create more room for business development (and life):Look beyond your work calendar: Identify the responsibilities at home that are taking up your time, energy, and mental bandwidth. Find one thing you can take off your plate: Start with a recurring task you could delegate, simplify, share, or stop doing altogether. Reevaluate your commitments: Just because you've always served on a committee or held a leadership position doesn't mean you have to continue. Ask for help where you can: Whether it's meal preparation, cleaning, childcare, or dividing household responsibilities differently, small changes can make a meaningful difference. Be intentional with the time you reclaim: Use it to reconnect with a client, invest in your practice, spend time with your family, or simply rest. This episode is brought to you by: corduroyAt stage, we know business development doesn't happen in isolation from the rest of your life. Our coaching approach considers the whole person, helping lawyers build sustainable practices that account for their professional goals, personal responsibilities, and actual capacity. Through our corduroy parental leave program, we offer four complimentary business development coaching sessions to lawyers returning from parental leave, helping them navigate what's next in their careers and lives. Reach out to us today at info@stage.guide. Related Minis: Business Development Can’t Happen If You’re MiserableHow You Feel About Business Development MattersOverwhelmed? Here’s Small Things You Can DoStay Connected:You don't always need another networking event, another coffee meeting, or another thing on your to-do list. Sometimes you just need someone else to do the laundry. Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human.

    What Does Laundry Have to Do with Business Development? (Minis with Megan)
  3. Oct 15

    The Future of Legal Marketing (with LMA CEO, Ashley Stenger)

    Where is legal marketing headed, and is there room for you to help shape it? We asked the CEO of the Legal Marketing Association. Ashley Stenger, CEO of the Legal Marketing Association, joins Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey on So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People to talk about the future of the profession and the opportunities available to the people building it. Legal marketers spend their careers helping lawyers succeed. But what does support, visibility, and advancement look like for them?We get into the questions that matter: Has LMA become more accessible? How is it responding to members’ changing needs? And how do you get involved if you’re unsure where to start or whether you belong? Ashley shares her unexpected path into legal marketing, how the profession has moved beyond asking for a seat at the table, and why opening doors to new voices and future leaders is a priority for LMA. Whether you’re early in your career, ready to lead, or wondering what LMA has to offer you now, this conversation explores where you can go next and how to take part. You'll hear about: Ashley's unexpected career path from association management to CEO of LMAHow the role and influence of legal marketing and business development professionals have evolvedWhy LMA is making leadership opportunities more accessible to new voicesHow the association is responding to past perceptions of exclusivityLMA's three strategic priorities and what's ahead for 2027New initiatives focused on membership accessibility, professional development, and inclusionWhy relationships remain at the heart of successful leadership and legal business developmentHow getting involved with LMA can create opportunities throughout your careerAshley's advice for younger professionals who are hesitant to put themselves out thereAbout Ashley Stenger:  Ashley Stenger is the Chief Executive Officer of the Legal Marketing Association (LMA), a professional organization dedicated to advancing the legal marketing and business development profession. Since joining LMA in 2019, Ashley has held leadership roles spanning membership, regional engagement, and organizational strategy. As CEO, she works alongside LMA's board, volunteers, and professional team to strengthen the member experience, expand access to leadership opportunities, and elevate the profession's voice across the legal industry. Going Beyond the Episode Connect with Ashley Stenger on LinkedInExplore LMA and membership opportunities: legalmarketing.orgFind your local LMA group and get involvedRelated episodes: A Human Approach to Law Firm Business Development (with Andraya Brunau)How Do You Become a Law Firm CMO? Leadership Lessons (with Koree Khongphand-Buckman)This episode is brought to you by: The Horowitz AgencyWant more clients to choose your law firm? Horowitz Agency helps law firms boost their bottom line through earned media, strategic content, and AI search visibility, building trust before the first phone call. Horowitz Agency: Plan. Execute. Grow.   Stay Connected: Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat! Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

    The Future of Legal Marketing (with LMA CEO, Ashley Stenger)
  4. Oct 8

    Lawyers Don’t Need More Business Development: They Need a Plan That Fits (Minis with Megan)

    “Do more business development” sounds like advice. But what does more actually mean? In this mini episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese, business development coach and co-founder of stage, looks beyond the usual business development advice for lawyers to post more, network more, and schedule more coffee meetings. She explains why effective business development has to account for your billable requirements, compensation structure, capacity, internal relationships at law firms, career stage, and actual life. Because the best business development plan isn't the one with the most tactics, it’s the one you can realistically execute and that helps you get where you want to go. Who this episode is for: Lawyers who know they “should” be doing business development but don’t know where to startAttorneys struggling to balance billable work with building a book of businessLawyers whose current business development plan feels overwhelming or unrealisticFirm leaders and legal marketers supporting lawyers at different stages of their careersEpisode takeaways: “Do more business development” isn’t useful advice without defining what “more” actually means.Your billable requirements, compensation structure, seniority, and capacity should influence your business development strategy.Sometimes the right strategy is bringing in new clients; other times it’s building your internal network and getting more of the right work.Time management, delegation, systems, and efficiency are part of business development too.A sustainable strategy should evolve as your career, workload, and priorities change.How to build a business development plan you can actually use:Start with where you are right now: Your workload, billable hours, compensation, career stage, and financial goals should shape the plan. Understand how you get paid: Know how origination credit and compensation work before deciding where to invest your time. Don't overlook your internal network: If your immediate goal is hitting your hours or getting better work, relationships inside your firm may matter more than finding a brand-new client. Make sure people know what you do: Your bio, LinkedIn profile, and content should reflect the work you actually want people to associate with you. Create capacity before adding more: Look for administrative work you can delegate, automate, or streamline so business development isn't simply another task piled onto an already-full schedule. Build for sustainability: Choose activities that fit your life well enough that you can keep doing them instead of constantly pushing business development to the bottom of your list. Related Minis: Business Development Can’t Happen If You’re Miserable (Minis with Megan)You Are the Inspiration You’ve Been Waiting For (Minis with Megan)5 Ways Lawyers Can Grow a Sustainable Book of Business (Minis with Megan)Stay Connected: At stage, we don't believe business development should look the same for every lawyer. We help lawyers build tailored strategies around their goals, compensation, capacity, career stage, relationships, and strengths, so business development becomes something they can actually fit into their lives.You probably don't need to do more business development. You need to know which business development activities actually make sense for you right now and where you're going to find the time to do them. If you’re ready, let’s chat:  Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human.

    Lawyers Don’t Need More Business Development: They Need a Plan That Fits (Minis with Megan)
  5. Oct 1

    Beyond Breaking News: What it Actually Takes to Get Featured in Bloomberg Law (with Editor-at-Large, Jessie Kamens)

    You have expertise. You have an idea. But is it something people actually need to hear? In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey chat with Jessie Kamens, Editor-at-Large for Bloomberg Law’s News, Insights, and Commentary, about what makes an idea worth publishing, how to build relationships with editors, and what lawyers and legal marketers should know before hitting send on their next pitch. Jessie pulls back the curtain on what Bloomberg Law is actually looking for: useful ideas, actionable insights, and the right people to help readers understand the issues shaping the profession. She shares why traditional client alerts aren’t cutting it, how PR and communications teams can strengthen a pitch, and why relationships with editors matter. They also dig into how AI is changing legal thought leadership and why, no matter what tools you use, your expertise, judgment, and human perspective still need to come through. Because getting published isn't just about producing more content. It's about having something worth saying. You’ll hear about: What Jessie does as Editor at Large for Bloomberg Law’s News, Insights, and CommentaryHow Bloomberg Law decides which ideas and contributors are worth pursuingWhy Jessie is increasingly interested in finding the right people, not just the right topicsWhat makes a pitch useful, actionable, and worth someone’s clickWhy traditional client alerts are no longer enoughHow PR and communications teams can make lawyers’ ideas and pitches strongerThe importance of building genuine relationships with editorsWhy a thoughtful subject line and a well-targeted pitch still matterWhether it’s okay to follow up when you haven’t heard backHow Bloomberg Law’s approach to AI-assisted writing has evolvedWhy AI can support your thinking without replacing your expertise or human perspectiveHow AI may fundamentally change the way junior lawyers learn and develop judgmentThe topics Jessie wants lawyers and legal professionals to pitch right nowAbout Jessie Kamens:  Jessie Kamens is Editor-at-Large for Bloomberg Law’s News, Insights, and Commentary, where she works with lawyers, professors, retired judges, and other legal professionals to develop commentary on the issues shaping the profession. During her 18 years at Bloomberg and its predecessor, BNA, Jessie has held roles across legal news and product development, including leading Supreme Court news coverage and helping launch Bloomberg Law’s business of law reporting group. Learn More: Connect with Jessie KamensExplore Bloomberg LawHave an idea? Pitch Bloomberg Law’s Insights teamDavid Wang’s Bloomberg pieceHugh Carlson/Megan Ma Bloomberg pieceRelated episodes: What Happens When the Rule of Law Is Put to the Test? (with Law Firm Partner, Neel Chatterjee)Even My Kids Know: Business Development is About Trust (Minis with Megan)This episode is brought to you by: ICVM HawkICVM Hawk is a digital marketing and AI solutions consultancy that helps law firms build stronger brands and future-ready marketing systems. They specialize in data-backed brand strategy, web design and development, SEO- and AI-optimized content and AI-enabled marketing system designed to improve visibility, credibility, and long-term growth. ICVM Hawk's solutions help law firms and legal marketing teams scale without losing the trust that matters most. Visit icvmhawk.com to learn how your firm can benefit.  Stay Connected: Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human.  Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat! Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

    Beyond Breaking News: What it Actually Takes to Get Featured in Bloomberg Law (with Editor-at-Large, Jessie Kamens)
  6. Sep 24

    I Was Harassed on LinkedIn (Minis with Megan)

    LinkedIn doesn’t have to feel like one giant sales pitch and you actually don’t need to be a jerk to have it work for you. In this mini episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese shares about a particularly bad LinkedIn interaction and how it has become something of a case study in what not to do. It’s also a reminder that the easiest way to stand out online might simply be to act like a human. Megan shares how LinkedIn became one of stage’s strongest sources of clients, leads, and referrals by focusing on generosity, curiosity, personality, and genuine relationships instead of immediately asking for business. If you walk away with anything from this episode, let it be to lead with kindness and to stop the pitch slapping. Who this episode is for: Lawyers who want to use LinkedIn but don’t know what to post or sayProfessionals worried that reaching out will feel too salesyAnyone who has ever been on the receiving end of a LinkedIn “pitch slap”Lawyers and legal marketers looking to turn LinkedIn into a relationship-building and business development toolEpisode takeaways: LinkedIn can become a meaningful business development pipeline without aggressive selling.Your content should provide value while also showing people what it’s actually like to know and work with you.Engagement gives you an opportunity to identify people who are already interested in what you have to say.A thoughtful conversation is more valuable than rushing into a pitch.The stronger the relationship, the easier it becomes to understand what someone actually needs, and whether you’re right person to help or not.How to use LinkedIn without pitch slapping people: Share something useful: Give people ideas, advice, or perspective they can actually use.Show some personality: Let people see what it might be like to know and work with you instead of making every post perfectly polished.Pay attention to who engages: Notice the people who consistently like, comment on, or interact with what you share.Start with gratitude and curiosity: Thank someone for engaging, start a conversation, and get to know them before asking for anything.Look for ways to help before you pitch: Send the article, make the introduction, recommend the book, or simply listen to what they need.Respect the silence: Follow-up is okay. Repeatedly demanding someone's attention is not. No one owes you a response.Stay Connected:You don’t have to choose between staying invisible and becoming the person everyone avoids in their LinkedIn inbox. Lead with curiosity. Lead with kindness. Give without assuming you’ll get something in return. At stage, we believe LinkedIn is one piece of a larger relationship-first business development strategy. We help lawyers figure out how to show up, share what they know, build meaningful relationships, and create opportunities without turning every interaction into a sales pitch. Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human.

    I Was Harassed on LinkedIn (Minis with Megan)
  7. Sep 17

    Lawyer Dads Need Community (with Dad Esq. Founder, Matthew Korn)

    “I created a community, not because I'm the expert, or because I figured it out, but because I think there needs to be a space for us to share about what's working and what's not working.”    -  Matthew Korn What happens when the community you need doesn’t exist yet? Sometimes, you build it yourself. In this episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese and Jennifer Ramsey chat with Matthew Korn, employment attorney, partner at Pierson Ferdinand, and founder of Dad, Esq., about creating space for lawyer dads, making a major career change after 15 years, and figuring out how to build a career and life that actually work together. Matthew started Dad, Esq. because he kept hearing the same question: How do you balance being a lawyer and a dad? His answer wasn’t to position himself as the person who had figured it all out, but rather, a father of four with a demanding legal career of his own. He wanted a place where dads could admit that they hadn’t figured it all out, together. What began as an idea just weeks before its launch has grown into a private community of hundreds of lawyer dads across the U.S. and around the world. They talk about everything from parental leave and trial schedules to sleepless nights, marriage, potty training, career pressure, and the everyday wins that deserve celebrating. And that shared experience matters. There are things about being a lawyer that other dads may not understand, just as there are parts of fatherhood that don’t always feel easy to bring into the workplace. Dad, Esq. gives men a place for both. Matthew also gets candid about his own learning along the way, including realizing that building a community for involved dads was sometimes taking him away from being the involved dad he wanted to be. His solution? Delegate, ask for help, and remember that bigger isn’t always better. Because whether you're building a law practice, a community, or a family life you love, sometimes the goal isn't to keep making everything bigger. It's to recognize what's already working and build intentionally from there. You’ll hear about: Why Matthew left a firm after 15 years and what he was looking for in his next chapterHow greater autonomy is changing the way he thinks about work and familyWhy he created Dad, Esq. without considering himself an expert on fatherhoodThe unique pressures that come with being both a lawyer and a dadWhy talking about fatherhood at work can feel risky for menCreating a private space where lawyer dads can talk honestly about work, parenting, marriage, and lifeHow Dad, Esq. grew from an idea conceived just weeks before launch into an international communityWhy shared lived experience can make people feel less aloneThe conversations lawyer dads are having about parental leave, caregiving, career pressure, and simply being tiredHow local Dad, Esq. chapters are bringing an online community into real lifeWhy delegation became essential as Matthew balanced his family, law practice, and growing communityMatthew’s reminder to himself that everything doesn't always need to become bigger and betterAbout Matthew Korn: Matthew Korn is a company-side employment attorney, partner at Pierson Ferdinand, and founder of Dad, Esq., a free online community for lawyer dads. His employment practice spans both proactive counseling and litigation, helping employers navigate everything from reductions-in-force, wage and hour issues, and workplace policies to discrimination, retaliation, and class and collective actions. As a father of four, Matthew also knows firsthand the tension that can exist between being an ambitious lawyer and a present parent. He created Dad, Esq. in January 2025 to give lawyer dads a private space to connect, share what’s working and what isn’t, and support one another through the realities of law and fatherhood. Learn More: Connect with Matthew KornCheck out Dad, Esq. Submit your Request to Join Dad, Esq. today at DadEsq.mn.coRelated episodes: What NextGen Lawyers Need From the Legal Profession: A Conversation (with Georgetown Law Professor, Jonah Perlin)Even My Kids Know: Business Development is About Trust (Minis with Megan)Leadership Can Come From Anywhere (with Baker McKenzie CFO, William Washington III)This episode is brought to you by: ICVM Hawk ICVM Hawk is a digital marketing and AI solutions consultancy that helps law firms build stronger brands and future-ready marketing systems. They specialize in data-backed brand strategy, web design and development, SEO- and AI-optimized content and AI-enabled marketing system designed to improve visibility, credibility, and long-term growth. ICVM Hawk's solutions help law firms and legal marketing teams scale without losing the trust that matters most. Visit icvmhawk.com to learn how your firm can benefit. Stay Connected: Love So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human. Want to go deeper? Curious about 1:1 coaching with Megan or Jen? Or want the inside scoop on stage? Hit us up below, we’d love to chat! Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer Ramsey

    Lawyer Dads Need Community (with Dad Esq. Founder, Matthew Korn)
  8. Sep 10

    Even My Kids Know: Business Development is About Trust (Minis with Megan)

    Getting clients can be hard, but it’s a lot easier when people trust you. In this mini episode of So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People, Megan Senese pulls from inspiration that has come from a seemingly unlikely (but very cute) source: her kids. Their observation sparks a conversation about why trust, reliability, and small acts of thoughtfulness matter more than the perfect pitch or another accolade. From following up when you say you will to helping someone even when there’s nothing in it for you, Megan explores how small moments add up to strong relationships, and why that is really good business development. Who this episode is for: Lawyers who want to build stronger, longer-lasting client relationshipsProfessionals who struggle with business development feeling transactionalAnyone focused on attracting new clients while overlooking the relationships they already haveFirm leaders looking to create a more relationship-focused approach to business development for themselves and their firmEpisode takeaways: Trust can matter more than credentials, awards, or a perfectly polished pitch.Reliability is one of the simplest ways to build trust with clients and prospects.Small acts of thoughtfulness are business development, even when they don’t feel like it.Helping when you have nothing to gain demonstrates that a relationship isn’t merely transactional.Strong relationships make outreach, referrals, pitching, and staying connected easier.How to make trust part of your business development strategy: Do what you say you’ll do: Follow through when you promise to call, email, introduce someone, or provide an answer (especially when you offer a timeline). Show up: Consistency helps people know they can count on you when they need something. Pay attention to the small things: Remember the book they mentioned, make the introduction, or send the recommendation that made you think of them. Help when there’s nothing in it for you: Refer work when you’re not the right fit, answer the question, or check in simply because you care. Take time to reflect: Think about your strongest client relationships and identify the small moments that built trust before there was ever work to discuss.Stay Connected:At stage, we believe business development is relationship development. We help lawyers move beyond transactional outreach and build the kinds of authentic, trusted relationships that make business development more natural and sustainable. If you or your firm are interested, you can reach us at info@stage.guide. Learn more about stageConnect with Megan Senese Connect with Jennifer RamseyLove So Much To Say? Let us know! Drop a review, give us 5 stars in your favorite podcast app, and tell us what made you laugh, think, or just go “yep, that’s me.” Every review helps us reach more awesome humans who want to make legal…well, human.

    Even My Kids Know: Business Development is About Trust (Minis with Megan)
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Welcome to So Much To Say: A Legal Podcast For People where we explore the behind-the-scenes of work, law, life, and everything in between. We’re your hosts, business development and legal marketing coaches Jennifer Ramsey and Megan Senese, and we’re here to showcase the human side of the legal world, from marketing and consulting to the very real challenges of balancing ambitious careers with being human. This isn’t your typical, dry legal show. Instead, So Much To Say is a human-centered leadership, marketing, and culture podcast through the lens of law. We bring you real stories, candid conversations, and thoughtful insights that remind you that outside of being a lawyer or legal marketer, what makes you human matters too. So whether you’re navigating billable hours, building meaningful relationships, redefining success, or simply trying to stay human in a high-performance profession, this podcast is for you. Stay human. Stay inspired. Namaste (or whatever keeps you human).

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